Evidence Provided 76561198028723977 - (Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. / [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198028723977 (Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.)

Victim profile: 76561198036300247

What happened? Description:

The user has agreed to send the money for my TF2 Earbuds, I never got it, even now after about 45 minutes. I keep screenshotting all the chats. And he has even reported me for scamming him, and clearly my paypal is showing I have yet to recieve my payment. After I asked him to please screenshare that he actually sent it he declined. I asked for proof, I would have cleared this had he been able to prove that it sent. I told him not to use chrome because you can edit everything on there aswell. I told him If I do not get my buds back or the money promised I will have to take action.​

Provide Evidence:

CHAT HERE:
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: hey
The Boss: Hey
The Boss: Do you buy Buds?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i do
The Boss: How much
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i would like to pay 30 but counter offer
The Boss: Well
The Boss: I may have mistaken
The Boss: I thought I saw you bought for $40
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16811924
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but i can go somewhere in between
The Boss: In between 30-40?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: so like 35?
The Boss: I have two buds
The Boss: Would you bay 75 for both?
The Boss: pay*
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i can do 70
The Boss: I have a
The Boss: Unusual
The Boss: Aswell
The Boss: I can throw in
You cannot trade with Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. because they are currently trading with someone else.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: what one?
The Boss: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/440/2/2297093683/?l=english&o=76561198036300247

The Boss: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/440/2/2297093683/?l=english&o=76561198036300247

The Boss: Can you see it>?
You cannot trade with Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. because they are currently trading with someone else.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah
The Boss: Says you're trading someone else
The Boss: That one
The Boss: So how much more?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. has accepted your request to trade.
The Boss: That
The Boss: How much for bud+bud+unusual
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: would rather do 70 for both buds
The Boss: Can you do 73?
The Boss: I'll accept
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok
The Boss: Do you have Rep thread?
The Boss: And paypal, you're sending as gift, correct?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah
The Boss: Ok
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ill get my rep thread
The Boss: Ok
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198028723977
The Boss: No Fourm?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its supposed to be here http://forums.steamrep.com/search/search/?keywords=76561198028723977&o=date
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but its saying no results
The Boss: Yah
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i mean i have the rep on my profile but i dont think you will take that
The Boss: I'm a bit weary
The Boss: I mean
The Boss: I dont have any fourm rep
The Boss: I only have rep on my thread
The Boss: Do you think I should find a middleman from rep?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i guess its up to you
The Boss: $73, correct?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yes
The Boss: Some middlemen are scammers hold on
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ight
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: although how do i know you just wont say you didnt get the money?
The Boss: No
The Boss: Im not saying I'm going first
The Boss: I want you to feel comfortable too
The Boss: I understand where you're comming from
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: havent really done much using middleman bc i norm have my thread
The Boss: I mean you have more rep on your page than I do too
The Boss: Can I create a + Rep thread after this?
The Boss: I'm not going to say I didn't recieve the money
The Boss: I'll say in this caht
The Boss: I'm offering to give you buds
The Boss: For $73
The Boss: And I agree to give you buds
The Boss: That's proof to get me banned
The Boss: Take pictures
The Boss: I'm giving Elitel Mr Sauce Boss. buds(2) for $73 USD via paypal. He is using the gift feature on paypal.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: eh idk
The Boss: Arr..
The Boss: Dude, that right there is enough to get me banned...
The Boss: If I dont give them up
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i would rather have the money then you banned tho
The Boss: That's true
The Boss: I mean, I'm not gonna scam you.
The Boss: I'm trying to find a middleman on +STEAMREP that's online now
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i hope not but ive been scammed before
The Boss: I wont scam you :/
The Boss: After this, please give me + Rep on an actual thread
The Boss: I'm really not here to scam you dude
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. has ended the call.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ?
The Boss: Sorry
The Boss: Lol
The Boss: But, please trust me mate.
The Boss: I'm not going to scam you.
The Boss: Here
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: do you have a rep thread?
The Boss: I agree to give Elitel Mr Sauce Boss. buds(2) for $73 USD via paypal. He is using the gift feature on paypal.
The Boss: And that's the thing :/
The Boss: You have more rep than me
The Boss: I want to get myself a rep thread
The Boss: I just have rep on my profile
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i mean i have 10 pages of that
The Boss: Yeah
The Boss: I mean
The Boss: I'll give ya the buds
The Boss: Now
The Boss: Elitel
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. has accepted your request to trade.
The Boss: Can you say you agree to give me $73 via paypal for TF2 Earbuds(2)
The Boss: And you agree to send the money via gift method on paypal
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: I will pay via paypal $73 to "The Boss"
The Boss: For what item
The Boss: For what item(s)
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: 2 buds
The Boss: Can you say that all in one sentence please?
The Boss: I'm sorry I'm doing all this :/
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah sure can e to sayou type it so i know exactly what you want me to say?
The Boss: I Elitel Mr. Sauce Boss agrees to give The Boss $75 via paypal (gift/friends method) for TF2 Earbuds(2).
The Boss: Oops
The Boss: Change $75 to $73
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: I Elitel Mr. Sauce Boss agrees to give The Boss $73 via paypal (gift/friends method) for TF2 Earbuds(2).
The Boss: Alright
The Boss: Ready?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah
The Boss: Are you even on paypal?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah
The Boss: Alright..
The Boss: So..
The Boss: Arent you going to ask me for my email..? Dude, you're starting to worry me :/
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah thats what i was typing
The Boss: ....
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: also ur rep thread
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its fine if you dont want to do this
The Boss: I do
The Boss: But
The Boss: Here
The Boss: I accepted
The Boss: Hello?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok i still need email
The Boss: [email protected]
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: im not magic
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ah ty
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: im sending
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: sent
The Boss: I did not get an email...
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: give it a few mins
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i got an email just now
The Boss: Copy paste please
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: kk
The Boss: Dude.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: You sent a paymentTransaction ID: 7TH92504CT852314V
Dear Finn Lundy,
You sent a payment for $73.00 USD to [email protected]
Please note that it may take a little while for this payment to appear in the Recent Activity list on your Account Overview.
View the details of this transaction online


Your monthly account statement is available anytime; just log in to your account athttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_history. To correct any errors, please contact us through our Help Center athttps://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_contact_us.
Amount:$73.00 USD
Sent on:January 21, 2014
Message in your payment email:This transaction is for TF2 virtual buds (2) and all trades are final. There will be no chargebacks under any circumstances. Steam ID: 76561198028723977
Sincerely,
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The Boss: Why is it not comming through :/
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: did you get the money?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: u live in the us right?
The Boss: Yes..
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: then wtf
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its supposed to be instant
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: bc im using my card
The Boss: It's not comming through dude..
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: are you joking...?
The Boss: NO.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i mean i got charged on my chase account
The Boss: Yeah, but I did not get the money
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: u gave me the right email?
The Boss: [email protected]
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: thats the one i used
The Boss: Dude
The Boss: Did you really scam me?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: no if i did why would i be talking to you
The Boss: Because you can still scam and still talk to me, that email couldve been sent before, and just edited.. :/
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i guess but ive done this before why would i risk scamming?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i still make money just buying and selling
The Boss: It's not comming through..
The Boss: Can I get my buds back?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: wait how do i know your not scamming me/?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. did not respond to the trade request.
The Boss: Because I have the proof in my email that nothing is comming through
The Boss: And I've recorded this whole thing
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: show me
The Boss: And myself refreshing my email and paypal
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: as have I
The Boss: Show me your recording
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: hey
The Boss is now Online.
The Boss: Hey
The Boss: Do you buy Buds?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i do
The Boss: How much
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i would like to pay 30 but counter offer
The Boss: Well
The Boss: I may have mistaken
The Boss: I thought I saw you bought for $40
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16811924
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but i can go somewhere in between
The Boss: In between 30-40?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: so like 35?
The Boss: I have two buds
The Boss: Would you bay 75 for both?
The Boss: pay*
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i can do 70
The Boss: I have a
The Boss: Unusual
The Boss: Aswell
The Boss: I can throw in
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: what one?
The Boss: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/440/2/2297093683/?l=english&o=76561198036300247

The Boss: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/440/2/2297093683/?l=english&o=76561198036300247

The Boss: Can you see it>?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah
The Boss: Says you're trading someone else
The Boss: That one
The Boss: So how much more?
You have accepted the trade request from The Boss.
The Boss: That
The Boss: How much for bud+bud+unusual
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: would rather do 70 for both buds
The Boss: Can you do 73?
The Boss: I'll accept
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok
The Boss: Do you have Rep thread?
The Boss: And paypal, you're sending as gift, correct?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah
The Boss: Ok
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ill get my rep thread
The Boss: Ok
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198028723977
The Boss: No Fourm?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its supposed to be here http://forums.steamrep.com/search/search/?keywords=76561198028723977&o=date
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but its saying no results
The Boss: Yah
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i mean i have the rep on my profile but i dont think you will take that
The Boss: I'm a bit weary
The Boss: I mean
The Boss: I dont have any fourm rep
The Boss: I only have rep on my thread
The Boss: Do you th
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: all of chat
The Boss: Not it's not
The Boss: I have all of the chat
The Boss: And I took screenshots
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i have screenshots of paypal
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: and email
The Boss: Show me
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: and chase
The Boss: Show me
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: how do i censer screenshots
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its got bank account #s
The Boss: Just black out parts
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: and personal email
The Boss: Print screen
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: how?
The Boss: And go to paint
The Boss: Then cover it
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: im using the chrome app
The Boss: And dont use chrome
The Boss: No
The Boss: Use mozilla
The Boss: You cant change page source
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i have to download mozilla
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: gemmie a sec
The Boss: You have internet explorer?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: no i only use chrome
The Boss: Just send the money, It hasnt come through yet
The Boss: You can even give me 70 instead
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but ive already sent it
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i dont wanna lose another 70
The Boss: Do you have a skype?
The Boss: And it's not comming through, did you confirm it?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: yeah my bank account was charged 73.00
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: and the email i got
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok apperently sometimes it takes longer so if its not there by tomorrow ill chargeback and give you the items back'
The Boss: No
The Boss: Chargeback now
The Boss: And give the items back
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but u wanted me to say it was for tf2 items
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. did not respond to the trade request.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: Message in your payment email:This transaction is for TF2 virtual buds (2) and all trades are final. There will be no chargebacks under any circumstances. Steam ID: 76561198028723977
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ppl always want that
The Boss: Yeah, but I didn't get my item
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: send me screenshots then
The Boss: Of me not recieving the money
The Boss: ?
The Boss: Okay​

First there is no reason he would need my Skype. Second you can edit screenshots with Firefox so really you have no case plus you have not sent proof of anything besides saying scammer over and over. I have also looked into your profile and I see there have been many reports about you whereas i have been with steam and done many Paypal trades without and problems. I did love how he said I took too long responding to his request for my personal Skype. I guess he just gives his Skype to anybody but unlike him I don't add people from steam to Skype. I am sorry I don't like giving all my personal info out.

CHAT CONTINUED:
The Boss: Of me not recieving the money
The Boss: ?
The Boss: Okay
The Boss: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/tf2-item-scam.54401/
The Boss: There's the proof
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: mmk thats not really proof but suit yourself
The Boss: The thread shows our whole chat and It shows that you agreed to give me money, and It shows that I havent recieved anything, It shows the dates, It shows my buds in your inventory, It shows my buds out of my inventory, It shows that you did infact scam me, so unless I get my two buds back or the money you agreed to give me, steam will be banning you and the items will have to be forced to me
The Boss: I'll even show them that you removed me after all this too If you do
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: you sir have pending reports
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: and a banned friend
The Boss: You too
The Boss: Have a banned friend
The Boss: And the pending report is from a frame
The Boss: Which I showed proof that It wasn't me, therefore It will be cleared.
The Boss: I spoke to steamrep
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ah they always are
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: Good good
The Boss: I can show you the thread
The Boss: to that
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: plz do
The Boss: I always have my proof, that way if I get framed I can back it up, and if I get scammed, I can back that up too.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: oh can you give me a link so i can give a friendly report of you?
The Boss: If I recieve the money, or If I recieve my items back from you, not from steam It will be cleared
The Boss: What friendly report of me, nothing friendly, you scammed me.
The Boss: I'm not gonna be + Rep for something I did not get
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i did not but as you wish sir
The Boss: Why have I not recieved my money yet then?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: if you do not recieve the money by tomorrow i will return the items
The Boss: You'll block me or remove me by then?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: no
The Boss: Why must we wait till tomorrow?
The Boss: It's been about 20-30 minutes
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i will have to call paypal
The Boss: Call them, right now.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: in order to reverse payment
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: https://manager.paypal.com/jsp/common/contactUs.jsp
The Boss: Give me my items back
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i have also sent an email to them
The Boss: If I get the payment I'll give them back to you, If not, you can refund.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: no i cant
The Boss: As you can see, I never intended to scam you.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: there is no refund bc i added note like you wanted
The Boss: Create a skype
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok?
The Boss: All this is being doc'ed btw
The Boss: And your inventory is being tracked
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok?
The Boss: Make a skype
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i have one
The Boss: What is it
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: why do you want it?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: this is kinda creepy
The Boss: I'd like for you to screenshare
The Boss: No need to voicchat with me or anything
The Boss: It's creepy that you might be getting banned from steam altogether
The Boss: If you're legit, show me you actually sent the money, this wont be a problem
The Boss: You dont have to show me your bank statement either, just show the paypal, like I did showing what was sent out.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i have sent you the email that i got
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: ok
The Boss: So
The Boss: What is your skype.
The Boss: This isn't looking good on your part bro
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: well i have looked into you as a trader and i have seen some sketchy things
The Boss: The time inbetween messaging is being DOC'ed aswell
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: first the pending scam report not stating an item was gifted on a trade and more
The Boss: Dont try to shift the pulse from you to me.
The Boss: This is a trade between us, obviously I'm not scamming you.
The Boss: Why cant you just show me the proof?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i have
The Boss: Show me
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: and i am working on screenshots
The Boss: On skype
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i sent you the email i got
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i will not add a random person on skype
The Boss: And dont use google chrome like I said
The Boss: Pages can be edited
The Boss: And that will be taken note of too
The Boss: I know what has been edited and what hasnt.
The Boss: And so will the admins
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: i only use chrome
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: because its better
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: idk whats wrong with that
The Boss: Because you can edit
The Boss: Everything on it
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: im sure you can with mozilla as well
The Boss: Nope
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its not hard to do things like that
The Boss: Listen, I have this part of the chat down too. You refuse to show more proof lol.
The Boss: If you did send it, It wouldn't be so hard.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightshot/
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: this is just one example
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: but as you said you can only edit on chrome
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: so basically you just lied to me
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: this will be noter
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: noted
The Boss: Funny that you know that this addon is on mozilla. And it's not really a "lie". It's more of a what is in my knowledge
The Boss: So go ahead, note it.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: its not
The Boss: It will make you look worse
The Boss: Please note it
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: https://www.google.com/search?q=can...j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
The Boss: I'm noting everything
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: here is chrome link
The Boss: What's taking you so long to proove everything?
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: what do you mean
The Boss: That you sent it
The Boss: I still have no email lol
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: you have 8 reports it seems
The Boss: Yeah, from YOU reporting me
The Boss: I'm docing this aswell
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: well the 7 other are from other people
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: doesnt seem like you are a trustable guy
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: well peace for tonight ill see you tomorrow and again if the money hasnt come through like you said ill try a chargeback
The Boss: You'll be blocking me by then like I said
The Boss: I have this whole chat doc'ed
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: as have I
The Boss: Yeah, make sure it's not edited either.
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss.: as pure as could be
Elite| Mr. Sauce Boss. is now Online.

Regarding the skype issue.
I was scammed by this user. If you're such a legitimate trader you would have added me to prove to me and everyone here that you sent me the Paypal funds, if you can't simply record you screensharing me that you've sent it to me infront of everyone proving your innocence then there is something wrong.
I asked you to do skype as you can edit pictures BUT on skype it's a live screenchat so refreshing the page would show your little scam, this is why I asked and the only reason. If you can't do that then, is that not proof enough as to how someone who claims to do so many deals and always has been legit can't prove it.

Oops I accidentally blocked the paypal stuff.., I'm not trying to hide anything to look fishy, you can see the dates of the money recieved. It is now like an hour or so after the trade and I have not gotten my payment. Or the buds back if he wants to scam me..

Hello, please give a screenshot of all your paypal activity, also give a screenshot of your trading history.

He must have deleted his profile, because when I try to go to it, It says this user has not yet set up their profile.., but here's the proof..

Give a screenshot of your entire paypal history.

What do you mean all of it? Just dont block out the names and everything? If so, I can do that for you.

Just give a screenshot of all your activity history.

Like this or without? Because that is all of it

Ohkay, there ya go.

Please note paypal account is unverified

And my profile has always been public so once again please not how he is lying

He is also still on my friend's list and I have not blocked him so its funny how he thinks my profile is private

Verified or not... you can still recieve money, I recieved it before, doing a deal and without getting scammed -_-

And I have never scammed anyone. ..

Do not give recent activity, give a screenshot of all your Paypal activity.

Ohhh here you go, sorry about that.

That would work!
An SR admin will review this in a while!