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Archived Appeal: 76561198129192925 - (Bart Simpson / BANNED BY SR)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by HaiTaiTai, Jan 3, 2016.

  1. HaiTaiTai

    HaiTaiTai Banned on SteamRep

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    Appeal for BANNED BY SR

    Steam profile: 76561198129192925 (Bart Simpson)

    Appeal Plea: I committed the offense(s), I admit it
    Appeal Reason: [Process] Severity - Severity of ban is higher than SteamRep policy recommends
    Victim Repayment: Yes, I repaid the victims of my offense(s)
    Previous Appeals: Yes, I appealed here before and it was denied.

    Alternate Accounts:
    | steamname: PuffZ CSGOEgg.com
    | steam3ID: [U:1:131993953]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:65996976
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198092259681
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Delishious
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198092259681

    | steamname: Little Ding Dong
    | steam3ID: [U:1:202511786]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:101255893
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198162777514
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/TheHapChap
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198162777514

    | steamname: Pup4Life
    | steam3ID: [U:1:161357285]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:80678642
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121623013
    | customURL:
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198121623013

    Appeal description:
    Okay, so my previous appeal: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-76561198129192925-haitaitai-banned-by-sr.116703/ was denied with the closing statement being "Ya, no way this appeal can ever be accepted then."

    Before I start, if possible, as I've read in the FAQ, I'm asking if another admin can review this case and make a judgement, and possibly have a one on one interview with me. Thank you.

    I've back back not to try and intentionally bother anybody, but to ask for another review. I admit that I did try to scam somebody a while back, that's factual. However, note that it was an attempt and not an actual scam and no items were stolen. Can we please question the severity of the ban, and if possible, lower it to caution as this was a one-time off attempt and I have definitely learned my lesson and will never commit any more fraudulent activities in the future.​
  2. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    Per our FAQ, you are allowed to have your appeal reviewed by another admin to decide if you deserve a second appeal. To do this, you must choose one of these reasons:
    1. New evidence not produced in your original appeal.
    2. Unfair appeal. Note: A different appeal admin will review your original appeal and decide if their is enough to grant you a new appeal.
    3. Other extenuating circumstance at admins discretion.
    Under which of these grounds do you intend to have your appeal reviewed? And please explain your reasoning for whichever reason you choose.

    Example of new evidence: Reporter was banned for submitting fake reports/screenshots to maliciously harm people's reputation, supporting your claim to innocence.
    Example of unfair appeal: Appeals admin had a conflict of interest, or mishandled your case (e.g. rejected by same admin who accepted report).
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  3. HaiTaiTai

    HaiTaiTai Banned on SteamRep

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    Yes, I would chose option 2:
    Unfair appeal. Note: A different appeal admin will review your original appeal and decide if their is enough to grant you a new appeal.

    I just feel like my ban was a bit 'severe' and my previous appeal was handled harshly as although I did commit a bad action, no items were stolen and morally, I learned my lesson in the end. I'm asking for a second chance in the form of possibly lowering my ban to at least a caution.
  4. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    How is that unfair handling? You disagree with the decision, but as far as I can see the admin followed our procedures. The perspective your tag is undeserved for what you did, or that the admin didn't rule in your favor, or he hurt your feelings, is not grounds for an appeal review. You can't just request an appeal review because you want to get unbanned. Change of heart is for the appeal, not the appeal review. Got anything else?
  5. HaiTaiTai

    HaiTaiTai Banned on SteamRep

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    Please try and maintain your anger, I don't want to upset anybody.

    The moral of all of this is that I've learned from what I've done and I think that I deserve a second chance in the form of being put to 'caution' for a start. That's only fair.
  6. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    I'm not angry, just explaining how the procedure works. Appeal reviews are not appeals, they're a way to demonstrate extenuating circumstances or mishandling of an appeal. You get one chance to show a change of heart, that's it; if you don't accomplish that in your appeal, you're out of luck. Appeal reviews are intended to be a quick 3rd set of eyes checking that procedures were followed, and evaluating your claim to whether you have merit to make a new appeal, that's all, not a new appeal in itself.

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  7. HaiTaiTai

    HaiTaiTai Banned on SteamRep

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    Firstly, I genuinely appreciate your help Lava, it means a lot :)

    I'm a bit confused.

    "You get one chance to show a change of heart, that's it; if you don't accomplish that in your appeal, you're out of luck. Appeal reviews are intended to be a quick 3rd set of eyes checking that procedures were followed, and evaluating your claim to whether you have merit to make a new appeal, that's all, not a new appeal in itself."

    So, 'change of heart' by which you mean having a different perspective in that incident right? If so, then definitely as I explained in my original review. All in all, although I could go on for ages, I now truly understand that scamming is horribly wrong and I, unquestionably, will never try to scam anybody ever again.

    So, you're saying that I didn't accomplish that in my appeal? :( I'm not really sure how else I could show that I was guilty and upset for that attempted scam.
  8. HaiTaiTai

    HaiTaiTai Banned on SteamRep

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    I don't really want to cause any controversy, but why have the option of 'change of heart', which I did but then say "Ya, no way this appeal can ever be accepted then." For what reason? I tried my very best to show that I did indeed have a change of heart for the subject and understand what I did wrong and fixed the issue, but to no avail.
  9. HaiTaiTai

    HaiTaiTai Banned on SteamRep

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    I know you admins have a lot of other stuff to do, but a reply would be nice :c
    I don't really understand the situation either.
  10. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    Due to time this review has been pending w/o followup, it has been granted by default, you may submit a second appeal, please note, this does not mean if you are denied again you get to request another appeal review.