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Invalid 76561197990564831 (Keron)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by W. Willy, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. W. Willy

    W. Willy New User

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    Victims:

    1) steamID: W. Willy
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:29707215
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019680159
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Wet_Willy
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198019680159

    2) steamID: AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:50887954
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198062041636
    customURL:
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198062041636

    Scrammer:

    steamID: Keron
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:15149551
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197990564831
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Keron
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197990564831

    Screenshots:

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    http://imageshack.us/f/853/scammer3u.png/
    http://imageshack.us/f/98/scammer4.png/

    Description:

    This guy Keron got 2 offers on tf2outpost (http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3255310) on his Unusual Dapper Topper. He added both on Steam. At first he told AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra, that I made Keron an offer of 28 keys (and I didn't do that). Then he told me, that the guy AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra made an offer of 29 keys. Later, AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra added me on Steam and prooved this is a lie. So this guy lied to both us to easily raise the price up to 30 keys. I have the screenshot of 2 sonversations: me and Keron, AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra and Keron.

    Code:
    Keron: hi
    W. Willy: Hi
    W. Willy: I've made an offer on your unusual dapper topper, but you didn't react
    Keron: im not in outpost 24/7
    Keron: sorry
    W. Willy: ok
    W. Willy: i'll say here
    Keron: thats why i prefer when people add me
    Keron: i will check it out
    W. Willy: i offered 10 keys, white bill's and 14 ref
    Keron: ah yes
    W. Willy: this is 25+ key
    W. Willy: s
    Keron: yea i got a earbud offer already
    W. Willy: it's more than a bud, isn't it?
    Keron: earbuds are 25 to 26 keys
    W. Willy: oh
    W. Willy: i can borrow some keys from my friends i guess
    W. Willy: do you have a b/o?
    Keron: yea
    Keron: 1.5 buds is buy out
    W. Willy: too much :(
    Keron: well
    Keron: you can offer more
    Keron: than bud
    W. Willy: and for how much would you sell it?
    W. Willy: how much time before the trade ends?
    Keron: i wil ldecide tomorrow
    Keron: for the best offer
    Keron: like
    Keron: 14 hours
    W. Willy: so in 14 hrs?
    Keron: yeah
    Keron: or when i think its fair enough
    Keron: how much keys you could borrow ?
    W. Willy: I'll ask a friend
    W. Willy: How much keys would ne enough to add?
    W. Willy: I'm still looking for some
    Keron: just tell me your offer
    Keron: in keys
    W. Willy: i have white bills, 10 keys and 14 ref atm
    Keron: yea but how many extra keys you can get ?
    W. Willy: i dunno
    W. Willy: didn't find a guy yet
    Keron: ..
    Keron: well
    Keron: i got other guy too
    Keron: and he likes to know ?
    W. Willy: how much can he add?
    Keron: he can add to
    Keron: 29 keys
    W. Willy: so
    W. Willy: i need 5-6 keys
    Keron: yep
    Keron: yea so
    Keron: then 30 keys
    Keron: it´s settled
    Keron: Reserved for you
    W. Willy: so would white bills, 14 ref and 15 keys work?
    Keron: yea
    W. Willy: ok, thanks. I'll try to get some
    Keron: okay cool
    Keron: poke me then
    W. Willy: i think 30 keys is too much
    W. Willy: next time may be
    W. Willy: sell it to the guy, who offered 29
    Keron: he deleted me already -.-
    W. Willy: so i will offer lower
    Keron: how much
    W. Willy: if this guy retreats the offer of 1 bud
    W. Willy: I offer the same thing as before
    
    Code:
    Keron: hello
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: hi
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: sorry
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: i was afk a while
    Keron: hi
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: U had something to say? ^^
    Keron: yea
    Keron: i do
    Keron: some dude offers like more
    Keron: than you do
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: D:
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: Who? :o
    Keron: W. Willy
    Keron: if you have to know
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: and how much is it?
    Keron: 1 moment
    Keron: like
    Keron: 28 keys
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: uhh
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: is it that offer on the thread?
    Keron: yea it is but i told him about you
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: or did he offer more?
    Keron: then he increased it
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: uhh
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: im afraid i wont go 29 keys
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: D:
    Keron: its a sexy hat
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: Yes i know
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: but i will still have to pay for the black paint too
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: + keys
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: 2 keys*
    Keron: it´s your move
    Keron: make your move
    Keron: make your move
    Keron: it´s a sexy hat
    Keron: make your move
    Keron: it´s your move
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: I like the hat but i wont go 29 sorry
    Keron: i could do 28 pure keys
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: U can sell it to Willy then ^^
    Keron: yea i will
    Keron: probrably
    Keron: for like 30 keys
    Keron: i told him you offer 29
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: Sure... Im afraid i wont go that high
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: lol?
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: thats not fair
    Keron: thats bussiness
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: without my permission :o
    Keron: yea i know you want it
    Keron: so he raised
    Keron: I play alot of poker so
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: lol wtf?
    Keron: I know when people Raise
     AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: i dont want it 29
    Keron: yea i know
    Keron: he thinks you want it
    Keron: = demand
    Keron: he offers more
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: i cud just contact him and tell him your lieing?
    Keron: yea
    Keron: then you are b✿✿✿✿ again
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: lol
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: Im trying to fight scammers u see?
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: AF2 is pretty much a community to fight scammers
    Keron: yea scammers take items
    Keron: i sell  them
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: But u didnt ask for permission to say 29
    Keron: I never told him you offered 29
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: U just said that lol
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: ''Keron: i told him you offer 29
    ''
    Keron: well
    Keron: I said some dude offered 29
    Keron: to him
    Keron: so its not even you if you think about it
    Keron: i could tell you are a scammer too
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: How?
    Keron: if people are scammers so easy
    Keron: you offered 22 keys for my hat
    Keron: even tho its 1.3 to 1.6 buds
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: It was just a offer?
    Keron: yea extreme lowball
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: Because one of my friends said its 22 Keys
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: so i belived him
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: D:
    Keron: dosent matter
    Keron: however i dont want to talk about that
    Keron: no need to be bitchin
    Keron: thats all
    Keron: wait how much was your offer ?
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: 1 bud
    
  2. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    First of all .. how is this scam ? .. even if you take the hat for 30 keys you are in profit since the hat is 1.5 buds .. ?

    secondly .. I know Hydra sent you here..

    I could report you from outpost for lowballing then ?

    That´s just stupid..


    (I haven´t even sold this hat lol )
  3. W. Willy

    W. Willy New User

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    You were trying to raase the price by saying about offers, that don't exist.
  4. SMOKABLES

    SMOKABLES New User

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    Thats not necessarily a scam, however, its more dishonest trading. Which you can be marked for on steamrep.
  5. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    All kinds of trading with profit is dishonest ... if you think about that ... what thoose screenshots of hydra show is simple backstabing and / or wish to mark me on steamrep as a scammer... I have been selling items for like 2 years now . i got alot of nice customer friends who know i get profit for selling it to them .. they are not reporting me for gaining profit .
  6. SMOKABLES

    SMOKABLES New User

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    Making profit isnt the same as faking an offer to get people to bid higher.
  7. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    Maybe ... however i hope i wont get marked for this .. that would be silly ... And i don´t really want to reply do this post ever again.
  8. SMOKABLES

    SMOKABLES New User

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  9. AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra

    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra New User

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    1st: I never deleted you from f-list as you said to Willy. (You did.)

    2nd: After you saw this thread here, you got mad at me and said you never said it was me you were talking about who was offering 29 keys.

    Code:
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: I like the hat but i wont go 29 sorry
    Keron: i could do 28 pure keys
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: U can sell it to Willy then ^^
    Keron: yea i will
    Keron: probrably
    Keron: for like 30 keys
    Keron: i told him you offer 29
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: Sure... Im afraid i wont go that high
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: lol?
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: thats not fair
    Keron: thats bussiness
    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra: without my permission :o
    Keron: yea i know you want it
    That explains it pretty well that u lied again.

    3rd: I helped Willy to not pay more than he is supposed to. And I told him you are a liar.
  10. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    whatever man , i blocked you both
  11. HAK

    HAK New User

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    disgusting to put words in other's mouth, yes people do it discretely but you have a REPUTATION to uphold.

    what's even worse, we were busy DEFENDING your profile a few days ago from some dumb ass who decided to impersonate you.
  12. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    Damn, I never tought it will go like that i had no idea AF2-Hydra would screw me over like that ...

    however I appricate that you were defending my profile yes..And i had to deal with few of the people who got scammed by impersonator too..
    I had to direct them so they see i was not scamming them..

    I was just looking for offer i would actually sell this hat and now this s✿✿✿ happend...

    but i find this post so false because i was not scamming actually Scamming is like if you take the f✿✿✿✿✿✿ money / stuff and fun the f✿✿✿ away..

    I have done serveral middleman translitions and have sold so many stuff idk this post is such a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ dissapointment.
  13. AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra

    AF2 | ๖ۣۜHydra New User

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    Why did you lie? You could have gotten away from this if you wouldn't have lied or done some dishonest trading.

    Own fault.

    I did what I had to do, I told Willy your lying. Nothing else.

    P.S I heard you've been reported 3 times these last weeks.
  14. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    I was reported because there was an impersonator out there.

    and it was not dishonest trading , it was "trying to get the offer you like and sell the f✿✿✿✿✿✿ hat " witch i did!

    btw hydra... Strong lowballing is dishonest trading too.. and you lied me that some admin told me this hat is 22 keys .. that´s dishonest trading aswell!!

    I even blocked you for the first time since i didn´t want to make any bussiness with you and you started moaning that u want it so badly .. then i unblocked you .. so tehnically its all your fault!
  15. Skipper

    Skipper Partner Community

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    Keron. Fake offers isn't "business". That's complete lying. You shouldn't lie about current offer or even put words in others people's mouths. You wait until you get a legitimate offer. This is one very dishonest trader. I think a caution tag is needed here.
  16. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    I think you have no rights to call me dishonest since you have a valve problamation...

    This is the first time I have ever "put words in others people´s mouths" because i rarely trade with items or when i do i usually get 1 offer at a time...
    I even had no idea you can report other people for something like this .. because it´s not a scam..

    I have got scammed and i even lost 400$ in chargeback lol .. Thats a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ scam.. When somebody sents you money and then takes it back.. or does some other kind of s✿✿✿..

    So bascially i had no idea that you can even report anyone for this...Reason i even told hydra about it , i tought hes like .. lol man.. but no he reported me!
  17. Skipper

    Skipper Partner Community

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    AS I said. Caution tag is needed. We know you didn't scam. You completely lied and got caught. People who shark lie. So you are pretty much categorized with them.

    Off Topic: First it's probation. Not problamation and there is no need to bring my trade probation into this. If you read my profile you can clearly read that someone falsely reported me. Sorry to get off topic but just wanted to say it.
  18. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    Then hydra himself should be reported too!

    He offered (über lowball) and told me some admin said that my hat is 22 keys He lied to me aswell = sharking !

    Getting marked with caution / scammer for this would be just ✿✿✿✿✿✿ed.

    And I didn´t lie since i told the hydra that i did so , I trusted him but he reported me.

    Sharking is like .. for example you give someone 1 wepon and say its the rarest weapon in whole game and get unusual for it..

    and i told Willie that some dude offered 28 keys ( and indeed did , reason i got it sold after all ) but Also i was trading between willie and hydra witch made this whole thread..
    and now you all look at me like I am a scammer .. even tho the hat is worth even more than 28 keys! also this whole post is just full of bullshit and pure dissapointment.
  19. Keron -195€ left to go!

    Keron -195€ left to go! New User

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    Ahhhh f✿✿✿ it ... I stop replying here and increase the flame .. just f✿✿✿ it and will see what happens...
  20. ForteSP

    ForteSP New User

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    Personally, what I see here is straight up deceptive trading... LYING. I think a tag of some sort is deserved here.