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Declined Report: 76561198959672589 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by MoltioN, Jul 17, 2022.

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  1. MoltioN

    MoltioN New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Rep Fraud] Impersonation with intent to defraud
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198959672589

    Victim profile: 76561198092747292

    What happened? Description:
    I tried to add the real man by writing in the command section and then the he added me.
    I was about to ask about specific item for sell to hear his opinion.
    I have nothing else to write here....​

    Provide Evidence:
    Down there​

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  2. MoltioN

    MoltioN New User

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    I think its more then enough

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  3. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Not at all enough.. your description lacks so bad I have no idea what is going on. People want to read the situation not browse photos to try and figure it out.
    Write up a better description on next reply then I'll ask for additional screenshots that are missing.
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    MoltioN New User

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    I add the original guy to ask him about an item, Strange Killstreak Rocket Launcher with Halloween Spell: Exorcism, Strange Part: Soldiers Killed and Festivized. So I wrote in his commands "added for a trade"
    Then out of nowhere this guy ( in the photos added me and started talking like he is the real guy).
    I knew he was a fraud so I played it.
  5. Horse

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    So what are you reporting here exactly? Some random person added you to trade instead of someone else?
  6. MoltioN

    MoltioN New User

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    He is impersonating to someone else and trying to scam...

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    Here everything in the right order

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  8. Horse

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    I didn't request more screenshots yet - just wanting to know exactly what you are reporting since you started a report with no description what so ever as required.
    You say impersonating someone else with intent to defraud - ok where in those screenshots did they say they were someone else can you point that out?
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    1. He is using his name.
    2. He is using his pfp.
  10. Horse

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    That is impersonation - not intent to defraud.
    Impersonation alone isn't a reportable offense here. You have to show viable proof the user clearly noting they are someone else to you in order to defraud.
    I do not see this here - the user seems to only be wanting to do a transaction with you.
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    Listen for real, I am not going to argue and make you ban him.
    I did what I had to do, there's everything there, I did everything by the book and what you asked me to.
    Take your time and give your call, but just know that he really was about to scam that means there will be more targets for him,
    at least I could get him banned so at least one person wont get scammed by him.
  12. Horse

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    Point is I'm making here is you have to show clear proof of impersonation to defraud - you haven't so far.
    You are reporting someone that wanted to just trade with you and assuming they wouldn't pay you - that isn't fair to them at this point or anyone.
    We can't assume the user wouldn't follow thru either - assumptions or reports made off them isn't fair to the accused in any way since they may have done so and everyone would have been happy.
    The reporter/Op as yourself is responsible for submitting a report that can clearly show what you were supposed to describe when submitting it..that isn't something I can control.
    All I can do is request what I need to confirm your accusations so will give 24hours to do so. If you do not and can not prove that the user was clearly saying they were some one else with proper evidence then just say so and say "I do not have enough to verify this report" or something along those lines and I'll review it...simple.
  13. MoltioN

    MoltioN New User

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    Impersonation a trader isnt enough?
  14. Horse

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    Impersonation alone is not a reportable offense here - no.
    You must show clear intent to defraud which means this user clearly saying they were someone else to defraud you.
    • Full nickname, Avatar, profile texts, formatting of stuff, steam badges, etc.
    • Pointing to said account, saying they are an alt of it.
    Those two things have to be hand in hand to submit a report here. If you are just wanting to report impersonation then you can do that with Valve using the in profile reporting feature.

    Ya got 24hours to show that then I'll review report as is.
  15. Horse

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    Would appear that as concluded that there is not enough evidence to suggest this user was up to no good with impersonation to defraud. Impersonation alone isn't a reportable offense here for future reference. As such I'm declining report since the evidence doesn't support this conclusion.
    In the future also be sure to submit the report with all details up front and first upon submission with a very detailed description of issue.
    Declined
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