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Discussion in 'Pre-2017 Reports' started by Ice Wølƒ, Jan 4, 2015.

  1. Ice Wølƒ

    Ice Wølƒ New User

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    Steam:
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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198150351019

    Victim profile: 76561198054184223

    What happened? Description:
    He said he was willing to buy items from my backpack on tf2 for paypal money, convinced me that he changed and is not a scammer, but didn't convince me to put all the items he wanted in the trade. I gave him a sf force of nature and a sf bonk atomic punch for supposed to be 6.50 USD but he never went through with it even though he said he did. This user has NOT changed is a scammer​

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    I'm Homer: Hey
    Ice Wølƒ: hi
    I'm Homer: I saw your comment on my trade.
    Ice Wølƒ: how are you
    I'm Homer: I'm good
    I'm Homer: you ?
    Ice Wølƒ: what comment?
    Ice Wølƒ: I've been beter
    I'm Homer: you want sell something
    I'm Homer: if i'm interested
    Ice Wølƒ: this guy just tried to scam me
    I'm Homer: what?
    I'm Homer: Which guy? What?
    (I entered my chat between me and calibura, someone who tried to scam me)
    Ice Wølƒ: which ones and what are you offering
    Ice Wølƒ: alright
    Ice Wølƒ: it appears that you have more paypal rep then I do, but I am a trustable man and would like you to go first
    Ice Wølƒ: I knew it was too good to be true
    Ice Wølƒ: anyways, would you like anything (or everything :D) from my tf2 backpack?
    I'm Homer: wait i'm reading.
    I'm Homer: nmhm
    I'm Homer: mhm*
    I'm Homer: well let me check your backpack.
    I'm Homer: btw do you own any console?
    Ice Wølƒ: like?
    I'm Homer: PS3/PS4 or XboX360/XboX One
    Ice Wølƒ: no, all I have is a wii, and that thing sucks
    I'm Homer: I got wii too
    I'm Homer: it's not bad...
    I'm Homer: well kinda
    Ice Wølƒ: well I can't play the new smash on it though
    I'm Homer: i don't play it much
    I'm Homer: i play playstation
    I'm Homer: Finally your inventory loaded
    I'm Homer: ^^
    I'm Homer: Well i'm buying some expensive items as you saw my offer... Which items are so expensive in your backpack?
    I'm Homer: If you don't know, i could check them.
    Ice Wølƒ: strange festives
    Ice Wølƒ: I have the full 2012 set
    I'm Homer: mhm
    I'm Homer: wow
    Ice Wølƒ: sorry, multitasking, reporting calibur
    I'm Homer: okay x)
    I'm Homer: Ubersaw, Force, Buff, Amba, Holy, Bow?
    I'm Homer: These are from 2012?
    Ice Wølƒ: yes
    I'm Homer: mhm
    I'm Homer: second.
    Ice Wølƒ: and I have the sf scatter, sf bat
    I'm Homer: i don't see bat
    I'm Homer: or scatter.
    I'm Homer: another account?
    Ice Wølƒ: tons of vintage scout hats, full vintage set (except for concheror and fan of war and shortstop)
    Ice Wølƒ: no, its there
    I'm Homer: I don't see bat
    Ice Wølƒ: It's there
    Ice Wølƒ: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054184223
    Ice Wølƒ: middle of page 15
    I'm Homer: wait
    I'm Homer: this must be some
    I'm Homer: wait...
    I'm Homer: my internet must be so bad
    I'm Homer: or steam is lagging again,
    I'm Homer: i see it on page
    I'm Homer: more items
    I'm Homer: but on steam nothing.
    I'm Homer: special
    Ice Wølƒ: tf2 items arn't loading right today
    I'm Homer: Second
    I'm Homer: Now your inv loading again
    I'm Homer: hope it find
    I'm Homer: aha
    I'm Homer: i found error
    I'm Homer: Some items are showing as black
    Ice Wølƒ: we can do this tomarrow if you would like?
    I'm Homer: I mean
    I'm Homer: items i see all
    I'm Homer: but like 20 of them are black
    I'm Homer: can you trade me?
    You have accepted the trade request from I'm Homer.
    I'm Homer: let me check your backpack.tf backpack again. So i can see expensivest items
    I'm Homer: aha
    I'm Homer: so i see
    I'm Homer: scatter and bat
    I'm Homer: are expensivest
    I'm Homer: well i think i could take them.
    I'm Homer: First
    I'm Homer: how much do you want for them?
    I'm Homer: Then i will Agree or do another offer
    Ice Wølƒ: would you just be willing to buy my backpack, full 2012 sf set and full vintage set aswell as those two?
    I'm Homer: hmmm
    I'm Homer: vintages... i don't know
    I'm Homer: but i thinked about that set
    I'm Homer: and i think i take set
    I'm Homer: let me think about vintages
    Ice Wølƒ: alright
    Ice Wølƒ: take your time
    I'm Homer: but too vintages same?
    I'm Homer: like you got 5 vintage razorbacks
    Ice Wølƒ: yea
    I'm Homer: so you give me 1 or 5?
    Ice Wølƒ: you'll get everything
    I'm Homer: Because i don't need so much
    I'm Homer: you really wanna sell everything?
    Ice Wølƒ: I do
    I'm Homer: I tought you could keep some vintages
    I'm Homer: but okay.
    Ice Wølƒ: but if you dont want to then it's fine
    Ice Wølƒ: I can sell specific item if that's what your intrested in
    Ice Wølƒ: brb
    I'm Homer: okay
    I'm Homer: second choosing items
    I'm Homer: You want to add to set too festives non-strange?
    I'm Homer: chat me when you get back.
    I'm Homer: btw is that your dog on your profile picture? Nice dog :D
    I'm Homer: I got 2 Jack-Russel Terrier's...
    Ice Wølƒ: yep thats my dog, thank you. I have the 2011 festive (non strange) set
    Ice Wølƒ: I gtg, I'm really sorry
    Ice Wølƒ: I will be online tomarrow to contenue this
    I'm Homer: It's okay.
    I'm Homer: Okay.
    I'm Homer: When you get online?
    I'm Homer: I wake up as soon as i can if you wanna do it morning
    Ice Wølƒ: 8 ish Central standard time
    I'm Homer: 08:00?
    Ice Wølƒ: yes
    Ice Wølƒ: gtg, sorry dude
    I'm Homer: Well it's so fast for me. But i'l try x)
    I'm Homer: okay
    I'm Homer: see ya!
    I'm Homer is now Offline.
    Your state is set to Offline.
    Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained.
    Connected again and rejoined chat.
    I'm Homer is now Busy.
    I'm Homer: hey.
    I'm Homer: When you get here, Chat me
    I'm Homer: I'm going to play GTA5. My computer volume was set to 100. So i can hear when you send me message. Chat me when you get here ^^
    Ice Wølƒ: hello
    I'm Homer: hey
    I'm Homer: sorry i'm busy with trading now
    Ice Wølƒ: that's fine
    I'm Homer: can you wait 12 minutes please?
    Ice Wølƒ: sure
    I'm Homer: thank you,
    Ice Wølƒ: your welcome
    I'm Homer: alright
    I'm Homer: i'm done
    Ice Wølƒ: you are going first
    Ice Wølƒ: no matter what
    I'm Homer: well did you read rules?
    Ice Wølƒ: just needed to make that clear
    Ice Wølƒ: I did
    I'm Homer: It said you go first
    Ice Wølƒ: but then I saw your steam rep profile
    Ice Wølƒ: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198150351019-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.84387/
    I'm Homer: Yes i know this...
    I'm Homer: But then i stopped
    Ice Wølƒ: I dont buy it
    I'm Homer: Because i saw what i did
    I'm Homer: and i had bad heart
    I'm Homer: well sorry but with paypal i will not go first
    Ice Wølƒ: it will stick with you forever
    I'm Homer: you know what happened when i went first?
    Ice Wølƒ: do you want to use a middleman?
    I'm Homer: hmmm
    Ice Wølƒ: https://steamrep.com/list/M
    I'm Homer: no it's okay.
    I'm Homer: but i got proof why i cannot go first
    Ice Wølƒ: proove it
    I'm Homer: 1. i went first 5 times, And they stolen my money
    Ice Wølƒ: then
    I'm Homer: they stoleen like 350+$
    I'm Homer: I was so mad.
    Ice Wølƒ: well I have proof why I shouldn't go first, I almost got scammed yesterday and you have bad rep
    I'm Homer: All was from my work
    I'm Homer: i saw that. I'm sorry.
    I'm Homer: And i got proof why i wanted scam that other guy.
    I'm Homer: Because they too
    I'm Homer: scammed me
    I'm Homer: they stoled me big kill
    Ice Wølƒ: It's just an excuse
    I'm Homer: you know that weapon?
    I'm Homer: i know... but i didn't find way how to get it back. Then admins gaved me it
    I'm Homer: i was so happy.
    I'm Homer: So this is my story about how was i scammed.
    Ice Wølƒ: alright,
    I'm Homer: Just never trade steam money
    I'm Homer: never.
    Ice Wølƒ: you know what you said with that one guy... you said your excuse was that your friend was scammed, not you
    Ice Wølƒ: now I've caught you in a lie
    I'm Homer: what?
    Ice Wølƒ: get your story straight
    I'm Homer: What you mean?
    I'm Homer: my friend?
    Ice Wølƒ: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198150351019-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.84387/
    Ice Wølƒ: at the bottom you said your friend was scammed, not you
    I'm Homer: Yes i was saying some bullshits. You didn't know what means stolen big kill...
    I'm Homer: and yea i was saying bullshits.
    Ice Wølƒ: unless you go first, there is no way I'm doing this
    I'm Homer: Then sorry i cannot help you :(
    Ice Wølƒ: unless you want to use a trusted middleman
    I'm Homer: i cannot go first
    I'm Homer: you can took my money
    Ice Wølƒ: which I'm fine with
    Ice Wølƒ: https://steamrep.com/list/M
    I'm Homer: Well i'm good.
    I'm Homer: i don't need middleman
    Ice Wølƒ: so if you're not willing to use amiddleman
    I'm Homer: mhm
    Ice Wølƒ: what is there to lose from it, that's additional proof that I can't trust you
    Ice Wølƒ: I'm not going to report you, but I know that you would've scamed me
    I'm Homer: Well i wouldn't.
    Ice Wølƒ: and I'm sick of this... this is why I can not no matter what go first
    I'm Homer: i done now good and succesfull trades with paypal
    Ice Wølƒ: then why not use a TRUSTED middleman
    Ice Wølƒ: d2t middle man
    I'm Homer: let's use. But remember
    I'm Homer: i will not
    I'm Homer: go
    Ice Wølƒ: bbg admin bbf middleman
    I'm Homer: first
    Ice Wølƒ: I can give my stuff to a middleman
    I'm Homer: mhm
    Ice Wølƒ: then once it comes through, he will give my stuff to you
    I'm Homer: wait i don't understand...
    I'm Homer: you mean
    I'm Homer: you give him your items
    Ice Wølƒ: I have never used a middleman, but that's how I imagine it to work
    Ice Wølƒ: I give him my items
    I'm Homer: yes?
    I'm Homer: i too never used it
    I'm Homer: me too*
    Ice Wølƒ: you give him (or me I dont know) the money
    Ice Wølƒ: then he gives you the items once I got the money or he got it
    I'm Homer: so i have to go first??
    Ice Wølƒ: no
    Ice Wølƒ: I give my stuff first
    Ice Wølƒ: then you give the paypal
    I'm Homer: mhm
    Ice Wølƒ: then he gives you the stuff
    I'm Homer: So he gives stuff first, I give paypal, then he gives stuff?
    I'm Homer: I don't understand o_O
    Ice Wølƒ: I give stuff to the middleman, you give stuff to me the middleman gives my once stuff to you
    I'm Homer: aha so let's say it that: You give him stuff, he give me stuff, i give paypal?
    I'm Homer: Oh my god my head hurt
    Ice Wølƒ: no, you are in the center
    Ice Wølƒ: you give paypal
    Ice Wølƒ: after I give him stuff but before he gives you stuf
    Ice Wølƒ: f
    I'm Homer: What if he take money and give you items back?
    I'm Homer: I cannot take risk sorry.
    Ice Wølƒ: okay
    Ice Wølƒ: so your saying a tf2 varified middleman with no reports
    Ice Wølƒ: will steal from me?
    I'm Homer: Well who knows
    I'm Homer: some guys do
    I'm Homer: like i joined raffle
    I'm Homer: Entry is 5 kkeys or $
    I'm Homer: i gaved many $
    I'm Homer: he was trusted
    I'm Homer: then
    Ice Wølƒ: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197975564454'
    I'm Homer: i was winner
    I'm Homer: and he took my money
    I'm Homer: good huh?
    Ice Wølƒ: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197975564454
    Ice Wølƒ: okay, you scam people and refuse to use a middleman
    Ice Wølƒ: I"m sick of this
    Ice Wølƒ: honestly debaiting reporting you
    I'm Homer: I scammed only ONCE
    I'm Homer: Report me for no reason
    I'm Homer: But i never scammed via paypal
    I'm Homer: that i can promise.
    Ice Wølƒ: cause you want to do a trade
    Ice Wølƒ: but are refusing to use a trusted middleman or go first
    I'm Homer: I know but you wasn't scammed for 350$+
    I'm Homer: you know how hard it is?
    I'm Homer: Your heart just feels sad and never want to do it
    I'm Homer: 350$+ is alot of money.
    Ice Wølƒ: I understand
    Ice Wølƒ: how about we do this in little parts
    Ice Wølƒ: so if/when you scam me you dont gain much
    Ice Wølƒ: and I dont lose much
    I'm Homer: hmmmm
    I'm Homer: so you mean
    I'm Homer: You give some item cost low
    I'm Homer: and we going to do it that small?
    I'm Homer: i mean
    Ice Wølƒ: I mean
    I'm Homer: 1 after 1
    Ice Wølƒ: nevermind
    Ice Wølƒ: too much work
    I'm Homer: I know what you mean.
    Ice Wølƒ: I'm done waisting time with this
    I'm Homer: You give low price item, I give low money
    I'm Homer: that's it?
    I'm Homer: hello that's it?
    Ice Wølƒ: that would be the idea, but that's too much effort to make sure it all adds up
    Ice Wølƒ: and I'd still be going first and can't trust that
    I'm Homer: It's hard loosing 350$... I cannot go first
    I'm Homer: only second
    I'm Homer: but we can do it as you said
    I'm Homer: Low item, Low money
    I'm Homer: alright. what is your paypal email?
    Ice Wølƒ: *paypal account*
    Ice Wølƒ: yours?
    I'm Homer: [email protected]
    I'm Homer: alright i'm ready to send low money for low item
    You have accepted the trade request from I'm Homer.
    Ice Wølƒ: you are paying fees
    I'm Homer: yes
    I'm Homer: all fees
    Ice Wølƒ: what do you want?
    I'm Homer: Well i liked Strange Festives.
    I'm Homer: I don't need vintages
    I'm Homer: I thinked about them at night
    I'm Homer: Show me which you can sell
    I'm Homer: Strange Festives.
    Ice Wølƒ: for now
    I'm Homer: mhm
    Ice Wølƒ: then I'll sell the others
    Ice Wølƒ: if it goes through
    I'm Homer: How much do you want for them?
    I'm Homer: first your offer
    I'm Homer: then i would accept / decline
    I'm Homer: decline = my offer
    I'm Homer: and i got one too more offer... If you would like to keep festives, I was most interested in bat or scatter. but it's on you.
    Ice Wølƒ: 7$ for those 2 sound okay
    I'm Homer: hmmm
    I'm Homer: Well bonk doesn't have a price
    I'm Homer: and force cost 2.5 keys i think
    Ice Wølƒ: its worth slightly more then a key
    I'm Homer: aha
    I'm Homer: hmmm
    I'm Homer: i thinked aabout some discount. 6.50$?
    Ice Wølƒ: fine
    I'm Homer: alright.
    Ice Wølƒ: we'll do this trade in a little while
    Ice Wølƒ: sorry
    I'm Homer: okay.
    Ice Wølƒ: I'll be back in a little
    I'm Homer: I got time
    I'm Homer: okay
    Ice Wølƒ: but for now we can discuss everything else
    Ice Wølƒ: are you okay with buying my backpack or just my hats sf's and vintages?
    Ice Wølƒ: or what?
    Ice Wølƒ: nvm gtg, I'll be back later
    I'm Homer: ok
    Ice Wølƒ: just know if you scam me, I can easily report you
    I'm Homer: well i think i wanted only scatter and bat
    I'm Homer: Yes report me. I never scammed with paypal
    I'm Homer: I am truusted with paypal. This is all i can say.
    Ice Wølƒ: well by this point, if I'm going first, thats the only thing you can lose by scaming me, so I have to prove that I can do that threat I just said
    I'm Homer: Yes i promise. Never tried scam with paypal.
    I'm Homer: Want proof? Check my profile and comments. I done some trades with paypal
    Ice Wølƒ: you only have four comments
    I'm Homer: I know. Not much trading
    I'm Homer: but at least traded something
    I'm Homer: Some guys didn't + rep me
    Ice Wølƒ: alright, I gtg, bbl we can finish this when I return
    I'm Homer: okay.
    I'm Homer: Wait i need cancel trade. One guy just added me
    I'm Homer: Alright. I just got buds, Let's sell em for $.
    I'm Homer: Nice. Just made some profit. Sold buds for 32$ x)
    I'm Homer has accepted your request to trade.
    I'm Homer: Is profit buds 32$ good?
    I'm Homer: i just made :D
    Ice Wølƒ: IDK
    Ice Wølƒ: I havn't cheeked the price in a while
    I'm Homer: my paypal is raised nice
    I'm Homer: x)
    Ice Wølƒ: you are adding 6.50 to my account
    I'm Homer: yes.
    Ice Wølƒ: what is my account?
    Ice Wølƒ: do you recall?
    I'm Homer: i got your account
    I'm Homer: is your account *My paypal account* right?
    Ice Wølƒ: yes
    I'm Homer: alright then it's all okay.
    I'm Homer: alright i'm ready transfer money.
    Ice Wølƒ: then do so
    I'm Homer: okay transfering...
    I'm Homer: Second...
    I'm Homer: okay you got them.
    I'm Homer: Did you get them?
    Ice Wølƒ: wait
    Ice Wølƒ: I'm having a hard time getting on my account
    Ice Wølƒ: using my iphone here
    I'm Homer: What you mean?
    I'm Homer: aha
    Ice Wølƒ: just wait
    Ice Wølƒ: signing in
    I'm Homer: okay
    Ice Wølƒ: alright i'm in
    I'm Homer: mhm
    Ice Wølƒ: just waiting for it to come through
    I'm Homer: got money?
    Ice Wølƒ: no
    Ice Wølƒ: still hasn't come through
    I'm Homer: What a
    I'm Homer: I sent you
    I'm Homer: Already
    Ice Wølƒ: just wait
    I'm Homer: YOu sure your email is *my paypal account*?
    Ice Wølƒ: and do NOT log off
    I'm Homer: I didn't
    Ice Wølƒ: *My paypal account just as he entered above* is correct
    I'm Homer: I sent money there
    I'm Homer: wait brb
    I'm Homer is now Offline.​

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  2. Hello there! Can you please upload the screenshots of:

    Uncropped Chat Agreement (Yes, you gave it but you only gave one part of it and it's cropped.)
    1 Month Paypal History (To prove that he didn't send the money.)

    Please upload them via "Upload a File" button. Thanks!
  3. Ice Wølƒ

    Ice Wølƒ New User

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    Steam:
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    I do not know how to access exited chats, but if someone tells me, I would be glad to access it and screenshot everything to share it. Here is the Paypal proof, sorry that I was unable to get on for a while.

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