Declined Report: 76561197961617453 - ([DOTA2] Dota2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [DOTA2] Dota2 Items

Accused profile: 76561197961617453

Victim profile: 76561198022924919

What happened? Description:

solicited a trade off market, used a fake middleman and conned me out of 4 items. he added me out of the blue. offered and i refused but when he brought up a middleman I fell for the bait.​

Provide Evidence:

Listen, the majority of the report is on the other guy involved in this, but make no mistake that they are in this together. I've submitted another report and I will provide the ID of the other in question.

76561197961617453 is his ID​

[10:20 PM]
CLIFFORD:
hello

[11:11 PM]
CLIFFORD:
you here?
do you sell Genuine Golden Trove Cask ?
hi there
can we talk ?
you have a buyer now?

[Yesterday, 11:16 PM]
Bones Inc.:
I mean, I'm selling it
it's right there on the marketplace

[11:16 PM]
CLIFFORD:
is it fine to buy it directly to you instead? not in the steam market. to prevent 7 days trade cooldown. because i do buy and sell items
i can pay you 570$

[Yesterday, 11:17 PM]
Bones Inc.:
sorry, but no. I've had waaay too much drama with selling the code itself so I just figured I'd sell it on market to avoid the headach3e

[11:17 PM]
CLIFFORD:
its good?
we can do this in safe and fair trade

[Yesterday, 11:18 PM]
Bones Inc.:
like legitimately some dude got hacked on ebay and there was a whole thing with paypal

[11:18 PM]
CLIFFORD:
what do you mean bro?
do you accepting real money or steam money?

[Yesterday, 11:19 PM]
Bones Inc.:
some hacked account bought my code and i had shipped the physical card already so I couldn't give a refund and paypal got involved and that was a whole thing
it's a mess

[11:20 PM]
CLIFFORD:
if you want i pay you steam money

[Yesterday, 11:20 PM]
Bones Inc.:
if you want the cask just buy it on market and wait the 7 days

[11:20 PM]
CLIFFORD:
if i buy items

[Yesterday, 11:20 PM]
Bones Inc.:
otherwise i'm not interested. it's too easy to get scammed with this kinda thing

[11:20 PM]
CLIFFORD:
i will resell it quickly to make profit
if you want we hire a official middleman so our deal is more sure and secured and we have a safe and fair trade and no one can scammed on our deal
so our deal will be settled
i pay you 570$ its that fair now?

[Yesterday, 11:22 PM]
Bones Inc.:
i don't even know how to go about getting a middleman

[11:22 PM]
CLIFFORD:
here the list of the official middleman we can try to contact one of them
Middleman Service List © ᴄᴏᴘʏʀɪɢʜᴛ :: Dota_2_Trade
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/dotatwotraders/discussions/0/1640913421076597253/

so we have a safe and fair trade
570$ right?
and steam money?

[Yesterday, 11:24 PM]
Bones Inc.:
give me a minute man

[11:24 PM]
CLIFFORD:
sure
btw, what kind of payment we will use?

[Yesterday, 11:25 PM]
Bones Inc.:
paypal works for me if this middleman thing is legit

[11:26 PM]
CLIFFORD:
paypal?
yes sure
many people using their service
we need to pay only their charges
about 1-5%
btw, can you give your paypal email or
Get your very own PayPal.Me link
Post it. Text it. Tag it. Share it. Shout it. And let your friends pay you back in a tap or two. Grab your PayPal.Me link today.
http://paypal.me

to send the money to you
you here?

[Yesterday, 11:28 PM]
Bones Inc.:
yeah, hold up i'm trying to get a handle on this middleman thing

[11:29 PM]
CLIFFORD:
okok
1st are not active
2nd guy is online i think we can try to add him
customURL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/OVAOfficialMM/Status: ACTIVE ✅ CSGO & Dota2 Service

[Yesterday, 11:31 PM]
Bones Inc.:
I'd feel more confortable if I was the one to consult and bring in the middleman

[11:31 PM]
CLIFFORD:
its up to you bro
but your card is connected into your paypal?

[Yesterday, 11:32 PM]
Bones Inc.:
yes

[11:33 PM]
CLIFFORD:
ok thats good
i already add the 2nd middleman from the list
how about you ?

[Yesterday, 11:36 PM]
Bones Inc.:
i'm looking at the third one, give me a little bit of time here

[11:36 PM]
CLIFFORD:
ok mate
the 5th is NO LONGER MIDDLEMANNING it said on his profile
2nd middleman he's the one online right now
you here?

[Yesterday, 11:41 PM]
Bones Inc.:
I've added a couple, waiting for the request to apporve

[11:42 PM]
CLIFFORD:
yes me too.
but the other are offline
2nd guy middleman are accepted me already.
i will tell to him to accept you.

[Yesterday, 11:43 PM]
Bones Inc.:
what is his name btw?

[11:44 PM]
CLIFFORD:
ExaellaOVA
from the list
wait im talking him
he told me he added you already
Gyazo

https://gyazo.com/0d9d5e174f2ea4af5bc83217ae3c6d6b

bro he said this
did you already add the 2nd middleman his name ExaellaOVA?

[Yesterday, 11:48 PM]
Bones Inc.:
listen, i'm glad you're helping out really

[11:49 PM]
CLIFFORD:
okok mate
wait im still talking to him
man
how much our deal again?

[Yesterday, 11:57 PM]
Bones Inc.:
$570, you pay the middleman. on the off chance this goes sour. at least I don't lose money along with an item

[11:57 PM]
CLIFFORD:
cant make 565$ ?

[Yesterday, 11:58 PM]
Bones Inc.:
for the simple fact of hiring a middleman sure. I'll lower it to that

[11:59 PM]
CLIFFORD:
okok thank you

Tuesday, June 11, 2019

[12:00 AM]
Bones Inc.:
talking with the middleman right now, so give me a sec

[12:00 AM]
CLIFFORD:
okok i am talking to him too. i already told to him our deal
i need your paypal email bro

[12:05 AM]
Bones Inc.:
http://paypal.me/FMeza891

[12:05 AM]
CLIFFORD:
ok wait
Francisco Meza
is your name?

[12:06 AM]
Bones Inc.:
yes

[12:06 AM]
CLIFFORD:
okok

[12:11 AM]
CLIFFORD:
dude
i need your paypal email

[12:12 AM]
Bones Inc.:
is the http://paypal.me link not enough?
uh ok
[email protected]
gmail
[email protected]

[12:12 AM]
CLIFFORD:
its enough i just want to be sure
man can you check?
because when i try to send my paypal been limit and its something says error
Gyazo

https://gyazo.com/3fd18798f447737fd3c41ecd6e16112d

[12:16 AM]
Bones Inc.:
it's definitely that email
[email protected]

[12:16 AM]
CLIFFORD:
i am reseller mate, i am using my paypal for resell such an items everyday so definetly i pulled out tons of money.
i use my paypal to pay bills for shoppings etc

[12:18 AM]
Bones Inc.:
is there another way to send?

[12:18 AM]
CLIFFORD:
i just wanted to reach the limits so we do not have any troubles mate
can we fix this? like i pay you more than 750usd or exact
i dont have any payments right now. if card its the same because its connected into paypal
and youll have to wait 7 days

[12:20 AM]
Bones Inc.:
so what you're telling me is, you have to send 750 or more to send in the first place?
and the solution is what? I send you back the difference?

[12:21 AM]
CLIFFORD:
i mean we deal like 750usd or more than
i mean you add more stuffs.

[12:21 AM]
Bones Inc.:
ah, I don't even know what I have that's worth that much

[12:22 AM]
CLIFFORD:
i saw that you got still some stuffs im interested for page 1
if you check it here
https://steam.tools/itemvalue/#/PlotDevice-570
copy and paste your steam profile and click price
im interested for page 1
do you still have items from steam market?

[12:25 AM]
Bones Inc.:
are you talking about dota items or just in general all games things

[12:26 AM]
CLIFFORD:
dota items

[12:27 AM]
Bones Inc.:
that stuff won't come out to 750 though, at most we're talking like 100 dollars maybe 150
you'd have to be paying the difference essentially
it does say it's worth about 200 but that's essentially the whole backpack

[12:29 AM]
CLIFFORD:
what i mean is still have any post in the market?

[12:29 AM]
Bones Inc.:
no, I don't

[12:29 AM]
CLIFFORD:
oh i see.

[12:30 AM]
Bones Inc.:
if you want to work out the whole 750 and send back the difference thing, we can involve the middleman to verify I do just that before anything happens
I can't say much to verify my integrity but this offer came from you, unsolicited. I'd very much just be happy to get the affair over with.

[12:32 AM]
CLIFFORD:
ok so we do now 750 only? above
what item do you can add?
Unusual Kupu the Metamorpher / Unusual Enduring War Dog and Manifold Paradox
for 750?
its good?

[12:34 AM]
Bones Inc.:
listen man, the paradox thing I can get back with the money you send if this whole shebang ends well
not too sure about my precious couriers

[12:35 AM]
CLIFFORD:
yes i understand but i can't send only 750 above so im happy if we add more item so we can finish this
or i will do 800$ just to finsih this and add the 3 items only

[12:36 AM]
Bones Inc.:
ok, you know what? ok. I'll send this info to the middleman and we can settle on this, i'll just use the excess money to buy my couriers back

[12:37 AM]
CLIFFORD:
ok ok i will tell him
800$ right?

[12:39 AM]
Bones Inc.:
yes

[12:40 AM]
CLIFFORD:
ok ok

[12:46 AM]
Bones Inc.:
well, this was very elaborate
so, level with me I'm getting nothing right?
can you just respond and give me some closure man
s✿✿✿ at least give me that much

[1:14 AM]
Bones Inc.:
can you please just say "f✿✿✿ you loser, you deserve this"
at least the other guy tried to be cool by saying his name like he was some master thief man