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Need More Info Report: 76561198049406480 - (Chokollis(GR) / [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Pre-2017 Reports' started by HANFANNN, Mar 29, 2014.

  1. HANFANNN

    HANFANNN New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198049406480 (Chokollis(GR))

    Victim profile: 76561198107580320

    What happened? Description:
    I met this person through Outpost. I was sifting through backpack.tf looking for a nice heavy hat, and saw the new hat, the Minnesota Slick. I saw the Blizzardy Storm effect and followed that link to Outpost. Saw this guy selling it, added him, then I went afk for about 2 hours. When I returned, I told him I wanted to offer on his hat, but he told me he got scammed. I basically just tracked down its owner using Outpost item history since he unboxed it a few hours ago only and there was no data of it on backpack.tf yet.

    I understand that the victim is supposed to report for himself, but the problem is he doesn't know how to use SteamRep and honestly it's pointless to have to teach him what to type when I can just do it. I believe the case here is against the scammer, and not frivolous things like who the reporter is.

    The accusation is towards Chokollis. He has long been known to have engaged in suspicious trading, having quicksells all the time. He was BANNED from backpack.tf for a while when there was clear evidence pointing towards his shady dealings, but that ban has since expired.

    The evidence is all in the screenshots. There are two other parties involved in this, and there is without a doubt to assume that Chokollis is essentially all three parties involved in scamming this poor fella who got lucky on his 3rd crate. The fake Reddit middleman is already marked on SteamRep, whereas Swoleji (http://steamrep.com/search?q=76561198116903347) is yet to be marked. With literally 0.6 hours on TF2, there is simply no way that Chokollis bought it off legitly from Swoleji. Swoleji has NO items in his backpack, indicating clearly his role as a multi to avoid Chokollis from doing the dirty work himself. The hat is currently not on the market, but trust me, it's going on soon. Just waiting for the tide to calm first.

    Once again, I hope that the identity of the reporter is not an issue.​

    Provide Evidence:
    The first screenshot shows kazzkazza's screenshot of how Swoleji and Mad-Matt cheated him.

    The next 3 screenshots show his chat with me, not sure how much use there will be but just to clarify my role in this case.

    Here is the item history link, on outpost.

    http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2474024611,30315,5

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  2. HANFANNN

    HANFANNN New User

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    To clarify, the scam was a Paypal money scam, where Swoleji told kazz that he would pay kazz in Paypal for the Minnesota Slick hat. They used a fake middleman, where Swoleji linked the real reddit middleman's SteamRep and had the fake one invited into the chat. Once kazz transferred the hat to the supposed Mad-Matt, they unfriended him and left.
  3. Sjru

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    Hello, mind linking the fake middleman here?

    Also give your trading history and paypal history.
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  5. Chokollis(GR)

    Chokollis(GR) New User

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    Yea sure if you scammed dont try to ruin my account & my job , i had bought that hat 30 keys , his outpost was clean , so i bought it
    & i am buying alot of stuff everyday - Unusuals - Promos -buds . etc + i am buying stuff through steam market
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/383633 .
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  8. HANFANNN

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    Hi Chokollis,

    I do admit I was rather rash in posting this report directly, implicating you in this scam. However, it is clear and your own words have shown that, even if you did not participate in the scam, you were aware of the hat's origins. Quoting your words, "his outpost was clean , so i bought it & i am buying alot of stuff everyday ", it is apparent that you, as an established trader handling numerous unusuals and quickselling almost all of them for dubious reasons, should and would have looked up the history of the item. Even so, the alleged seller, "Swolejj" had LITERALLY 3 TRADES open on Outpost, and you're telling me that you managed to add him and trade with him without looking at his profile? His profile shows 0.6 hours, how legit is that?

    I'm aware that this constitutes as lying to staff (aka ban) on Outpost.
  9. Chokollis(GR)

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    Hey there
    First of all he added me !,through my post which i am buying quicksells , http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18520754
    You think that i am gonna risk my account have over 3200 of tf2 gaming & i am user 2.5 , i am buying anything for pure
    Proofs on the links which i send you & on my posts . And next time be careful , you trying to hurt me , cause you were not careful with your trades , not kind
  10. HANFANNN

    HANFANNN New User

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    Chokollis...first of all I am not the victim in this trade.

    Second of all..stop digging your own grave. Admins, feel free to disprove me, but look at the link that Chokollis just posted above ^. Ctrl-f Swolejj, and you find two Swolejj results. Both of these are the sub accounts of Swolejj. Chokollis has and IS engaging in dealing with scammed hats, being the MN snaggletooth and the DBD Marauder. Check the backpack histories of first owners and you find nothing substantial there that indicates a fair trade with Swolejj.

    I would like to apologise to you for wrongly accusing you of Paypal scamming.

    Admins/mods, is it possible to change this report to Accomplice/Other Fraudulent Acts now?
  11. Chokollis(GR)

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    You are being really annoying and rude . My profile is this http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/383633
    Buying all the items , unusuals and other stuff for pure & i had checked the unusual through the backpack.tf , to see how many exist
    , his outpost profile was clean , so i bought it for 30 keys

    Buying quicksells unusuals - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18520754#latest
    Buds - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15814986#latest
    Max head - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17119490
    Headcase - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18519775
    Other stuff
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18785658
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17790178#latest

    So many Proofs , that i am not the person who not trying to make profit with this way
    I am user 2.5 years & i have over 3200 hours of tf2 gaming
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