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Accepted 76561198115857578 - (Swafferdonk / [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by [AR] Soldier Mafia, Feb 9, 2014.

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  1. [AR] Soldier Mafia

    [AR] Soldier Mafia New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Item Fraud] Quick-switch trade scam or attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198115857578 (Swafferdonk)

    Victim profile: 76561198023498106

    What happened? Description:
    The guy added me and wanted my Counterfeit. Terror Watt Counterfeit. So I traded him and it did not work to begin with.
    So I decided to try with trade-offers. I put in all the items and clicked accepted. He added and he removed me.
    After sometime, I figured, I did not have the buds I was promised. So I re-added him and asked for them. He then removed and blocked me.​

    Provide Evidence:
    Chat log:
    Soldier Gibus: Hey
    Swafferdonk: oi
    Swafferdonk: :p
    Soldier Gibus: We need to talk quick
    Swafferdonk: u wot
    Soldier Gibus: Something is not right.
    Swafferdonk: wat
    Soldier Gibus: I cannot find my earbuds
    Swafferdonk: really?
    Soldier Gibus: Yes.
    Swafferdonk: let me check my bp
    Swafferdonk: i don't see my earbuds in my bp
    Swafferdonk: are you sure it isnt a mistake?
    Soldier Gibus: Going to check trade history
    Soldier Gibus: You still have them
    Soldier Gibus: I can see them
    Swafferdonk: i just searched my bp
    Swafferdonk: and i don't have them
    Swafferdonk: im not joking
    Swafferdonk: i typed "ear"
    Soldier Gibus: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/440/2/2352103842/?l=english&o=76561198115857578

    Soldier Gibus: Owned by: Swafferdonk
    Swafferdonk: i seriously do not have them in my bp
    Swafferdonk: im not joking
    Soldier Gibus: I'll send a trade-offer
    Soldier Gibus: If I find them
    Soldier Gibus: You hand them over.
    Soldier Gibus: Found them
    Soldier Gibus: Sent the trade-offer
    Swafferdonk: did you accidentally
    Swafferdonk: like
    Swafferdonk: when you sent the trade
    Soldier Gibus: Forgot them
    Soldier Gibus: Yeah
    Swafferdonk: did you not ask
    Swafferdonk: for earbuds
    Soldier Gibus: I forgot
    Swafferdonk: ah
    Swafferdonk: thats unfortunate
    Soldier Gibus: Mhm.
    Soldier Gibus: I thought I had it under control.
    Swafferdonk is now Offline.
    He removed and blocked me there.
    View attachment 51146
    My trade history:
    View attachment 51149
    He still has the bud and unusual.
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198115857578/inventory/#440_2_2352186496

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  2. Swafferdonk

    Swafferdonk Banned on SteamRep

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    Now as you can clearly see, he sent me the trade offer, but forgot to add the earbuds. The screenshot of him saying he forgot to add the earbuds is also here. HE sent the trade offer, NOT ME. Therefor it is his fault and in no way a scam.
  3. Sjru

    Sjru Retired Staff

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    Hello! Please upload the evidence directly into the forum, using the upload file button, thanks!


    Also give your trading history
  4. [AR] Soldier Mafia

    [AR] Soldier Mafia New User

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    My trading history.
    proof three.jpg
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    Sjru Retired Staff

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    Swafferdonk Banned on SteamRep

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    Sjru Retired Staff

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    Can you upload that here?

    Use the upload a file button.
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    Swafferdonk Banned on SteamRep

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    @Swafferdonk

    The agreement did include earbuds? Yes or no?
  10. [AR] Soldier Mafia

    [AR] Soldier Mafia New User

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    Yes, it did, but I forgot to add them as mentioned.
  11. Swafferdonk

    Swafferdonk Banned on SteamRep

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    What do you consider to be an agreement? Our price bounced around back and forth frequently, and he sent me a random trade offer.
  12. [AR] Soldier Mafia

    [AR] Soldier Mafia New User

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    Can you be really honest and think I would send a random trade offer, without an agreement to the price? Mind you not, that you sold 2 unusuals to get the pure, so you could trade the pure for my unusual.

    Your unusuals:
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2352104553,322,5
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2352104586,48,5

    To confirm this, I have talked with the buyer; Yu-Gi-Oh (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043819159)
    He provided me a screenshot of the trade he did with Swafferdonk.
    Screenshot:
    AabANzi.jpg
    Notice the date: 9th Feb, 6:46pm.

    And our deal
    9th Feb, 8:19pm, which is 1½ hours later.

    If the bud (which what Swafferdonk got) comes the guy, the conclusion was that you DID sell them for pure.
    In fact: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2352103842,143,6
    It does match up, including his backpack history: http://backpack.tf/id/76561198115857578?time=1391932800
    History of the bud: http://backpack.tf/item/91758139

    Besides that, you did not have "any" keys, when I first traded with you. How can I prove it? I cannot. HOWEVER, that is YOUR job to do now.
    Why? Because it can verify what you had before we met.
    (Basically, I am looking for your backpack history, maybe on the 8th Feb.)

    Conclusion: He traded his 2 unusuals for pure, so he could trade the pure for my unusual. In other words, he did not have any keys to begin with. (Unless proven wrong regarding having keys to begin with)
  13. Swafferdonk

    Swafferdonk Banned on SteamRep

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    Why wouldn't the offer you sent me be our agreement? Your logic is unfathomable.
  14. Swafferdonk

    Swafferdonk Banned on SteamRep

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    Edit : You were also asked TWICE whether the contents of the trade were what you wanted to send. Using that, wouldn't the trade offer you sent be the agreement? Considering you CONFIRMED TWICE that those were the items you wanted to trade?
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    Accused clearly noted that the agreement was for the earbuds and while a mistake was made the agreement wasn't upheld.
    Looks like a scam to me after not fulfilling the agreement and then trying to blame the other user for their mistake.
    report accepted
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