Pending Report: 76561198117327977 - (Jerk On Fire / [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] Steam Wallet fraud
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198117327977 (Jerk On Fire)

Victim profile: 76561198090522867

What happened? Description:

I got a unusual (Desert Maurauder, Effect Miami Nights) from an uncrate a few days ago. "Jerk On Fire" asked me if I was willing to sell it for money, which I replied yes I was. We negotiated and agreed that he would give me USD100 and two items (Chieftains Challenge, Medi Mask) for the Unusual. To which I agreed. He then claimed that he had be scammed before so if it was OK that we trade for the items first and then he will send me the money. To which I also agreed. We then traded for the items. And then he claimed that he didn't know how to give me the money and needed some time to find out how. At first I was reluctant, but then eventually gave him more and more time, extending to one whole day. The next day (25 December 2013) he said that he was scamming me. To which I replied that I was going to report him. Also, he then said that he had sold my item to whom I don't know.​

Provide Evidence:

Below is the whole convesation starting from when he first started messaging me. Screenshots below that. I apologise for my profanity at the end of our conversation.

" mathmacgeoch: hi
mathmacgeoch: did you want to trade for something?
Jerk On Fire: hey
Jerk On Fire: i would like tobuy your marauder , do you sell it ?
mathmacgeoch: i am, what is your offer?
Jerk On Fire: im looking for money ?
mathmacgeoch: sure, as long as steam credits
Jerk On Fire: steam wallet or paypal , what you prefer ?
mathmacgeoch: steam wallet
Jerk On Fire: k
Jerk On Fire: and how much you looking for ?
mathmacgeoch: around USD120
Jerk On Fire: bit much for me
mathmacgeoch: how much are you willing to pay?
Jerk On Fire: what about 95?
mathmacgeoch: 100+items?
Jerk On Fire: ok , but i have sold all my bp , i have only 2 hat left
mathmacgeoch: well i'm sure your black rose also is worth quite a bit
Jerk On Fire: yes , but i dont have a gift
Jerk On Fire: wrap*
mathmacgeoch: oh right
Jerk On Fire: you have a wrap ?
mathmacgeoch: no, but I could probably get one
Jerk On Fire: yes of cource
mathmacgeoch: apart from the cheiftains challenge, what other hat do you have?
Jerk On Fire: medi-mask
mathmacgeoch: ah
Jerk On Fire: you are interested ? 95 + the 2hat + black rose ?
mathmacgeoch: how would you get the gift wrap? or would i get it?
mathmacgeoch: yes i would be interested
Jerk On Fire: can you get one ?
mathmacgeoch: ok, but you would have to wait a day or 2
mathmacgeoch: if thats ok
Jerk On Fire: ah , why ?
mathmacgeoch: simply cos i would have to trade for it
mathmacgeoch: and also i live in hong kong (china) so i'm gonna sleep soon
mathmacgeoch: probably can be done by 2mrw
Jerk On Fire: we can make the trade now if you want
mathmacgeoch: alright
mathmacgeoch: btw, is it possible to make the 95, 100?
Jerk On Fire: hmm :s
Jerk On Fire: ok but without the hat ?
mathmacgeoch: without which hat?
Jerk On Fire: chief and medi mask
Jerk On Fire: or 100 without the rose ?
mathmacgeoch: 100 without the rose
Jerk On Fire: ok
Jerk On Fire: so , we can do my 2 hat for your in first time , and the money come after ? cuz i was scammed time
mathmacgeoch: erm
mathmacgeoch: well
mathmacgeoch: how do i know that you won't scam me?
Jerk On Fire: you can see , i juste sold my bp that why i have money and that why i dont have a lot of item
mathmacgeoch: oh ok
mathmacgeoch: then why do you want the unusual?
Jerk On Fire: i realy love this hat and i want to stop trade with your hat
mathmacgeoch: ok then
mathmacgeoch: but otherwise i'm reporting you
You have accepted the trade request from Jerk On Fire.
Jerk On Fire: how to report a guy ?
Jerk On Fire: cuz i can report the guy scam me
mathmacgeoch: idk if it always works, but you can write a email to valve/tf2 explaining, and sometimes they will give it back to you
mathmacgeoch: depending on the situation
Jerk On Fire has accepted your request to trade.
mathmacgeoch: ok
Jerk On Fire: thanks
mathmacgeoch: how do i receive the money?
Jerk On Fire: in steam wallet or paypal , i forget ?
mathmacgeoch: steam wallet
Jerk On Fire: hmm steam wallet , i have the money on paypal i have to put this in steam
Jerk On Fire: a min
mathmacgeoch: ok
mathmacgeoch: got it?
Jerk On Fire: wait , i dont know how to transfer ^^
mathmacgeoch: ...
mathmacgeoch: http://store.steampowered.com/steamaccount/
mathmacgeoch: go here
mathmacgeoch: add credits to your account
mathmacgeoch: mate, i just looked it up, and you can't transfer money between accounts
Jerk On Fire: i know this , but i have money in paypal and some guy say me you can transfer to paypal to steam
Jerk On Fire: i have buy a game with paypal money
mathmacgeoch: look, you can't give other players money on steam
Jerk On Fire: yes , with steam wallet
mathmacgeoch: how?
Jerk On Fire: i search
mathmacgeoch: the only way i know is I put an item on the steam market for USD100 and then you buy it
mathmacgeoch: btw to add paypal, you don't transfer
mathmacgeoch: you just go to the site
mathmacgeoch: and press add funds
mathmacgeoch: and put in your paypal details
mathmacgeoch: and then you have the money in your steam wallet
Jerk On Fire: i try
mathmacgeoch: but how are you going to give me the money?
Jerk On Fire: with the steam wallet ?
mathmacgeoch: yea
Jerk On Fire: is a code
mathmacgeoch: but you can only the get the code from cards bought in stores
Jerk On Fire: nope in mail too i think
mathmacgeoch: i promise to still trade it to you, but could i have it back, and then when you sort this all out i will trade it back to you
mathmacgeoch: i will give you back the hats
mathmacgeoch: alright?
Jerk On Fire: you want the hat back ?
mathmacgeoch: yea
mathmacgeoch: until you get the money on your steam wallet/get the code
Jerk On Fire: ah ok :s
mathmacgeoch: sorry
mathmacgeoch: i promise not to trade it away
Jerk On Fire: i understand
mathmacgeoch: sorry
mathmacgeoch: just that i'm worried you might be a scammer
mathmacgeoch: i know your probably not but still
Jerk On Fire: you want now ?
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
mathmacgeoch: yes please
mathmacgeoch: because i need to sleep now too
Jerk On Fire: please let me time to search
mathmacgeoch: i promise i will still trade with you
Jerk On Fire: if i was a scammer i delet you
mathmacgeoch: just not now
mathmacgeoch: please
Jerk On Fire: juste give me time please
mathmacgeoch: i'm going to give you time, just give me the item for now, and i'll give you the hats back
mathmacgeoch: and then you have till saturday to sort it out
mathmacgeoch: ok?
mathmacgeoch: sorry for being this mean
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
mathmacgeoch: but i don't want to have my first and only unusual taken away without payment for that long
mathmacgeoch: so please will you just trade it back
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
Jerk On Fire: plsman wait ,, this hat is my dream , you can sleep , if i was a scammer i delet you
mathmacgeoch: and i promise to trade it back
mathmacgeoch: just after you have the money sorted out
mathmacgeoch: I promise that i will trade it back
mathmacgeoch: promisee
Jerk On Fire: but here we done , i juste need to be little search and you have the money
mathmacgeoch: ok
Jerk On Fire: if i dont find , i give the hat back
mathmacgeoch: ok
mathmacgeoch: 3 mins
Jerk On Fire: :O
mathmacgeoch: i need to sleep
mathmacgeoch: seriously
Jerk On Fire: you can sleep
mathmacgeoch: when i go to sleep, the unusual is going to be in my backpack
mathmacgeoch: you have 3 mins to search for it
mathmacgeoch: i'm already being very kind that i'm willing to sell for 100 dollars instead of 120
mathmacgeoch: can i have the hat back now please
Jerk On Fire: i search wait
mathmacgeoch: i've given you 7 mins now
mathmacgeoch: now
Jerk On Fire has declined your trade request.
mathmacgeoch: seriously
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
mathmacgeoch: Can you Please now return me the unusual
mathmacgeoch: I will return you the hats
mathmacgeoch: and then when you have the money
Jerk On Fire is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
mathmacgeoch: i will trade it with you
mathmacgeoch: hello?
Jerk On Fire: wait please dude i dont scam you here*
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
mathmacgeoch: then what is the problem with me holding it for a night?
mathmacgeoch: hello?
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
The trade request was cancelled.
mathmacgeoch: if your searching how to give me the money, then why you playing tf2?
Jerk On Fire: i dont play i juste see the hat
Jerk On Fire: is amazing
mathmacgeoch: i know
mathmacgeoch: now please trade me back the hat
mathmacgeoch: i will trade it back to you once you have the mone
Jerk On Fire: but why ? im not a scammer pls
mathmacgeoch: money
mathmacgeoch: see the problem is, i don't know that for sure
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
mathmacgeoch: i promise i will hold onto it untill you have the money
mathmacgeoch: but until then
mathmacgeoch: can you please trade it back
mathmacgeoch: otherwise i'm going to report you
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
Jerk On Fire: dont report me , i juste search
mathmacgeoch: NOW
Jerk On Fire: pls im not a scammerr
mathmacgeoch: no
mathmacgeoch: i'm going to report you
Jerk On Fire: + you dont have any proof i have scam you now coz im not a scammer
mathmacgeoch: what is the problem with me holding it for 1 night?
mathmacgeoch: i do have proof, we agreed on a price, i gave you the item
mathmacgeoch: and you DID NOT give me your share
mathmacgeoch: you better give it back now
mathmacgeoch: otherwise i'm reporting you
mathmacgeoch: 5
mathmacgeoch: 4
mathmacgeoch: 3
mathmacgeoch: 2
mathmacgeoch: 1
Jerk On Fire: and what you say in your report ? coz i dont scam you
mathmacgeoch: could you just give it back now
mathmacgeoch: and stop worrying about what to write in your report
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
Jerk On Fire: dont report me please im not a scammer , juste wait a little , is juste a hat
mathmacgeoch: i need to sleep now, and i'm not going to sleep with my item not in my backpack
mathmacgeoch: so please give me back the item
mathmacgeoch: NOW
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
mathmacgeoch: if you give it back now, i will guarentee that once you have the money, i will trade it back
mathmacgeoch: but so far, you are showing all the signs of a scammer
Jerk On Fire: im not , a scammer delet you
mathmacgeoch: not always
mathmacgeoch: anywyas
mathmacgeoch: give it back now
mathmacgeoch: otherwise i'm reporting you
mathmacgeoch: its been 1 and a half hours since we started discussing this
mathmacgeoch: 1.5 hours is a lot more than "a little bit of time"
mathmacgeoch: so could you please give it back NOW
Jerk On Fire: then stop spam
mathmacgeoch: then give it back
mathmacgeoch: i'll stop once you give it back
mathmacgeoch: because so far, i'm pretty mad that someone has run off with pretty valuable unusual
mathmacgeoch: i'm going to report you now
mathmacgeoch: you have excactly 1 min to send me a trade request and give it back, until i report you
Jerk On Fire: dont report me !!!!!! im not a scammer!
mathmacgeoch: then give it back
Jerk On Fire did not respond to the trade request.
Jerk On Fire: no ,you wait
mathmacgeoch: no, i can't wait
mathmacgeoch: i need to go
mathmacgeoch: i'm not going to go, leaving it in your hand
mathmacgeoch: s
mathmacgeoch: 30 seconds
mathmacgeoch: i have waited for 1 and a half hours now
Jerk On Fire: but stop spam , i search on youtube and google , i can ask steam too
Jerk On Fire: you juste have to wait
mathmacgeoch: i have waited for so long
mathmacgeoch: give it back
Jerk On Fire: no ,wait
mathmacgeoch: 1 min left
mathmacgeoch: after 1 min, i going to start reporting you on all the sites
mathmacgeoch: -rep on your wall already
mathmacgeoch: next, tf2 outpost and backpack.tf
Jerk On Fire: pffff
mathmacgeoch: i will delete it once you give it back
mathmacgeoch: and finally, reporting to valve
Jerk On Fire: pffff ok then if you report me i dont pay
mathmacgeoch: and then you become a scammer
mathmacgeoch: give me back the item and i will remove the report
Jerk On Fire: coz you report me and im not
mathmacgeoch: when you don't pay, you become a scammer
Jerk On Fire: if you report me , why i pay --'
mathmacgeoch: i won't report you, on one condition
mathmacgeoch: you give it back now, and wait till 2mrw till i give it to you
Jerk On Fire: you can sleep without your hat ...
mathmacgeoch: fine
mathmacgeoch: but if it isn't done by 2mrw
mathmacgeoch: then you give it back
mathmacgeoch: alright?
Jerk On Fire: yes ok
mathmacgeoch: may i ask which country you live in so i can tell what time it is where you are?
Jerk On Fire: 16:30
mathmacgeoch: ok
mathmacgeoch: thanks
mathmacgeoch: do you have it now?
Jerk On Fire is now Offline.
Your state is set to Offline.
Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
Connected again and rejoined chat.
Jerk On Fire is now Online.
mathmacgeoch: hey
mathmacgeoch: do you have the money?
mathmacgeoch: do you even still have the hat
mathmacgeoch: cos i saw you try to sell it on tf2outpost
mathmacgeoch: helllo?
Jerk On Fire is now Online.
mathmacgeoch: hello
mathmacgeoch: you there?
Jerk On Fire is now Online.
mathmacgeoch: hey
Jerk On Fire: hey
mathmacgeoch: do you have the money now?
Jerk On Fire: no
mathmacgeoch: when will you get it?
Jerk On Fire: i dont know
mathmacgeoch: well can you please make your backpack public
mathmacgeoch: because i saw your trade offer on tf2 outpost for the hat
mathmacgeoch: and it's also marked as closed
Jerk On Fire is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
mathmacgeoch: i see that your on a trade server
mathmacgeoch: can you please give it back now
mathmacgeoch: i will give you back your items
Jerk On Fire is now Online.
mathmacgeoch: hey
Jerk On Fire: yes
mathmacgeoch: could you make your backpack public
mathmacgeoch: please
Jerk On Fire: no
Jerk On Fire: i have sold your hat
mathmacgeoch: then could i have the money?
mathmacgeoch: hallo?
Jerk On Fire: no
mathmacgeoch: why
Jerk On Fire: i scam you sorry
mathmacgeoch: f*** you
Jerk On Fire: <3
mathmacgeoch: i'm reporting you

Jerk On Fire: np "​