Accepted Report: 76561197960269501 - ([Other] Other game items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [Other] Other game items

Accused profile: 76561197960269501

Victim profile: 76561198384061866

What happened? Description:

I approached him asking if I could buy some of his items, and he said that he was willing to sell, but I had to send first. He sent me some sketchy link to send a payment to (via paypal) but I used his e-mail rather than that link. I told him I would rather do a smaller payment first, before we did the bigger tier items, and he said that was fine. So I sent him a $20 payment before he sent the items (he didn't even send the items) and then when I asked him to send me the items, he refused, and told me I was trying to scam him. I told him that he was being moronic, because I had already sent him the money, and he told me the only way I was going to get it back was to admit that I was trying to scam him.
We had made a deal, that I would send first for the lower tier items, which I did, and then he did not follow through on his end. If that's not grounds for a ban, then I don't know what is.

I've got plenty of screenshots to document this.

(Also, I don't understand what's going on with my account, and being banned, for an account that I have no association with whatsoever. I've submitted an appeal and I'm waiting for a response, but that's beside the point. )

This person believes that he's exempt from being banned on Steamrep because he's had his Steam Profile for a long time. That seems completely unfair, I've got plenty of evidence for this case, so please let me know if I need to submit more.

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Seasonal: Panzer?
Seasonal: Do you have a paypal.me?
PanzerKnackers: i do
Seasonal: Okay
Seasonal: I'd give you 285 for the shoes, 120 for the hotpants
Seasonal: 8 for the cap
Seasonal: 3 for the crate
PanzerKnackers: k
Seasonal: How's that sound?
PanzerKnackers: perfect
Seasonal: Do you have mobile?
PanzerKnackers: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?toke...KXuuJWTtGVW2L9mZzo3G&country.x=US&locale.x=US
PanzerKnackers: I do.
Seasonal: what's this link
PanzerKnackers: PayPal
Seasonal: For the payment?
Seasonal: Okay
Seasonal: So how do you want to do this?
Seasonal: Would you bee okay going first on some of the smaller transactions?
PanzerKnackers: Payment then items
PanzerKnackers: Doesn't matter to me
Seasonal: Okay
Seasonal: Okay well let me know whenevr
PanzerKnackers: I'll let you know as soon as the payment goes through
PanzerKnackers: Make sure to put the item in the description
Seasonal: Uh
PanzerKnackers is now Away.
Seasonal: well I'm asking you to go first for the smaller transactions
Seasonal: So we can build some trust
Seasonal: for the bigger ones.
PanzerKnackers is now Online.
PanzerKnackers: Sure sure.
PanzerKnackers: You send whatever payment you want first.
PanzerKnackers: Then we'll go from there.
Seasonal: im confused
Seasonal: You want me to send an offer for the items I'd like to buy first
Seasonal: Before we do the big transaction
PanzerKnackers: Send payment for small item
PanzerKnackers: We trade
PanzerKnackers: Then for bigger item
PanzerKnackers: I'll go first for bigger items if you'd like
Seasonal: I'm asking if you can go first for the smaller items
Seasonal: So I can be able to trust you
Seasonal: theen I'll go first for the bigger items
PanzerKnackers: So if you go to the store and buy a computer, do you take it home before you pay for it?
PanzerKnackers: Doesn't work like that
Seasonal: But how do I know you'll send the items?
Seasonal: If I send first for the small one, you'll send first for the big ones?
PanzerKnackers: If you're worried about losing a few bucks, then we shouldn't do a cash trade
PanzerKnackers: This way I know your PayPal account will work
Seasonal: If I send first, you'll send first for the big items?
PanzerKnackers: Yup
Seasonal: I'm recording here, just to let you know.
Seasonal: I'm sending 20$ right now
Seasonal: Hello?
PanzerKnackers: Hi
Seasonal: I'm sending you 20$
PanzerKnackers: Kay
Seasonal: Check your Paypal
PanzerKnackers: Checking
Seasonal: Alright.
Seasonal: All set?
PanzerKnackers is now Online.
PanzerKnackers: Still waiting
Seasonal: Check your Paypal
Seasonal: https://gyazo.com/c3afc3e4edd7ad03d59c080e7bb2f4a9
PanzerKnackers: I'm checking it
Seasonal: Aight
PanzerKnackers: Might take a while to process
Seasonal: haha
Seasonal: Its completed, don't f✿✿✿ with me.
Seasonal: Don't play this game man.
Seasonal: lol
Seasonal: well you got me
PanzerKnackers: Did I?
Seasonal: Yeah, you're not responding lol
PanzerKnackers: Hi
PanzerKnackers: I'm here
PanzerKnackers: Still waiting
Seasonal: You got the payment
Seasonal: Im not stupid
PanzerKnackers is now Away.
Seasonal: scammed?
PanzerKnackers is now Online.
PanzerKnackers: Did you send it via the link?
PanzerKnackers: Because I see it now, but there is a fee attached.
PanzerKnackers: Hello?
Seasonal: I didn't send it via the link
PanzerKnackers: Ah, that's why.
PanzerKnackers: Here, let me refund it
Seasonal: Uh, no...
Seasonal: I just want the items
Seasonal: I've sent a payment.
PanzerKnackers: Nah, I don't wanna take a huge hit on PayPal fees
PanzerKnackers: Kay?
Seasonal: I'll pay your fees
PanzerKnackers: Dude, fees are like 30%
Seasonal: idc
Seasonal: i have the money
PanzerKnackers is now Away.
Seasonal: so?
Seasonal: Can I have the items please/
Seasonal: I'll be sending a 500$ payment for all of the items
Seasonal: and if it taxes it, i can send more
Seasonal: i coiuld seend the next as friends and family
Seasonal: if that works
PanzerKnackers is now Away.
Seasonal: ?
Seasonal: ...?
Seasonal: Hey, I've sent you money, I'd appriciate a response
PanzerKnackers did not respond to the trade request.
PanzerKnackers is now Online.
PanzerKnackers: What's up
Seasonal: i haven't recieved items yet
Seasonal: And it's starting to sus me out
PanzerKnackers: Oh really?
Seasonal: I've sent a payment, and recieved nothing in return
PanzerKnackers: Bummer
Seasonal: Are you serious?
PanzerKnackers: Yup
Seasonal: Why dude
Seasonal: Refund my money
PanzerKnackers: You know why
Seasonal: Refund my f✿✿✿✿✿✿ money
PanzerKnackers: Admit you were trying to scam me and I'll refund it
Seasonal: THE f✿✿✿ YOU MEEEAN
Seasonal: I SENT FIRST
Seasonal: HOW AM I SCAMMIGN YOU
PanzerKnackers: Kay, bye
Seasonal: reporting you on steamrep
Seasonal: love to see how your reputation will hold up
Seasonal: give me my f✿✿✿✿✿✿ money
PanzerKnackers: Admit it, and I'll refund.
Seasonal: i sent you the money first
Seasonal: and you' haven't sent anything in reeturn
PanzerKnackers: That's not what I asked
Seasonal: Well you're scamming me
Seasonal: So I'm just gonna report you to steamrep
PanzerKnackers: Kay
Seasonal: You're honestly an a✿✿✿✿✿✿
Seasonal: Send me my money back
Seasonal: Or i'm reporting you on steamrep
PanzerKnackers: Admit it, and you get your money back.
Seasonal: I SENT THE MONEY TO YOU FIRST
Seasonal: IF I WAS SCAMMING YOU I WOULD GET MY MONEY BACK BY CALLING PAYPAL
Seasonal: YOU f✿✿✿✿✿✿ MORON
Seasonal: I'm gonna ruin you
Seasonal: If you dont give my money back now
PanzerKnackers: Lol
PanzerKnackers: So you don't wanna admit it huh?
Seasonal: ADMIT WHAT
Seasonal: HOW AM I SCAMMING YOU?
Seasonal: I SENT YOU THE MONEY FIRST
PanzerKnackers: That you were trying to scam me out of the other items.
Seasonal: HOW?
Seasonal: I SENT THE PAYMEENT FIRST
PanzerKnackers: Yeah, after I convinced you.
PanzerKnackers: Scrub bub.
Seasonal: So you're willingly going to take a steamrep report
PanzerKnackers: Here. I'll refund your money.
Seasonal: Over 20$
PanzerKnackers: I really don't think you would have any effect on my steam rep
PanzerKnackers: My account has been around since before steam was launched
Seasonal: I don't care
Seasonal: they don't care
Seasonal: you just scammed me
PanzerKnackers: Kay
Seasonal: you kept my 20$ without sending the items that we agreed on
Seasonal: they don't give a f✿✿✿ who you are
PanzerKnackers: Go call PayPal and request a refund.
Seasonal: No, you refund my money
Seasonal: And I won't submit this report
Seasonal: If you don't then I will'
PanzerKnackers: You shouldn't be requesting digital goods via PayPal anyways.
PanzerKnackers: At least without a third party website.
Seasonal: But that's what we did
Seasonal: You're acting really stupid here man
Seasonal: We made a deal, and you broke it
PanzerKnackers: Nah, you said you weren't whitelisted for opskins
Seasonal: we made a deal
PanzerKnackers: Even though that makes zero sense.
Seasonal: for paypal
Seasonal: I'm not whitelisted to pay with Paypal on Opskins
Seasonal: I'll give you 2 minutes to send my money back
Seasonal: Or I'll submit this report right now
PanzerKnackers: Go ahead and report me.
Seasonal: Just give me my f✿✿✿✿✿✿ money
Seasonal: Stop beeing an a✿✿✿✿✿✿
Seasonal: You know you're in thee wrong here
PanzerKnackers: I'll be happy to share this conversation with them
Seasonal: THE ONE WHERE YOU RECIEVED THE MONEY
Seasonal: THEN SAID "COOL"
PanzerKnackers: Yup
Seasonal: "BUMMER"
PanzerKnackers: I did.
Seasonal: So you admit to scamming me
PanzerKnackers: I'm not scamming anyone. Youre the one who sent a random payment
Seasonal: LOL
Seasonal: Seasonal: I didn't send it via the link
PanzerKnackers: Ah, that's why.
PanzerKnackers: Here, let me refund it
Seasonal: Uh, no...
Seasonal: I just want the items
Seasonal: I've sent a payment.
PanzerKnackers: Nah, I don't wanna take a huge hit on PayPal fees
PanzerKnackers: Kay?
Seasonal: You're honestly braindead
Seasonal: I'm about to ruin your account reputation
PanzerKnackers: Look, I even offered to refund it.
PanzerKnackers: Go ahead and report me.
PanzerKnackers: Please.
PanzerKnackers: I would love that
PanzerKnackers: I think it will be hilarious
Seasonal: Good thing your personal information is shown on your Paypal
PanzerKnackers: Also on my steam page.
PanzerKnackers: Lol
Seasonal: 951-403-5902?
PanzerKnackers: Try again
Seasonal: dont think so
PanzerKnackers: Look at where I live via my steam page.
PanzerKnackers: Wrong area code.
PanzerKnackers: Did you report me yet?
Seasonal: I'm about to
Seasonal: I'm just trying to wrap my head around why you're doing this.
PanzerKnackers: Kay, hurry up please <3
Seasonal: You told me to send a payment first, which I did, then proceeded to ignore me
Seasonal: and then scam me
PanzerKnackers: Also you should call that number
Seasonal: and then call me a scammer
Seasonal: I did, its some random b✿✿✿✿
PanzerKnackers: Lol
PanzerKnackers: Just admit you were trying to scam me from the start, and I'll refund your money <3
PanzerKnackers: Also, are you Russian by chance?
Seasonal: I
Seasonal: am
Seasonal: not
Seasonal: trying
Seasonal: to
Seasonal: scam
Seasonal: anyone
PanzerKnackers: Kay, are you Russian?
Seasonal: I sent the money to you first
Seasonal: No nigga
PanzerKnackers: Where you from?
Seasonal: why do you care
Seasonal: I just want my f✿✿✿✿✿✿ money back
PanzerKnackers: Just curious.
PanzerKnackers: Because you said PayPal.me
PanzerKnackers: And that's a top level domain for like... Russian area stuff
PanzerKnackers: Montenegro
PanzerKnackers: Actually
Seasonal: No
Seasonal: its not
Seasonal: you braindead f✿✿✿
Seasonal: Its for buisness transactions
Seasonal: they're non-refundable
Seasonal: But you scammed me, and i think its just pathetic.
Seasonal: You're making yourself look like a moron.
PanzerKnackers: Ah, right
Seasonal: I'll give you two minutes.
Seasonal: To refund my money.
PanzerKnackers: Kay
PanzerKnackers: I'll wait.
Seasonal: Or I'm uploading this to steamrep
PanzerKnackers: Please.
PanzerKnackers: Just do it now.
Seasonal: lol it says im banned on steamrep
Seasonal: because of another account
Seasonal: sick
PanzerKnackers: Awwww
PanzerKnackers: Bummer.
Seasonal: But I'm still gonna upload this.
Seasonal: Regardless.
PanzerKnackers: What did you get banned for?
Seasonal: I don't know
Seasonal: It just got added.
PanzerKnackers: Maybe I can help you get unbanned
Seasonal: I'll just submit a repeal
Seasonal: an appeal*
PanzerKnackers: I doubt that will work.
PanzerKnackers: Any idea why they would ban you?
PanzerKnackers: Not even the slightest clue?
Seasonal: It looks like it was in assosiation
PanzerKnackers: Because of an alt account huh?
PanzerKnackers: What did you do on your alt account?
Seasonal: My alt account?
PanzerKnackers: Yeah
Seasonal: which account
Seasonal: I don't own that Shadow account lol
Seasonal: I wish I did
PanzerKnackers: Your alt account. The one it is trying to associate with you
Seasonal: that's not my account bud
PanzerKnackers: Link me to the account it says is associated with yours
Seasonal: You grab it
Seasonal: Im typing up this report
PanzerKnackers: Aww, you were reported for fraud
PanzerKnackers: I wonder why
Seasonal: That's not my account.
Seasonal: You can believe what you want to believe
PanzerKnackers: Nah, on this one
Seasonal: On this one?
PanzerKnackers: Yup
Seasonal: Where was I reported for fraud?
Seasonal: Dumbass
PanzerKnackers: Steam rep
Seasonal: That's what I'm talking about
Seasonal: Its banneed because it associated me with this account
Seasonal: lol
Seasonal: its funny how you think you are exempt simply because you have an old profile
PanzerKnackers: How do you know so much about steamrep when your account is only 6 months old?
Seasonal: Because I have another account?
Seasonal: Called Universe?
PanzerKnackers: Oh, lol
PanzerKnackers: I thought you said you didnt have any alt accounts
PanzerKnackers: Or did I read that wrong?
Seasonal: I have one alt account
Seasonal: If you were smart
Seasonal: You would look @ what's going on
Seasonal: and see the difference in the ban dates
PanzerKnackers: Cool
PanzerKnackers: Anyways, im still here if you wanna admit anything
Seasonal: You're funny.
PanzerKnackers: And get your refund pushed through
Seasonal: I'm about to submit this report for ya
PanzerKnackers: Kay
Seasonal: I bet your friends would love to seee this.
PanzerKnackers: This convo is for sure going in my discord.
PanzerKnackers: Anyways, I gotta go buddy.
PanzerKnackers: Message me when you change your mind about admitting anything.
PanzerKnackers: Byyeeeeee <3
PanzerKnackers is now Away.

Any way I can post a screenshot without disclosing personal information to the public?

Checking in here (The accused) Curious if I should forward this payment to a previous victim of OP? https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198318399813-other-other-game-items.166350/

If that is appropriate, If not I will gladly refund to OP.

Thanks, I appreciate the quick responses.

better?