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Accepted 76561198038119700 (The Doctor)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by {{PA}} Pilltrocity, May 26, 2013.

  1. {{PA}} Pilltrocity

    {{PA}} Pilltrocity New User

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    This one's a bit different in that I have loose connections to both of the people involved, but I didn't directly take place in any of the deals. I have, however, found the reported user to have made several false claims that he cannot revoke. My steam name in the following report is "The D-Oh-Double-G".

    Victim:
    | steamname: Vinnie The Horse
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:47682972
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055631673
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/vinniethehorse
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198055631673

    Scammer:
    | steamname: The Doctor
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:38926986
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038119700
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/harrisofunny
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198038119700

    Pictures of chat:

    Screenshots of account histories to demonstrate the transaction that took place: http://i.imgur.com/GJAUMT2.png (Steam Trading History)
    http://i.imgur.com/wll4hyb.png (Paypal History)
    http://imgur.com/a/0kT5J#0 - 7 screenshots of chats. A few snippets of conversation were omitted from the end of the chat with Vinnie because it was just small talk and nothing helpful to the case.

    Description:

    The Doctor posts on my trade offering my cash buyout: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10767573 then tells me he is 55 dollars short. About an hour later, he offers Vinnie The Horse's cash buyout: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11131484 and adds him. According to Vinnie, the item was sent but he did not receive the money in exchange for the hat; The Doctor claims to have sent the money to the wrong address.
    Vinnie the Horse posts about this on reddit:
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     So I went first on a trade of my cloudy moon dixie for 185 USD, and he told me to send a request for that amount of money. Instead of paying through the email that was supposed to be sent to him, he directly sent the money through his paypal account. The one problem now is that he misspelled my email and ended up sending it to an account that doesn't exist. He claims that the money is still missing from his account, but I never received the payment. I honestly have no idea what to do right now, any help with this would be great.
    Edit: Apparently he thinks that because he sent the money somewhere, he is still entitled to the item.
    Source: http://redd.it/1f2iw7
    After I see this, I have a short conversation with The Doctor, as shown above. His story simply doesn't match up. That, coupled with the fact that he had made several claims that had been proven false, has revealed that The Doctor never had the money, and never intended to buy it, in the first place.

    Sorry for the long description, it's a bit of a convoluted story. Anyway, chat logs:
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    //The Doctor
    The Doctor: wow love your response time
    The Doctor: for that ill add another dollar lol
    The D-Oh-Double-G: xD
    The Doctor: xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Do you have a rep thread I can look at?
    The Doctor: :/ no ive never really traded with money before but i have a paypal
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Hm.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Are you verified?
    The Doctor: probably a dumb uestion but what does that mean?
    The Doctor: question*
    The D-Oh-Double-G: It means you've linked your bank to your Paypal. If you want me to check your paypal email to make sure it's verified, I can do that/
    The Doctor: how do i do that?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Should be under "View Limits" or something on the Paypal dashboard.
    The Doctor: mkay
    The Doctor: ohh s✿✿✿... i only have $75 dolalrs on my paypal now actually sorry
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Oh.
    The Doctor: ill try and add more money tommarow ok?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Sure, that's fine with me.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Just contact me when you have it.
    The Doctor: ok
    //4 hours later
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Hey, I thought you had $75 in your Paypal.
    The Doctor: what?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: How'd you mistakenly send $185 to the wrong email address?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: If you had $75?
    The Doctor: no id reserved it on that trade was adding 5$ forgot one N in it
    The Doctor: in his email*
    The Doctor: forgot one N
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Wait so you did have the money?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: You should have bought mine first :C
    The Doctor: it was reserved D:
    The D-Oh-Double-G: :l
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Okei
    The Doctor: xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Well, next time I suggest copying and pasting the email address.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: It's safer that way :3
    The Doctor: i will :/
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Wait a sec, you offered on the Dixie 3 hours ago. You offered on mine four hours ago. What's the deal with that? P
    The D-Oh-Double-G: :P*
    The Doctor: id been talking with him over skype before xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Oh ok
    The Doctor: then put on there to be ze official
    
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    Vinnie the Horse
    Never tell your password to anyone.
    Vinnie The Horse: Hey
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Hey.
    Vinnie The Horse: yeah, I know I got f✿✿✿ed over
    The D-Oh-Double-G: The Doctor: id been talking with him over skype before xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Is this true?
    Vinnie The Horse: wait
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Here.
    Vinnie The Horse: you know him?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Saturday, May 25, 2013
    The Doctor: wow love your response time
    The Doctor: for that ill add another dollar lol
    The D-Oh-Double-G: xD
    The Doctor: xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Do you have a rep thread I can look at?
    The Doctor: :/ no ive never really traded with money before but i have a paypal
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Hm.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Are you verified?
    The Doctor: probably a dumb uestion but what does that mean?
    The Doctor: question*
    The D-Oh-Double-G: It means you've linked your bank to your Paypal. If you want me to check your paypal email to make sure it's verified, I can do that/
    The Doctor: how do i do that?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Should be under "View Limits" or something on the Paypal dashboard.
    The Doctor: mkay
    The Doctor: ohh s✿✿✿... i only have $75 dolalrs on my paypal now actually sorry
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Oh.
    The Doctor: ill try and add more money tommarow ok?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Sure, that's fine with me.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Just contact me when you have it.
    The Doctor: ok
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Hey, I thought you had $75 in your Paypal.
    The Doctor: what?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: How'd you mistakenly send $185 to the wrong email address?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: If you had $75?
    The Doctor: no id reserved it on that trade was adding 5$ forgot one N in it
    The Doctor: in his email*
    The Doctor: forgot one N
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Wait so you did have the money?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: You should have bought mine first :C
    The Doctor: it was reserved D:
    The D-Oh-Double-G: :l
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Okei
    The Doctor: xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Well, next time I suggest copying and pasting the email address.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: It's safer that way :3
    The Doctor: i will :/
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Wait a sec, you offered on the Dixie 3 hours ago. You offered on mine four hours ago. What's the deal with that? P
    The D-Oh-Double-G: :P*
    The Doctor: id been talking with him over skype before xD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Oh ok
    The Doctor: then put on there to be ze official
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Sorry, it's a bit of a mouthful.
    Vinnie The Horse: let me read through this, give me a sec
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Sure, take your time.
    Vinnie The Horse: er
    Vinnie The Horse: I don't understand
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Yeah, it's not too fluid. What can I clarify?
    Vinnie The Horse: so he never had the money in the first place?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Bonk.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Steamrep awaits~
    Vinnie The Horse: nope
    Vinnie The Horse: they actually don't give two s✿✿✿s about trades outside of tf2
    Vinnie The Horse: *sigh*
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Money scams? Yeah, they do. Don't worry, I'll submit it.
    Vinnie The Horse: oh
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Can you just write a confirmation that he did not talk to you on Skype and show trade history screenshots showing that you sent him the item(s) and a Paypal screenshot showing that you never got any money?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: In this chat, that is.
    Vinnie The Horse: ok, but he never talked to me on skype
    Vinnie The Horse: kk, I'll make some screenshots
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Thanks. I'll draft up the report.
    Vinnie The Horse: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=c7a2e1b64e&view=att&th=13edfa1448d4bafe&attid=0.1&disp=emb&realattid=ii_13edf9a0019e0a0a&zw&atsh=1
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Whoa
    Vinnie The Horse: :/
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Imgur those please, I can't see google links. :P
    Vinnie The Horse: sorry, I'm new at this
    The D-Oh-Double-G: No worries.
    Vinnie The Horse: whenever I try and upload the images, it says "image file may not be supported, or image is corrupt"
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Hrm. What program are you using to encode?
    Vinnie The Horse: I use the printscreen button then ctrl + v
    Vinnie The Horse: *cough*
    The D-Oh-Double-G: What program :P
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Gimp, paint, photoshop, etc.
    Vinnie The Horse: just directly onto the field imgur provides; it allows me to paste right into it
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Ohh. Don't do that, it's pretty broken.
    Vinnie The Horse: I'll just do it im paint, sry
    The D-Oh-Double-G: No, no, it's fine. I can't expect you to know how to do this :P
    Vinnie The Horse: Its the middle of the night in my time zone; sorry if I'm a little slow XD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: It's 3:30 AM here, I getcha.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: We're pretty much ready to go as soon as you get those screenshots
    Vinnie The Horse: http://imgur.com/GJAUMT2
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Alright, thanks. Now the Paypal one.
    Vinnie The Horse: comin' up
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Danke
    Vinnie The Horse: http://imgur.com/wll4hyb
    Vinnie The Horse: oh my god, thank you so much
    Vinnie The Horse: when you submit the claim, could you link me to it?
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Of course.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Question, why is the second bill $190?
    Vinnie The Horse: because he "wanted to add anther 5 dollars for me going first"
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Also, if you could give me some screenshots of your chat with him, it would make things a lot faster for the people over at Steamrep.
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Oh, okay.
    Vinnie The Horse: I got nothing else, sorry
    The D-Oh-Double-G: Alright.
    Vinnie The Horse: But I do feel like a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ idiot
    Vinnie The Horse: since I just lost 200 USD
    The D-Oh-Double-G: I feel you, man.
    Vinnie The Horse: well
    Vinnie The Horse: at least if gives me another reason to quit playing tf2 :D
    
    If there's anything missing that I can provide, I'll do my best. Sorry for making the report so long, but I felt that the details were important.
  2. {{PA}} Pilltrocity

    {{PA}} Pilltrocity New User

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  3. Th3 D0ct0r

    Th3 D0ct0r New User

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    wow, said i was skyping so you'd get off my back because i would rather have his unusual, when i said check my paypal i thought about hey if i bought that i would only have $40 left then so i wouldnt really be able to buy both and i bought it to sell in the first place and i was changing it to where i was sending $190 instead of $185 and i misspelled the email [email protected] by spelling it [email protected] because i typed it out and i'm new to paypal so i didn't know what to do after i found out i spelled his email wrong, after i had just lost $190 i didn't feel like giving what i had lost the money for back, plus i had received death threats to me from "Vinnie the Horse" In-Game via voice chat.
  4. Vinnie The Horse

    Vinnie The Horse New User

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    I sent you an email with a screenshot of my empty paypal account with a time stamp, proving that I never received any money from you. You still did not bother to respond to me or try to fix your "mistake". I never threatened you while in game; you were not responding to me in the steam chat so I attempted to communicate with you directly though Team Fortress 2. I merely said that I was giving you one last chance to return the items you stole from me before I made a claim to steamrep.
  5. Th3 D0ct0r

    Th3 D0ct0r New User

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    whatever you say totally didn't threaten me, and i sent to the wrong email I've said this to you many times
  6. Th3 D0ct0r

    Th3 D0ct0r New User

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    ^^ for your information if you couldn't realise it which i assume you did that was sarcasm above ^^
  7. Vinnie The Horse

    Vinnie The Horse New User

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    If you actually sent it to the wrong email, you knew that I never recieved any money, but you still refused to return the items. Wherever you sent the money doesn't matter to me because I never received any. You should have given me the items back and straightened out your own mistake with paypal. Instead, you immediately put up a trade on outpost and sold it to the first offer. I warned you many times what would happen if you did not give back the items you took from me, so because you did not listen you have to face the consequences.

    Also, the address "[email protected]" doesn't even exist, so if you ever sent any money to that email, paypal would have immediately bounced it back to your account and you would still have the $185.
  8. [P+] ThePyro

    [P+] ThePyro New User

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    In addition "Im a Time Lord", the same user under a new name attempted to buy my unusual for money shortly after Vinnie's ordeal, but refused to use a middleman or go first. He said there were "no free middlemen" as an excuse to not use one, despite commenting on pretender's profile earlier that day, asking for a middleman. http://imgur.com/XtrwvXS
  9. Th3 D0ct0r

    Th3 D0ct0r New User

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    dude lol you can check the persons name i did that for laughs with my name because im a doctor who fan, aswell i've never herd of free middlemen sounds like a scam, and you got upset because i said nty wow ok
  10. Th3 D0ct0r

    Th3 D0ct0r New User

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    yes its a real email i have checked and i sent $190 USD something you cant comprehend, and to the wrong person
  11. [P+] ThePyro

    [P+] ThePyro New User

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    gonna actually provide proof of your paypal balance changing via a screenshot?
  12. Th3 D0ct0r

    Th3 D0ct0r New User

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    gonna stop being a jerk because i didnt buy you unusual?
  13. [P+] ThePyro

    [P+] ThePyro New User

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    I don't give a (expletive) that you didn't buy it. From my conversation with you, you were extremely fishy, and you scammed a trader I know. Now I will leave this thread, as you still have not produced proper evidence showing you paid the 190 dollars to anyone, let alone the wrong guy. And learn proper English grammar.
  14. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    Well, it's clear that 76561198038119700 is lying because as anyone can see in the screenshot above, the victim BILLED the player directly. So the whole "I typed in the wrong email" doesn't even work. In addition, he must think none of us have ever used Paypal because if you enter in an email address of someone who does not have Paypal- which would have clearly happened if he had actually "mistyped" the payment (which didn't happen anyway since the victim BILLED him), Paypal would not have sent the payment because it would not have belonged to a valid Paypal account.

    Marking this as accepted. Tagging him now. Thanks for the report.