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Archived Report: 76561198057435695 (Vieto Scaletta™)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by xboxedd, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. xboxedd

    xboxedd New User

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    I have never made a report before but i will try my best.

    Victim:steamID: xboxedd
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:24662329
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198009590386
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/xboxedd
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198009590386
    SOP forum account (if applicable): xboxedd

    Scammer:steamID: Vieto Scaletta™
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:48584983
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198057435695
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/goodtrader
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198057435695
    SOP forum account (if applicable): (not shure what SOP fourm is but i presume it's this fourm and i couldn't find him here)

    Support for most of this story can be found at http://steamcommunity.com/id/xboxedd/inventoryhistory/ I will insert the date and time of each trade so you can find it faster.

    I met Vieto Scaletta™ sometime in mid January when he was starting a group called "The Ownage TF2 Players" http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ownageplayers (which is now closeing) and was looking for admins for a server he wanted to start up for the group. So after a bit of talking with him I paid 2 keys for admin on Jan 22 at 11:09 AM and between an hour and two hours later paid him with a clean meet the medic taunt for rcon commands. Later he asked me to trade my 4 buds for an unusual towering pillar of hats with a circleing tf2 logo. Now I really wanted an unusual towering pillar of hats, mostly because it is a cool hat in general and an all class unusual. Since there were (and still are) many positive comments on his profile page about tradeing with him i didn't bother checking the price untill later. So we traded. For some reason my Inventory history only shows me tradeing the hat back which i will explain later. But as you can see between http://www.tf2items.com/id/xboxedd?time=1328130108 (Wed, 01 Feb 12 15:01:48 -0600) and http://www.tf2items.com/id/xboxedd?time=1328766306 (Wed, 08 Feb 12 23:45:06 -0600) my 4 buds disappear and an unusual towering pillar of hats appears, and as you kan see from the first link all of the keys I had gained from my trade on Jan 27th had allready been used before I traded my buds for the unusual. Continueing with the story, Vieto later offered me to become an owner of the server in exchange for my unusual towering pillar of hats. I eventually agreed and gave him my unusual. He then didn't go online for arround 2 weeks. The only thing that kept me from thinking this was all a scam was that his backpack had more items in it than it ever had. So after 2 weeks he came back and told me he lost his account and got it back. While he was gone i had looked up the price for the unusual and realized that he scamed me. So when I told him I changed my mind about being an owner and offered me one of his other unusuals (which individually wouldn't be worth the same as my unusual) i demanded my unusual towering pillar of hats back. And in that chat (which I will attach a screenshot of) he unwillingly admits that he scamed someone by saying he sold the sold my unusual towering pillar of hats for a better deal (which would have to be more than 4 buds) while also claiming that the unusual towering pillar of hats worth only 1 (which is really worth more than 2. Just look for it on the tf2 tradeing post or at http://www.tf2unusualhats.com/). In the second that I will attatch (the one where he is in the game Poker Night at the Inventory) I say that i am willing to let it all go for 2 buds (i was planing on blocking him after that) but instead he opens a trade window and offers me 1 bud. So of course i reject it and show him multable sources and trades that show that the unusual towering pillar of hats with circleing tf2 logo is worth more than 2 buds. He then sets his status to "Away" and doesn't talk to me untill yesterday. Yesterday I get tired of 3 months of dealing with this guy and say I will take one bud (to try to cut my losses), but instead he says he will instead offer me an Unusual Trophy Belt With the circleing tf2 logo. I looked it up, worth 1 bud. I asked him why not a bud, and he said they were all low levels (which you can tell by looking at his backpack http://www.tf2items.com/id/goodtrader is BS since he has a lvl 77 bud). I said I didn't care, he said he cared. I said that if lower levels mattered at all, low levels would make the buds worth less. He replied saying that he liked low levels. So yesterday I just accepted the unusual trophy belt, said F*** You, and blocked him. I sold the Unusual trophy belt with the circleing tf2 logo while writeing this for 1 bud. In total I lost 3 buds (and 2 keys and a meet the medic taunt if you include the admin/server stuff).

    I only have the transcript for the second chat. I can make one for the first but it will take a long time.

    Code:
    Wednesday, March 28, 2012
    11:03 AM - xboxedd: hey
    11:03 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: SAup?
    11:03 AM - xboxedd: Nothing much.
    11:04 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: What u want
    11:04 AM - xboxedd: I got your skype message. Did you mean that you have the unusual towering pillar of hats or that you simply have an unusual.
    11:04 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: I have 1 bud
    11:04 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: The pillar
    11:05 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: Worth one bud
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    11:12 AM - xboxedd: I have quite a few sources that say it is worth more than double that.
    11:12 AM - xboxedd: http://www.tf2unusualhats.com/
    11:12 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6326711
    11:13 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6320839
    11:13 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6317888
    11:13 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6316222
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now Offline.
    Your state is set to Offline.
    Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
    Connected again and rejoined chat.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now Online.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now Away.
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now Online.
    11:27 AM - xboxedd: well?
    Vieto Scaletta™ has accepted your request to trade.
    11:30 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: Dont take it then
    11:30 AM - xboxedd: I just want my stuff back.
    11:31 AM - xboxedd: I would accept 2 buds since i am well on my way to a third.
    11:32 AM - xboxedd: I don't see what the problem is. Your still makeing a 2 bud profit from the 4 i gave you.
    11:42 AM - xboxedd: Don't ignore me :(
    11:42 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: Im busy
    11:45 AM - xboxedd: All i am asking is for 2 buds, and as you can see from the links i sent you it is worth more than that.
    11:45 AM - Vieto Scaletta™: Show me again
    11:46 AM - xboxedd: 11:12 AM - xboxedd: http://www.tf2unusualhats.com/
    11:12 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6326711
    11:13 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6320839
    11:13 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6317888
    11:13 AM - xboxedd: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=6316222
    Vieto Scaletta™ is now Away.[ /code]

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  2. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    After reviewing this case thoroughly and doing some research on the person reported, it seems like this was more of a personal misunderstanding than an actual intentional scam. Due to this being an ongoing issue since January and the person in question having servers, it seems unlikely that he intentionally set out to scam you (although anything is possible). I will archive this report, however, and make a note of it. If you would like to see if you could get your items back, you may want to contact a moderator to discuss this with both of you and come to an arrangement. I would be willing to help with this, or you could ask any community moderator of your favorite community that you trust. If a solid agreement is made between the two of you through the moderator, and he does not live up to this agreement, then we would be able to mark him for failing to uphold his end of a trade agreement.

    Best wishes to you and let me know if I can be of further assistance. :) I apologize for the length of time it took for my reply, but this was not a "cut and dry" case, as I'm sure you can appreciate. :)