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Accepted Report: 76561198049710502 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Carson0303, Sep 17, 2014.

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  1. Carson0303

    Carson0303 New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198049710502

    Victim profile: 76561198061540298

    What happened? Description:
    I was added by this person. He said he is interested in my whole tf2 backpack. So i said yes since i am gonna start playing cs go anyways.. So Of course we made the deal. He said he is going first. He got quite a lot of rep so i believed in him and imade a deal of him paying me 1200 Usd via paypal. A invoice did show up. it looked legit. He told me is a bank transfer and so i added his skype just to make sure. I waited for 24 hours and of course no money was being transferred into my account. and so I lost 1200 usd worth of items.​

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    I was added by this person. He said he is interested in my whole tf2 backpack. So i said yes since i am gonna start playing cs go anyways.. So Of course we made the deal. He said he is going first. He got quite a lot of rep so i believed in him and imade a deal of him paying me 1200 Usd via paypal. A invoice did show up. it looked legit. He told me is a bank transfer and so i added his skype just to make sure. I waited for 24 hours and of course no money was being transferred into my account. and so I lost 1200 usd worth of items. View attachment 139908 View attachment 139909 View attachment 139910 View attachment 139911 View attachment 139912 View attachment 139913

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  2. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    we made our trade and we +rep'ed each other after you checked. I have no idea what stunt your trying to pull here.

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  3. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    And also you removed me from your friends list -_-'
  4. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    Trade was made yesterday?
    And your chat is done today,offline 2 hours, no profile picture? You could have just made an alt look like me and set this entire bullshit up.
  5. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    According to you. I am a "random".
    There has been no physical contact before hand and you somehow know my real name when I only told you my real name in the skype chat when you asked me to add you on skype 2 days ago. As with everything except for services I require to put my real name by law, I never put my real name into any profiles i hold. I don't know how you could have known me beforehand, especially my real name which I will now ask to be blurred out for personal and security reasons.
  6. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    I also don't even live in Korea. Why would I talk about a comp in Korean when I don't even live there -_-

    Now i know that putting up fake countries does work when it comes to people who try to "accuse" some people (myself included) about scamming. If you have not realised yet, My Skype also says I live in Australia. Australian Phones cannot be called in South Korea without the use of a Korean Calling Card when they are "overseas" even with data roaming on.

    Your rep that was meant to be on my profile also explicitly states that "You sold your bp for 1200 US dollars" telling me that you received the payment and confirmed it before your trade with me. It was only 7 ~ 8 PM according to this so i doubt you would have been mistaken.

    Also, I do have a friend named "Jebby". Why would I ask a non-trader about good inventories? Surely I can Do It Myself?

    Also You Stated in the Rep "Very Patient". This conversation shows me that this is not in any shape or form of the apparent "me" being "patient". The conversation looks like It was done in a hurry (probably to synchronise the time) and that I was rushing you especially with the comment of "Just Accept It Now".

    Also Your Profile Description says to further prove my point:

    "1. i have been scammed so many times so i know the drill. The buyer should always be expected to go first while the one who pay cash most of the time will pay later. I have quite a lot of experience because if you check backpack.tf I cashed out all my items for 1200USD so it is a pretty nice trade as well."

    Also this is what makes the money.

    "3. In the invoice. ill make sure to type " Me steamid 64:76561198061540298 bought "items" off "steam id of the person" with "amount of cash" So if I report to paypal. Is almost 0 chance I'll be able to get my money back.
    4. All of my paypal transaction is done with bank transfers since is smoother and safer. So expect to wait for 24+ hours until you receive the cash"

    Somewhat The Same Way That You Claim That I "Scammed" You. Pure Coincidence or no?

    You Tell Me.

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  7. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    Forgot To Attach The Rep he gave before he promptly deleted and removed me from his friends list.

    Rep was also given 2 hours and 50 minutes after the trade. Plenty Of Time to confirm that you received the payment.

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  8. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    He Accepted My Add And I Asked Specific Questions. Forgive My Harshness but I wanted his defence against my claims. He is continuously going off topic and also I believe he may be referring to my FaceBook with my phone number extracted from Skype.

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  9. Carson0303

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    honestly b✿✿✿✿ please. If i would've made a alt to do it. when you added me the conversation should not be connected to each other. it will be a separate conversation not including our messages last night. The reason I know your real name First. it is on the paypal Scam invoice you sent me and also the reason why I made the "1. i have been scammed so many times so i know the drill. The buyer should always be expected to go first while the one who pay cash most of the time will pay later. I have quite a lot of experience because if you check backpack.tf I cashed out all my items for 1200USD so it is a pretty nice trade as well." is because I thought i will have the money until the invoice disappeared in my paypal. I have my trade history up on paypal as well paypal won't lie. On the skype conversation (not sure if it can proof anything) you said
    [9/16/2014 8:12:38 PM] Carson0404: bro
    [9/16/2014 8:12:43 PM] 배신기린: yes?
    [9/16/2014 8:12:52 PM] Carson0404: but mah parents said paypal transfers should be instat
    [9/16/2014 8:13:03 PM] 배신기린: its a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ bank transfer
    [9/16/2014 8:13:25 PM] Carson0404: but is a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ gift
    [9/16/2014 8:13:27 PM] Carson0404: says there
    [9/16/2014 8:13:41 PM] 배신기린: sent as a gift but money has to leave my f✿✿✿✿✿✿ bank wire
    [9/16/2014 8:13:51 PM] Carson0404: alright
    [9/16/2014 8:13:53 PM] 배신기린: its 10 o clock of course it won't send instantly
    [9/16/2014 8:13:54 PM] Carson0404: ill believ you
    [9/16/2014 8:13:58 PM] Carson0404: just making sure
    [9/16/2014 8:14:02 PM] 배신기린: in your place
    [9/16/2014 8:14:05 PM] Carson0404: i dont want to make sure
    [9/16/2014 8:14:08 PM] Carson0404: i eman
    [9/16/2014 8:14:10 PM] Carson0404: psss
    [9/16/2014 8:14:10 PM] 배신기린: you dont?

    you said is at 10 so the money wont send instantly. From what you just said. Is clear that i would be expected to wait until next day to be able to get my money.

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  10. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    Explain Why TimeCode's Haven't Transferred. They should be transferred across. I call Photoshop Right There.
  11. Carson0303

    Carson0303 New User

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    You also do know that if a person unfriends you there will be no more profile picture right?? Also... telling me that I assumed you received the payment just means that you actually are the one who traded me so it doesn't mean that i just made up and alt and just make all he nonsense up.
    also from this tf2outpost item history it is clear that I handed the item to you and so it's just proven that i did not make up this
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,2965067280,139,5

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  12. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    What the f✿✿✿ does this have to do with anything I have just said? ^

    Profile Pictures Don't Get Removed When Someone Unfriends You. It Stays There. In The Case Your Right, Everyone will be rioting at Valve Software. Think about what in the Good Lord you are saying.
  13. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    I Never Denied That We Did The Trade.
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    Chocolate New User

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    Also My Skype And Steam Profile Look Too Conveniently The Same.
  15. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    Not Just That. You Saw My Payment with your own Eyes through The Skype Share Screen. What More Evidence Do You Need?
  16. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    No They Do Not Disappear. I Tried An Experiment Today With A "unrelated" Trader I Know.

    Proof Shown Below. Nice Try There.

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    Carson0303 New User

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    May i please ask... If tf2 item history says that it is in your backpack than where is it?? Is not anywhere in you backpack when i checked it.
  18. Carson0303

    Carson0303 New User

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    And also.Could you please include a paypal history saying that money is sent to my account and is clear that i accepted it??
  19. SilentReaper(SR)

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    1. stop the bickering.
    2. @Carson0303 : make a screenshot of the "invoice" you where send. That should still be accessible for you to see.
    3. @Chocolate: If payment was done, you would be able to prove it by providing screenshots. I understand you don't like to show private info, so I'll open a PM to you so you can provide that to me about this so that won't be publicly available.

    Nothing of the report will be removed/hidden till this report has had its course. The accused has requested to have screenshots and other materials showing personal info to be hidden.

    Now. Couple things I'm going to tell the BOTH of you:

    Screenshots of chat must show the FULL window of the chat, not a partial.

    Screenshots of steam profiles or its content on Steam must show:
    - The content within the STEAM browser (in other words, not IE, Safari, Chrome, Firefox or w/e else)
    - Must show the URL in the top (settings in steam to enable)
    - Must not be edited in any way.
    - Can be a cropped shot to exclude the login name and steam balance that is in the top right.

    Screenshots of browser content must show the full URL bar, and if the site has the extended certificate, it must show it.

    Established:
    - The items where traded from the reporter to the accused (said so by the reporter and the accused).
    - payment required of 1200 USD.

    Not established:
    - Payment information from both parties.

    Point of critique:
    Why all in 1 go? what was the hurry? just do trades of say couple hundred, and wait for payment, and do the next etc. is nothing unusual.

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  20. Chocolate

    Chocolate New User

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    I Forgot To Add -_-'

    "Your" Items Are Currently In A SteamRep MiddleMan's BackPack By The Name Of Xeno-Pilot.

    Link Here: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198020525488/
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