Archived Report: 76561198073900449 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulant behavior
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198073900449

Victim profile: 76561198113239993

What happened? Description:

I was joining a earbud raffle, bought about 180 slots, with 10 keys, and he was 100% i was gonna win
I asked for a refund then he complained with refund policy of HIS GROUP, i never knowed about his group, i added a admin and talked about this, and both deleted me, and removed me from the raffle group.

Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TheTf2Lotto​

Provide Evidence:

A little talk with the raffle group owner

View attachment 180082 View attachment 180083
The kick of group



And the trade history View attachment 180084 ​

Some other proof: http://gyazo.com/20412ac3800ae144e6e97d6bd15bef4d

Just added he again to warn he.

Ok, first and formost. you tried to ban an admin-----> which leads to be an instant ban first off.
Next i shall post the groups rules
When you are taking part in a raffle, you automatically agree to:
- Know it's a game of risk, and you may lose your item
- Not complain if you lose
- There are no refunds
- Not reporting the host for a scam, this is how raffles work
- Once you enter, you can't go back
- If the slot you wanted isn't valid, you will get the closest available one
- Do not bribe the host
- Respect others that took part as well

Do not include the item being raffled in the trade offer!

We had a hour chat with 3 different admins and after a long hearing the admins decided to take adequate actions towards the situation

That your raffle group's rules.

Theres the real of the group i joined:
About TF2 Raffle Lottery
This group is all about TF2 raffles. So, join in, invite friends, and win the lottery! Have fun!

How To Become An Admin
Step 1 - Leave a comment on the groups owners profile saying you want to be admin
Step 2 - Wait for approval and keep watching to see if your admin on this group. Also, you must be a raffler to be an admin. If you're not going to raffle then being an admin is useless.

How To Become A Moderator
Step 1 - Leave a comment on the groups comment section saying you would like to be a moderator and why.
Step 2 - The group owner will comment back on the comment section that you left your comment on. It will either tell you if your approved or disapproved for the posistion.

Rules
1 - 10 minute grace period between raffle announcements. I'm sick of people stealing everyone's thunder.

2 - do not change your price entry or number of slots if you have begun the raffle. If it is necessary, refund the entries and start a new raffle.

3 - Include what is being raffled, the number of entry slots, the price of entry slots, and who has already entered the raffle. Update this when someone joins the raffle.

4 - Do not scam, phish, or ask stupid questions to anyone. If you have a question about a raffle, look over the announcement again. If it wasn't answered, ask the raffler.

Punishments
1- If you are a raffler and it is found out that you have "rigged" the raffle, you will be demoted from your posistion as admin and be kicked out of group. No acceptions.

2-If you are a raffler and you scam someone and it is found out within the group, you will be demoted and possibly kicked from group. (depends on the type of scamming and/or how.)

3-If you are to spam announcements or event notifications, you will be demoted from admin.

4-If you are to join a raffle and try to get free slots, you will be kicked from group and not allowed to join back in.

1.- Im talking about tf2 lottery raffle group
2.- I dont care about your group, i didnt agreed these rules.
3.- U just deleted me from the group
4.- U didnt refund me back.

What he leaves out is that he entered via my groups rules, therefore unless he has an adequate reason and evidence why he deserves a refund he will not receive it, following rule#3
Its fairly simple, all he has to do is provide a valid reaso

Woah, Srsly? More proof

It appears some things are lost in translation. here is the conversation
[KoD]DarwinW: in any part of the group says that.
[KoD]DarwinW: 1.- Im talking about tf2 lottery raffle group
[KoD]DarwinW: 2.- I dont care about your group, i didnt agreed these rules.
[KoD]DarwinW: I didnt knowed u has a group.
[KoD]DarwinW: i swear...
[KoD]DarwinW: and if u didnt gived me back the keys
[KoD]DarwinW: that obviusly a scam
inadequate trader: well, according to you and i quote " will i win 100%" even after i said you are undergoing through our rules
[KoD]DarwinW: I asked u if i was gonna win
inadequate trader: even after i said you are in contract with our rules
[KoD]DarwinW: and?
[KoD]DarwinW: i still have right to a refund
inadequate trader: not if you are in within our rules
inadequate trader: as i said multiple times, provide a valid reason for a refund. as it is a policy of the pure raffles and trading you have to provide sufficient evidence why you should break the rules for a refund
[KoD]DarwinW: Those are my keys, that i joined a raffle, and then i retracted and cancelled that offer
inadequate trader: after you broke the rules, even though bribing an admin is an offense. but then you tried to get a refund after you realized you broke the rules
inadequate trader: and there was a no refund policy
inadequate trader: as i said multiple times, provide a valid reason for a refund. as it is a policy of the pure raffles and trading you have to provide sufficient evidence why you should break the rules for a refund
[KoD]DarwinW: i didnt agreed to these rules
[KoD]DarwinW: i just joined the raffle.
inadequate trader: therefore agreeing to the rules
[KoD]DarwinW: I know i broked the rules, but these are my items, and i want them back.
inadequate trader: as i said multiple times, provide a valid reason for a refund. as it is a policy of the pure raffles and trading you have to provide sufficient evidence why you should break the rules for a refund
[KoD]DarwinW: IDC ABOUT YOUR GROUP
[KoD]DarwinW: IM TALKING ABOUT RAFFLE LOTTERY
inadequate trader: PROVIDE A VALID REASON FFS
[KoD]DarwinW: I provided a lot of reasons.
inadequate trader: what are the reasons
inadequate trader: then
[KoD]DarwinW: 1.- I didnt agreed to rules
inadequate trader: if you provided alot of them
[KoD]DarwinW: 2.- Idc about your group
[KoD]DarwinW: 3.- i dont even knowed u had a group
inadequate trader: 1- you obviously did because i wouldnt of let you to join
inadequate trader: 2- that has nothing to do with a reason
[KoD]DarwinW: 4.- the owner kicked me from the group
inadequate trader: 3- you joined my group
inadequate trader: i have valid proof you joined it
inadequate trader: i kicked you from the group
inadequate trader: has nothing to do with the owned
[KoD]DarwinW: 5.- i got the slots, but then i got kicked and all these keys to the trash
inadequate trader: no, you are still entered and if you win i will add you back
[KoD]DarwinW: but i want my refund
inadequate trader: as i said multiple times, provide a valid reason for a refund. as it is a policy of the pure raffles and trading you have to provide sufficient evidence why you should break the rules for a refund
inadequate trader: just write a small letter in your own language why you should get it back
inadequate trader: proper reasons
inadequate trader: thats it

Can we get a closure on this?