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Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Dragonslayer Ornstein, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Dragonslayer Ornstein

    Dragonslayer Ornstein New User

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    One of the victims:
    |steamID: [XJZ]IndayLancer
    |steamID32: STEAM_0:1:41890332
    |steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044046393
    |customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/IndayLancer
    |steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198044046393

    Scammers:
    |steamID: Nathan Cash
    |steamID32: STEAM_0:1:45077164
    |steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198050420057
    |customURL:
    |steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198050420057
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    |steamID: Mvskoke
    |steamID32: STEAM_0:0:47516614
    |steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055298956
    |customURL:
    |steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198055298956

    Screentshots:
    http://imgur.com/LCl9Bs0
    http://imgur.com/TcB9DAi
    http://imgur.com/wfN1PAR
    http://imgur.com/7FN06Cl

    Description: I was in a trade server and i encountered 2 people by the names of Nathan Cash and Mvskoke. Nathan cash was announcing a raffle and to be eligible for an entry it costed a reclaim metal. Four people entered the raffle Mvskoke, Inigo Montoya, [XJZ]IndayLancer, and Franek_1311_PL. I. There were some people calling out Nathan in being a scammer. His only response on mic was "I'm trying to build a little rep in the community, by doing so i am losing out on this". Meaning that he wasn't breaking even on the reclaim. Mvskoke got a little defensive when people called Nathan out and used his mic to say "It's his item, he can do whatever he wants with it." He started the Raffle and mvskoke, later on finding out to be his close personal friend, won. If you look at my screenshots this isn't the first time he has scammed since there were two raffles he admitted committing in the screenshot to scamming people and Mvskoke being the person that won again. The outcome was me coercing Nathan to give back the metal. He did to Lndaylancer but i'm not sure of the other victims. I was only a bystander in this incident. I also have footage if you want me to post on youtube of the whole incident. Thank you for your time.
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  2. [PHG] IndayLancer

    [PHG] IndayLancer New User

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    Also,the thing is either Mvoske or Nathan Cash will join the raffle,there has been no instance where they we're not included in the raffle. They do this cycle in a random trade server they go to and they use the "trying to build my rep" thing to win the favors of the people in the server.
  3. Nero Chinki

    Nero Chinki New User

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    If you could upload the video you have to Youtube that would be nice.

    Please reply to my message so i get the notification.
  4. Dragonslayer Ornstein

    Dragonslayer Ornstein New User

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    Here is the video i finally posted after trying to record the demo the best i can (sorry for the lag).
  5. Nero Chinki

    Nero Chinki New User

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    Thank you, a SR admin will look into your report when he / she can.

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  6. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    Marking- thanks! :)
  7. Nathan Cash

    Nathan Cash New User

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    First of all, this is utter bullshit. Sorry for the language, I am just fairly mad for getting unfairly reported. I looked closely at all of the evidence, and it looks convincing, however there is nothing that proves I am a scammer. All that happened is I held a raffle for a loss (building honest rep), Mv (a friend of mine who joined raffle to get people participated) happened to win. People started to scream "SCAMMMER!!!!!!!" so I gave people their money back as the reporter showed. He also said he wouldn't report me (I didn't care if he did because I did nothing wrong). If you were at the server there were people (besides MV) who believed me and supported me. I love TF2 and this is the first thing I have been reported for. I have put hundreds of hours into the game and pray that this unfair ban is overturned.
  8. Nathan Cash

    Nathan Cash New User

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    Also. I only ever raffled at that server. I didn't cycle through servers as the accusers said. I don't understand why they would lie like that. It is frustrating.
  9. Nathan Cash

    Nathan Cash New User

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    And if nothing else, unban MV. He is very mad at me and he was just trying to help me out. I feel really bad for him
  10. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    OF COURSE people were screaming scammer because you were taking items from people for a "raffle" that your friend won- more than once. Therefore he would be your accomplice. I'm sure he's mad but his "helping you out" made him an accessory to a scam. Just like if you "helped out" your friend by driving him to escape after he robbed a bank.

    I also think it's pretty telling that your first story is that your friend "just happened" win and then your second story is that "he was just helping me out".
  11. Dragonslayer Ornstein

    Dragonslayer Ornstein New User

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    Refer to the second screenshot "thought you were from the second" referring to a second raffle that you held, where you admitted once again giving back people their items.. A second time. The matter at hand was that i went back to the same server to get whoever you scammed out of their items. The only person at the server that was still there that participated in the raffle was lndaylancer. I did not encounter you there and waited for half an hour to see if i could contact the other participants (which i couldn't), so saying you didn't cycle through other servers is less likely because of the fact that you held a "Second one". How can i take your word for it? I was furious at the fact that you didn't remember any of the participants from the "first raffle" and said that you gave the reclaim back, that you held a second raffle and mvskoke winning again and it seemed that you were trying to swindle your way out of it only because of the fact that i had evidence of the scam. The funny thing is i lied of the fact that i wasn't going to report you because i wanted lndaylancer to get his items back. I did feel for you and doubted myself over and over again if it wasn't a scam but the more i talked to you and the more you told lies, and of other scams, that only led me to believe that you did held a raffle scam. And if you feel strongly about being "unfairly reported" then take it up with one of the admins and or appeal my case, do not come here and spread wild accusations saying i am in the wrong when the evidence is against you.
  12. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    I'm going to archive this report as it has already been closed. Thank you again, OP, for reporting. This is definitely a scam and we've seen these before.
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  13. Nathan Cash

    Nathan Cash New User

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