Archived 76561198065949628 (Vlad Thomson)

Victim:
| steamname: Jens
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:65868112
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198092001953
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/reactionmaster
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198092001953

Scammer:
| steamname: Vlad Thomson
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:52841950
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065949628
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198065949628

Info:


http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065949628/

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3048/nt3b.png


Chat Log:



Never tell your password to anyone.
Konen Bertine: yo sup
Vlad Thomson: hi
Konen Bertine has changed their name to reactionmaster.com.
Vlad Thomson: you
Vlad Thomson: sell
Vlad Thomson: on steam wallet
Vlad Thomson: right?
reactionmaster.com: y ?
reactionmaster.com: the knife
Vlad Thomson: so
Vlad Thomson: i want to give you
Vlad Thomson: paypal
Vlad Thomson: or steam wallet code
reactionmaster.com: paypal is cool
Vlad Thomson: so
Vlad Thomson: how much you want?
Vlad Thomson: for him?
reactionmaster.com: 150€ and I'll change the name for yo
reactionmaster.com: you
Vlad Thomson: so
Vlad Thomson: i have
Vlad Thomson: 190 euro
Vlad Thomson: on paypal
Vlad Thomson: 150
Vlad Thomson: its k
reactionmaster.com: nice
reactionmaster.com: I need to verify something on paypal it seems like
reactionmaster.com: may take a day
Vlad Thomson: i can
Vlad Thomson: give you
Vlad Thomson: 1 screen
Vlad Thomson: with
Vlad Thomson: my
Vlad Thomson: paypal balance
reactionmaster.com: sure
Vlad Thomson: http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3048/nt3b.png
reactionmaster.com:
Vlad Thomson: so?
Vlad Thomson: i have big rep
reactionmaster.com: but my paypal says I need to activate something
Vlad Thomson: and big trade history
reactionmaster.com: i trust u
reactionmaster.com: dont worry. its my paypalaccount. I have changed bankcard recently and need to change that
Vlad Thomson: k i wait you
Vlad Thomson: you can give first?
Vlad Thomson: because..
Vlad Thomson: you dont have
Vlad Thomson: rep..
Vlad Thomson: and..
reactionmaster.com: I can log onto my other account if you want
reactionmaster.com: "addep"
reactionmaster.com: this is my second account for cs:go
Vlad Thomson: k k
Vlad Thomson: so how we can do it?
reactionmaster.com: also the website is a website im working on for cs:go
reactionmaster.com: I can request money on paypal. you accept. paypal holds on to the money until you say you have received the item.
reactionmaster.com: i think thats the way paypal works
reactionmaster.com: is your real name vlad thomson ?
Vlad Thomson: yea
reactionmaster.com: mine is Jens **********
Vlad Thomson: )\
Vlad Thomson: :O
Vlad Thomson: nice
reactionmaster.com: so what's ur email ?
reactionmaster.com: for paypal
reactionmaster.com: i think its fixed now
reactionmaster.com: I pressed on the wrong tab. "Add Money" which I think is addm money to the paypal account
Vlad Thomson: i dont want to give first man..
Vlad Thomson: because you dont have rep....
Vlad Thomson: and...
reactionmaster.com: dont worry.
reactionmaster.com: it goes like this
reactionmaster.com: I send you a REQUEST FOR MONEY. through paypal
reactionmaster.com: then paypal holds on to the money until you ACCEPT and AGREE that you have received the item
Vlad Thomson: why you dont give knife and after i give you monet?
Vlad Thomson: money*
reactionmaster.com: because I neither want to give u first just like that haha
Vlad Thomson: yes
Vlad Thomson: but i give you my
Vlad Thomson: paypal balance
Vlad Thomson: and
Vlad Thomson: you can see
Vlad Thomson: and my rep
Vlad Thomson: and my
Vlad Thomson: inventory
reactionmaster.com: yes I see that. but if we are to do it through paypal, i have a guarantee that I receive my money, and you have a guarantee that you receive the item

before the money
reactionmaster.com: is paid
Vlad Thomson: nop i dont have a guarantee..
Vlad Thomson: thi is the problem
Vlad Thomson: ..
reactionmaster.com: hmm. lets read up on paypal and find out how it works. two sec
reactionmaster.com:
Vlad Thomson: yes i trust you
Vlad Thomson: but i cant give first
Vlad Thomson: really now..
Vlad Thomson: because you dont have rep
Vlad Thomson: and i have..
reactionmaster.com:
Vlad Thomson: so man
Vlad Thomson: we can trade
Vlad Thomson: only
Vlad Thomson: if you want to
Vlad Thomson: give first
Vlad Thomson: or
Vlad Thomson: if you want me to give first
Vlad Thomson: give me a guarantee
Vlad Thomson: a you dont trick me
reactionmaster.com: I received your screenshot. so I know you have the money. but If I send you the item, you hold on to everything. which leaves me the loser and u the

winner
Vlad Thomson: man
Vlad Thomson: i have a big rep
Vlad Thomson: i dont want to
Vlad Thomson: ruin
Vlad Thomson: my
Vlad Thomson: reputation
Vlad Thomson: for 1 item
Vlad Thomson: really now
Vlad Thomson: ..
reactionmaster.com: for all I know, the reputation can be all your friends writing things on your wall. for exactly this kind of situation
Vlad Thomson: nop
Vlad Thomson: all who writing
Vlad Thomson: are
Vlad Thomson: people
Vlad Thomson: with who i trade..
Vlad Thomson: im honest man
Vlad Thomson: and i want your knife
Vlad Thomson: ..
Vlad Thomson: this is all
reactionmaster.com: yes I believe you. but I don't want to put myself in that situation without a guarantee that you will pay me for the item. I hope you understand
Vlad Thomson: i understand man
reactionmaster.com has changed their name to Jens.
Vlad Thomson: but you have enought reasons
Vlad Thomson: to trust me..
Jens: is this you ? https://www.facebook.com/vlad.tomson?fref=ts
Vlad Thomson: nop
Vlad Thomson: so now
Vlad Thomson: you can trust me?:|
Jens: If I can request money from you, I can trust you. but without that safety I can't.
Jens: paypal holds on to the money MEANWHILE we trade. then you say its OK. and paypal sends me the money
Vlad Thomson: i trsut you with this
Vlad Thomson: but
Vlad Thomson: so much people
Vlad Thomson: scamm me
Vlad Thomson: with this..
Vlad Thomson: really now..
Vlad Thomson: and i dont want to be scamm
Vlad Thomson: i cant speack
Vlad Thomson: i dont have
Jens: ok
Vlad Thomson: micropfhone
Vlad Thomson: right now
Jens: but how can I scam you if you are the one who says to paypal the deal went ok
Vlad Thomson: i said this..
Vlad Thomson: but you want me to give you money
Vlad Thomson: first..
Vlad Thomson: why you dont give first
Jens: because then you can just delete me from friendslist and run off with the item.
Vlad Thomson: man
Vlad Thomson: ..
Vlad Thomson: i have big trade history..
Vlad Thomson: and rep
Vlad Thomson: and i show you
Vlad Thomson: a i have
Vlad Thomson: money..
Vlad Thomson: why i wnat to run
Vlad Thomson: with your item?
Vlad Thomson: :|
Jens: have you traded like this before ?
Vlad Thomson: oh yea..
Vlad Thomson: wit my knife
Vlad Thomson: who i have
Vlad Thomson: in inventory..
Vlad Thomson: i said to you
Vlad Thomson: im not new
Vlad Thomson: in trade..
Vlad Thomson: i have story..
Vlad Thomson: and reputation..
Vlad Thomson: so?
Jens: and as I said. the comments on your profile could be your friends. One guy even says "i give awp first and all it's ok." and I find that a littlebit suspicious. 10
trades in 3 days. 4 guys from "indungi.ro" which you are also a part of apparently.
Jens: If you do not agree to me requesting money, no trade.
Vlad Thomson: yea beause
Vlad Thomson: i sponsores
Vlad Thomson: indungi.ro
Vlad Thomson: for this
Vlad Thomson: they
Vlad Thomson: comment
Vlad Thomson: on my profile..
Vlad Thomson: and i accept your mothed
Vlad Thomson: but you dont have rep to trust you..
Vlad Thomson: and you dont have so many trades...
Vlad Thomson: for this
Vlad Thomson: i want you to give first
Vlad Thomson: because...
Vlad Thomson: its hard to trust you
Jens: because I dont have rep I get it.
Jens: http://steamcommunity.com/id/addep
Jens: this is my MAIN account on steam
Jens: i have been on steam for soon to be 10 years.
Jens: i have spent around 1000€ on my steamaccount over these past years.
Jens: and I have been scammed myself many times on the internet.
Jens: thats why I want you, who have the money - to accept my method of trading.
Vlad Thomson: i accept your motheds
Vlad Thomson: but and on your
Vlad Thomson: main account
Vlad Thomson: you dont have rep..
Jens: two sec I'll open it
Jens: Never had people to write on my wall for trades.
Jens: does it look like.
Vlad Thomson: i had
Vlad Thomson: because
Vlad Thomson: i want people
Vlad Thomson: to know
Vlad Thomson: a im
Jens: but if you accept it. what is the big deal with me requesting money before we trade ?
Vlad Thomson: good trader..
Vlad Thomson: and im hones
Vlad Thomson: i trust you
Jens: How often do you go to a store in your city to buy a new suit. wear the new suit. go to a club, then come back later to pay for it
Vlad Thomson: man
Vlad Thomson: i need your
Vlad Thomson: knife
Vlad Thomson: now
Vlad Thomson: because i said
Vlad Thomson: im sponsor
Vlad Thomson: for 1
Vlad Thomson: competition..
Vlad Thomson: so
Vlad Thomson: you want?
Vlad Thomson: or..
Jens: Of course I want to sell it. but you won't give me insurance that you will not just run off with my knife.
Vlad Thomson: for what run dude..
Vlad Thomson: i dont want to ruin
Vlad Thomson: my account..
Vlad Thomson: you can screen this conversation
Vlad Thomson: and report me..
Vlad Thomson: and i have banned..
Vlad Thomson: really now
Jens: if you write what your email is. we can trade.
Jens: let me write an email to you. and you answer that email. then we trade.
Vlad Thomson: yes but
Vlad Thomson: if i
Vlad Thomson: answer
Vlad Thomson: to your email.
Vlad Thomson: aaa
Vlad Thomson: emaill
Jens: then I know it is you.
Jens: or you can send me an email if you want.
Vlad Thomson: give me
Jens: **@**.**
Vlad Thomson: your
Vlad Thomson: email
Vlad Thomson: i give you email tonight
Vlad Thomson: we can wait
Vlad Thomson: ?
Jens: sure. take your time.
Vlad Thomson: we wait until tonight
Vlad Thomson: and tonight
Vlad Thomson: i show you
Jens: looking forward to it.
Jens: https://twitter.com/VladThomson is this your twitter ?
Vlad Thomson: nop im romanian..


----------Pause----He starts playing Counter Strike----------


13. september 2013
Vlad Thomson: ok
Vlad Thomson: so
Vlad Thomson: now
Vlad Thomson: i can give you mail
Vlad Thomson: give me your addres
Vlad Thomson: agagin
Vlad Thomson: again*
Vlad Thomson: plz
Jens: **@**.**
Vlad Thomson: k
Vlad Thomson: now i give you
Vlad Thomson: mail
Jens: if its okay with you we can use a middleman
Jens: http://steamrep.com/group.php?id=2
Jens: then we both avoid having the issue with one of us running off
Vlad Thomson: i dont want a middleman..
Vlad Thomson: i said
Vlad Thomson: i give
Vlad Thomson: you mail..
Vlad Thomson: right now
Jens: i cant take ur money and leave. and u cant take my item and leave.
Vlad Thomson: you dont trust me?
Vlad Thomson: really?
Jens: i dont trust anyone on the internet.
Vlad Thomson: yes but
Vlad Thomson: i give you and the email
Vlad Thomson: and all..
Vlad Thomson: you cant trust me?
Vlad Thomson: i have rep
Vlad Thomson: you say me
Vlad Thomson: to give you
Vlad Thomson: emaill
Vlad Thomson: i give it
Jens: [email protected]
Vlad Thomson: yes
Jens: this is you ?
Vlad Thomson: its my
Vlad Thomson: email
Vlad Thomson: now
Vlad Thomson: you trust me?
Jens: Yes I sent the request now.
Vlad Thomson: and after
Vlad Thomson: i accept
Vlad Thomson: your request
Vlad Thomson: you give me the item?
Jens: Yes
Vlad Thomson: than
Vlad Thomson: i give you adress
Vlad Thomson: give me
Vlad Thomson: item
Vlad Thomson: and after
Vlad Thomson: i give you
Vlad Thomson: accept..
Vlad Thomson: because
Vlad Thomson: i give all what you say
Jens: yes
Vlad Thomson: why you are lier now?
Vlad Thomson has accepted your request to trade.
Jens: Trade confirmed (For chat log)
Vlad Thomson is now Offline.
Vlad Thomson is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
Jens: You will be banned soon.


Description:
I had a StatTrak Flip-Knife on the steam market. This guy added me and asked how much I wanted for the knife through PayPal. I said the same as I would receive on the Steam-Market, which was 150€. After much back and forth, I receieved and E-mail from him, searched the email-adress on Google and found out he has used it to register on a website before. I sent the request for money on PayPal, but I didn't know he had the ability to Cancel the payment.
Few moments after he received the item he deletes me from his friendslist and Cancels the payment.
The scammed account is my second account which I use for Soloqueing in CS:GO.
If there is anything more you need to know please resond.


Thoughts:
I should have sticked to my own train of thought and don't let him disrupt me with the whole "You don't have REP"-thing.
Also I thought PayPal would hold on to the money while the Money Request was sent and that we both had to Agree. (I'm not very familiar with PayPal).
I should have found out a better way to ID him as well, All I had was the email at the end of the day, which he could have made during the Pause earlier.


Thanks guys, hope you know how to deal with this.
As far as the item goes, I don't really care if I get it back or not, but when they are worth over 10€ and over 100€ etc , it makes a differce because they are actually worth real money.

If anyone know how to open the Steam Chat History, please tell me so I can screenshot it.

Uploaded a screenshot of the Email he sent me.

Update. Seems like he has traded away the knife.

By the way, you're friend with 1 of his accounts.

| steamname: Ebic
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:37567364
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198035400457
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ebicgo
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198035400457

Aha I see.
One guy named Bob added my main-account. So maybe this "Bob" is also his account.
Bob told me Ebic had lots of information about this guy so it makes sense. Or maybe he is impersonating the guy Bob really was talking to. But it looks like he is definitely the same guy, because I was talking to "Ebic" Yesterday and sent him the link to my post.

We need screenshots of those chats.

How can I take a screenshot now that the chatwindow is closed? Can I find a chat-log anywhere? Maybe a local chatlog somewhere?

Nope sorry, if you cannot get the chat I'd have to archive this

I'm happy to announce that this person has finally received a Trade ban, hopefully on his main account.

OK but without evidence I cannot proceed.

Archiving,.