Evidence Provided 76561198078399958

Victim:

| steamname: Crucifox
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:19574200
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999414128
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Crucifox
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197999414128



Scammer:

| steamname: Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:59067115
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198078399958
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Zantec
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198078399958


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This one really f✿✿✿✿✿✿ hurts me. A lockjaw is honestly, whatever, I've lost way more to scammers, but the fact that this is the third or fourth time I've gotten scammed in a row has really impacted my ability to trust any trader, at all, for any reason.

This guy talked with me for 3 days about trading and I checked his steamrep multiple times, checked how many scammers he had as friends, and guess what? The guy has only 1, and even has a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ verified green tagged middleman and moderator on his friends list. What the f✿✿✿?

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024890686 <---- This is the guy I'm talking about. This guy being friends with this scammer is kind of what pushed me over the edge to trust him. Not that I'm placing blame.

It's my fault I trusted him and got ripped off, but let me tell you there were only 2 f✿✿✿✿✿✿ flags that the guy wasn't on the level, and the first was his inventory. It's too small to make sense, I think. The second was him asking me to send him an invoice so he could "check my paypal" and make sure it was verified, which I know first hand is a load of bullshit. But after 3 days, the guy disappearing and reappearing after holding pleasant, normal, non-rushed conversations with me? He really convinced me he was a completely normal person and not a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ a✿✿✿✿✿✿.

My point is, for a scammer, he is extremely patient, and his account has 20 bought games on it. He has 130 or so friends. Plenty of time spent playing. It's not a new account. Like, I even f✿✿✿✿✿✿ googled him.

enough of my crying. here's the transcript.

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 Crucifox: Yo
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ?
Crucifox: I want to sell dota 2 items.
Crucifox: Want to discuss?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: before that
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: do you have a rep page?
Crucifox: No, and since you're obviously a known person I might as well tell you up front I'm marked as a scammer on steamrep.
Crucifox: Since you'll look and find out anyway.
Crucifox: I'm innocent, but I'm not talking to you to try and prove or disprove that.
Crucifox: I just want to sell stuff.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , i just saw
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: was wondering why too
Crucifox: I've got 2 fezzles, an osky, a trapjaw, and some signatures.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i just need osky and trap
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no need fezzle
Crucifox: May I ask why the special interest in those 2?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: cheap?
Crucifox: Okay.
Crucifox: What do you pay for those 2?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: cash?
Crucifox: Yeah, paypal.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yes
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: USD
Crucifox: Yep.
Crucifox: Greenbacks.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and i need to see your offer
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ^^
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: if bad price then sorry ><
Crucifox: $6,271.33 USD for the trapjaw
Crucifox: Why does the seller have to "offer" to the buyer? What kind of f✿✿✿✿✿✿ sense does that make?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: haha
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: cause i want to compare the market price
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i tell you
Crucifox: Any idea where this "offer" "no u offer" bullshit came from?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: if you see my chat
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i get ✿✿✿✿✿✿s offer
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: osky in steam 2 market is 80$
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and they ask me to pay them 120$
Crucifox: Ha.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that's why man
Crucifox: I just want a normal price.
Crucifox: If market is normal, then I'll take that.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2lounge.com/trade?t=34826615
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: like this
Crucifox: I don't want to scam you or get some ridiculously inflated price.
Crucifox: I just want a simple, easy trade.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: so quote me best price for osky and trap
Crucifox: You're really set on making me name a price first aren't you?
Crucifox: Hold on while I go look at the community market.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: okay
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: best price usually got discount one ><
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: hah
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: haha*
Crucifox: Osky's are starting at 80.
Crucifox: 75 or 70 should be fine.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 70
Crucifox: If I would have said 60 you'd've said 55
Crucifox: Don't play games with me.
Crucifox: Trapjaws start at "$59.80" apparently
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 55
Crucifox: So 54-49 should be fine.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 49 :D
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: you put the price range
Crucifox: I'm laughing, or I'd be mad.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: chill man
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So quote me the best price and lets discuss how we deal
Crucifox: Alright.
Crucifox: Well, you know I'm marked as a scammer, so it's hard for me to trust that people won't look at me and think, "I can rip this guy off and no one will listen to him, he's a scammer, this is my chance for free money!"
Crucifox: I can and WILL link you to steamrep threads I have submitted post being marked where I got other people who thought that marked as scammers.
Crucifox: So don't f✿✿✿✿✿✿ pull my chain. I will make another thread for you if you want to play games.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: what are you mumbling about ==?
Crucifox: I'm saying, I know how to report scammers.
Crucifox: So don't f✿✿✿ around please.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: dude i also know man ==
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: either go to steamrep forum
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: or
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2traders.com/forum/node/report-a-scammer.21/
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: if you dont know the template of posting
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: let me show you my examples
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2traders.com/forum/thread/76561198086336190.86165/
Crucifox: Nice.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i'm more updated ^^
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lols
Crucifox: I tried but I can't find my old threads.
Crucifox: I've submitted like 4 so far.
Crucifox: Real sick of it.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: archived maybe
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: try asking wuvs or jerry
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2traders.com/forum/node/archive.58/
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: try here
Crucifox: It's alright.
Crucifox: I trust you a bit more now.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait i need to report a f✿✿✿✿✿
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ==
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/10070927086
Crucifox: Really?
Crucifox: You got scammed out of a hearthstone beta key?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: kinda
Crucifox: Isn't that like 600 bucks?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: in 2 days tme more none
Crucifox: Huh.
Crucifox: Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait im posting to kill her actually.
Crucifox: Alright, so
Crucifox: How do we proceed
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait a moment
Crucifox: I was asking one of my friends that buys from me, funnybunny if he wanted my couriers.
Crucifox: I'll wait I guess.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/10070927086?page=1#8
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: see how the proof burns
Crucifox: Hilarious, good job.
Crucifox: f✿✿✿ that b✿✿✿✿.
Crucifox: If you pay me, I'll throw you my pair of Manta blades.
Crucifox: To express my sympathy.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i manage to buy that for 9$
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: she was like , wanted my qop + 10k
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i said for starters i want to trust u
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and she ran with the starters believing iterm
Crucifox: So, how about....53 for trapjaw, 73 for osky
Crucifox: I don't know what fezzle sells for.
Crucifox: Market says it's worth like 150
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah man, its possible. but give me few minutes
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im submitting a ticket
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: to kill that b✿✿✿✿
Crucifox: Didn't realize you were still handling that. My bad. Let me know when you're free.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: haha okies
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im sending ticket to blizzard
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: the big boss
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: bacl
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: back*
Crucifox: Welcome back.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: sorry it took awhile
Crucifox: It's okay.
Crucifox: Do you actually want to trade now?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yeah why not
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im also interested on others item as well
Crucifox: What other items?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]:  http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/570/2/1062028191/?l=english&o_url=Crucifox
 
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]:  http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/570/2/1062028196/?l=english&o_url=Crucifox
 
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]:  http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/570/2/1062028204/?l=english&o_url=Crucifox
 
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: you got the rubick prestidigator set?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and aui sign
Crucifox: I do have aui_2000's signature
Crucifox: I don't know about prestidigitator
Crucifox: I only have the snake face and cloak set for rubick
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ouch
Crucifox: I just traded for the portal stuff. =(
Crucifox: Oh well, we'll see.
Crucifox: I can agree to sell the portal stuff if all else goes well I guess.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: can no prob
Crucifox: So are you ready?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yea man
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] did not respond to the trade request.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] has accepted your request to trade.
Crucifox: Are you not curious what my paypal is?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i haven't even saw the trade windows yet
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im waiting to see how you start
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and im still replying blizzard
Crucifox: I keep waiting for you to ask me what my paypal is, lol.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait bro
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i feel like postponing this trade for 10 minutes is that possible
Crucifox: Yeah, sure.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: what time is it at your place?
Crucifox: 5:44 am
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: shouldn't you be in bed?
Crucifox: Yeah, like a while ago I guess.
Crucifox: If I want to keep normal hours.
Crucifox: Not like anything important is happening in my life right now.
Crucifox: I'm not concerned.
Crucifox: What time is it where you are?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 6.46 PM
Crucifox: K it's been like a half hour
Crucifox: Lol
Crucifox: Did you fall asleep?
Crucifox: What the hell man.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no man
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i was in a problem
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ><
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: now only solved
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: bro?
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Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: bro?
Crucifox: Sup
Crucifox: You're back?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: s✿✿✿ happened so i had to prolong for a day
Crucifox: It's okay.
Crucifox: Are you ready to try trading again?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: now is 2PM here
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: @ 5PM
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i didn't add any funds to my Paypal yet
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: so yeah
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: After 5pm
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Either you or me
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: PM each others
Crucifox: Do you know how much you're adding to paypal?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I'm adding 410$
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i got other funds for other seller also
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ><
Crucifox: Okay lol
Crucifox: I'd like to sell you some signatures, would you be interested in any of those?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: depends on the price mate
Crucifox: I suppose it does. We should add up what the 4 couriers are gonna cost.
Crucifox: 125 for the osky and trapjaw is fair, correct? 55 for one and 70 for the other?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeap
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that's the price
Crucifox: And the 2 fezzles, I assume they are 140 apiece, so 280 makes basically 405/410, like you said you were adding.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: eh , i thought got free aui in that package of 125$
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: XD
Crucifox: So gj on that.
Crucifox: Oh, aui.
Crucifox: Yeah, sure.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no man i dont need feezle
Crucifox: He's yours.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: my funds are limited
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ><
Crucifox: I thought you were buying my fezzles!
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no no
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: just osky and trapjaw
Crucifox: Well damn.
Crucifox: I need more money. I wanted to sell my fezzles.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: If things go smooth
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: today
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Next month when my salary clears, i can buy more
Crucifox: Mm.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Just few days
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Now its 25
Crucifox: I guess you should look at my signatures and see what ones you're interested in.
Crucifox: So maybe we can work out a price for those.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Within 30
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Hmm , Akke have?
Crucifox: Yes
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Best price for Akke , i mean if you have alliance
Crucifox: I only have bulldog and akke.
Crucifox: From alliance, anyway
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: quote me best price for bulldog and akke
Crucifox: I honest to god don't know their prices
Crucifox: I'll have to go look them up
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: k
Crucifox: akke is apparently 15 keys
Crucifox: So 25 bucks for him
Crucifox: Bulldog goes for around 40 I guess
Crucifox: So 68 bucks for him
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no bulldog then
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: akke maybe
Crucifox: Ok
Crucifox: What price do you want to pay for bulldog?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: well i can only pay like once 150$
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that also ill have balance of 260
Crucifox: Okay, so I'll give you an osky, a trapjaw, aui_2000, and akke for 150?
Crucifox: Is that the amount you can spend?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yeah man
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: just 150$
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i need to spend on an ef courier somemore.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Online.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: k
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: hey
Crucifox: Sup
Crucifox: What's going on
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Nothing
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Why?
Crucifox: Uh
Crucifox: Because you messaged me
Crucifox: I thought I was responding to you
Crucifox: Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: k
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: hey
Crucifox: Sup
Crucifox: What's going on
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: the item for 150$?
Crucifox: Yeah? Is someone else on your computer or something?
Crucifox: You said you couldn't do that till 3 hours later I think
Crucifox: Is it time?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , i thought my funds will be late transffered
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: But it was on time
Crucifox: Cool.
Crucifox: Does that mean you want to trade now, or later?
Crucifox: you've made me wait plenty so I'm over it, lol.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Few minutes
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: It wll be worth
Crucifox: K
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Online.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Done
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Just purchased a nice SB
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: :D
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ?
Crucifox: You there?
Crucifox: Lol
Crucifox: What's a SB?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , its only you.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Shadow Blade Kunkka
Crucifox: You went offline for a minute.
Crucifox: Nice.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So, let's trade
Crucifox: Okay.
Crucifox: I'll start with just the trapjaw, which was 55 bucks, right?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So the fee's you cover?
Crucifox: I guess? What's the fee?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 55$ , ard 3-4
Crucifox: Sure.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Can you send me an invoice to my PP?
Crucifox: Uh
Crucifox: If I remember how
Crucifox: Sure
Crucifox: But why?
Crucifox: That's kind of a strange and uncommon request.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lazy man
Crucifox: Hahahah
Crucifox: Alright, what's your paypal
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that's how i deal just now.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I learnt that today
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: [email protected]
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I want to check your PP verified or not ><
Crucifox: Oh
Crucifox: Totally legit reason. I respect that.
Crucifox: Now, help me remember how to send a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ invoice.
Crucifox: nm, got it
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: LOL , watching a nice Youtube show
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOeNGvvcgv4
Crucifox: invoice sent
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Sent [email protected]
Sent fromMichelle Chitwood
[email protected]
Invoice number0004
Date payment is dueSep 25, 2013
Amount$55.00 USD
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yours?
Crucifox: Yup.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yup, it's legitimate
Crucifox: Yep. I'm verified, attached to a bank account, etc.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So Trapjaw will be the first
Crucifox: Yep.
Crucifox: Do you want an invoice with every trade?
Crucifox: Or was that just to make sure I was verified or whatever?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , for future ref
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Actually next round no need
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I can send it
Crucifox: Alright, we might as well get this over with.
Crucifox: I'm gonna go first on the trapjaw.
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Crucifox: What the f✿✿✿ man
Crucifox: Do you just go offline right after trades to scare people on purpose or what?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: No la
Crucifox: la?
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Crucifox: Oh, it was steam I guess.
Crucifox: Scary timing anyway.
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yea , i gotta admit
Crucifox: Anyway, sending?
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah, bad line
Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I'm processing it
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Crucifox: f✿✿✿ you, by the way.
Crucifox: Making the report, already have 3 of the screenshots.
   

Hello! Can you provide a screenshot of your trade history?

Sure, sorry about the delay.

That would work!

An SR admin will investigate this in a while!