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Accepted Report: 76561198061851012 (Werd Son? ) & 76561198065491888 (「Θ」TommY)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by ✤ Renhet, Jun 16, 2012.

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  1. ✤ Renhet

    ✤ Renhet New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:20919765
    Victim
    steamID: ✤ Renhet
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:20919765
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198002105259
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Renhet
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198002105259

    Scammer
    steamID: Werd Son?
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:50792642
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198061851012
    customURL:
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198061851012

    Scammer Accomplice
    steamID: 「Θ」TommY
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:52613080
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065491888
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/rthompsons
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198065491888


    Screenshots
    Initial chat with Werd Son? - http://i.imgur.com/Kefci.png
    Chat with his friend 「Θ」TommY - http://i.imgur.com/35xCM.png
    「Θ」TommY's profile - http://i.imgur.com/WHVYl.png

    Description
    I posted a trade on TF2outpost advertising a Service Medal and Bill's Hat for offers, including real world cash. Werd Son? added me almost instantly. His profile being private obviously made me suspicious. He offered up a "middleman", and that "middleman" had a suspiciously private profile as well. I did not do the trade.

    Werd Son? chat log
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    Saturday, June 16, 2012
    6:30 PM - Werd Son?: yo
    6:30 PM - ✤ Renhet: Hello
    6:30 PM - Werd Son?: 17$ on that bill?
    6:31 PM - ✤ Renhet: Yes.
    6:31 PM - ✤ Renhet: I have not before traded with real money; do we need a mediator?
    6:31 PM - Werd Son?: yeah, add him : http://steamcommunity.com/id/rthompon
    6:31 PM - Werd Son?: hes trusted from SteamRep.
    6:32 PM - ✤ Renhet: Is there a link somewhere of such?
    6:32 PM - Werd Son?: yeah, he will show you
    6:32 PM - Werd Son?: add him and he will talk
    6:32 PM - ✤ Renhet: all right
    6:35 PM - Werd Son?: also
    6:35 PM - Werd Son?: would u take 30$ for medal? :P
    6:36 PM - ✤ Renhet: Oh! That sounds good, yeah. c:
    6:36 PM - Werd Son?: sweet :D
    6:41 PM - ✤ Renhet: I'm a bit skeptical as both your profiles are private and it's taking a while to be shown any SteamRep; he offered word from one person and that isn't really safe.
    6:41 PM - Werd Son?: Hm.
    6:42 PM - Werd Son?: Well, it's on you man
    6:42 PM - ✤ Renhet: I would like to use http://steamcommunity.com/id/Yogurtt/
    6:42 PM - Werd Son?: if you dont feel safe then i dont
    6:42 PM - ✤ Renhet: as middleman
    6:42 PM - ✤ Renhet: Yogurt's profile and rep links are clearly visible
    6:43 PM - ✤ Renhet: So if we don't use Yogurt or somebody else with clearly visible reputation and profile, I don't think I want to do the trade.
    Werd Son? is now Offline.
    「Θ」TommY chat log
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    Never tell your password to anyone.
    Saturday, June 16, 2012
    6:33 PM - 「Θ」TommY: Hello how can i help you?
    6:33 PM - ✤ Renhet: I was told that you are a middleman for tricky game-cash trades?
    6:34 PM - 「Θ」TommY: hmmmm  i dont think i have any middle man appointments set up hold i i might have over looked
    6:34 PM - ✤ Renhet: All right
    6:35 PM - 「Θ」TommY: i have one set up a few seconds ago by a person of the name of werd son? is thatr who you are refering too?
    6:35 PM - ✤ Renhet: Yes, that's him.
    6:36 PM - ✤ Renhet: I was wondering if, please, I could see some examples of user ratings? It's my first trade of this nature and I would just like a sense of security.
    6:37 PM - 「Θ」TommY: all of this is conpletely comfodential this is what this is made for as we al know there are scammers/sharkers that like to steal and this provides a safe way for them to get the transfer of the items and cash
    6:38 PM - ✤ Renhet: Yes, but it does require a certain level of trust. I would like to see your SteamRep or something similarly credible.
    6:38 PM - 「Θ」TommY: i have a recent middleman user you could talk to if i could find his invoice
    6:39 PM - ✤ Renhet: I'd rather see SteamRep or similar credible source than have input from an individual.
    6:42 PM - 「Θ」TommY: i am a ROK admin and middle man i own Tommy's servers you may have played on them before
    6:42 PM - ✤ Renhet: I have not.
    6:42 PM - ✤ Renhet: I don't know what ROK is.
    6:43 PM - 「Θ」TommY: if you dont feel comfortable using me as a middle man its fine i know how you feel you dont wanna take chances
    6:44 PM - ✤ Renhet: You haven't presented any credible sources for your reputation as a middleman, so I do not feel comfortable using your service. Additionally, your profile as well as Werd Son's profile are private, which is suspicious. I am going to pass on your service.
    6:45 PM - 「Θ」TommY: all right man i hope you get what you are looking for
    6:45 PM - ✤ Renhet: Well, I offered Werd another middleman with clearly visible reputation and he removed me, so I'm going to have to assume you are a scammer pair.
    6:46 PM - 「Θ」TommY: i have no assoiaction with werd son i should be able to be added with out a certain link that is giving to use middle man services
    6:47 PM - ✤ Renhet: You need to present potential clients with reputation or something to give them security if you are middlemanning, and I have not seen any of it. If you are per chance legitimate, be careful how you present yourself, and keep a public profile.
    6:49 PM - 「Θ」TommY: i know most people that middle man wiht rok are aware of its services so they know the whole ROK cycle anyway sorry for wasting your time but if you dont mind me asking what was he "buying" it wasnt added to my request
    6:49 PM - ✤ Renhet: http://steamcommunity.com/id/rthompson/
    Yeah, you're an impostor.
    「Θ」TommY is now Offline.
    
  2. AcesGamer

    AcesGamer User

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    Both users are already marked, will add to their offenses.
    On a side note, who is this middleman you proposed to him? I've never heard of him myself, although that might just be me.

    The middleman was obviously impersonating a trusted SR middleman by the way.
    This is his real profile:
    http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197970351858
  3. TommY

    TommY Retired Staff

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    Wow that impersonator knows quite alot
  4. ✤ Renhet

    ✤ Renhet New User

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    Yeah, at the end of the chat with the impersonator, you can see I linked the real TommY's profile. The guy didn't have anything to hide except similar friendship, it may have been smarter for him to copy+paste TommY's profile text, but NOPE. Scammers are silly.

    The middleman I proposed is somebody who had offered on an old trade thread of mine, and I tried to find his profile and discovered he was a middleman. I'd never tried to find any through other means, but his profile seemed legit with SteamRep+, a rep thread and current trades all conveniently linked. I've not actually used him yet either, but it was the last shot I thought I'd try; lo and behold the scammer went offline.
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