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Declined Report: 76561198214210601 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Bob Ross 7, Aug 17, 2019.

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  1. Bob Ross 7

    Bob Ross 7 New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

    Accused profile: 76561198214210601

    Victim profile: 76561198068816778

    What happened? Description:
    First guy asked me for his friend to sell my howl
    Asked him to give out the other profile and made his friend repeat the whole offer and had him afterwards send a trade stating "buying howl"

    Declined bitskins/etc because of "fees", when i said fees go on my wallet, I'll put it cheaper they looked for excuses.
    Discord call was pretty short, asked him which way he wants to pay, revealed i know its a scam and he was denying it "I'm doing it since years"

    You can read the chat pretty much, it's all the proof you need in my opinion. N1KLAS also has a pretty decent inventory.

    It's my first steamrep and i Hope i got enough evidence​

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    [2:23 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    Yo, u wanna buy howl? :D

    [2:23 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    Hey there!
    How old are you?

    [2:23 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    25
    why?
    hbu

    [2:23 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    Not that i'm trading with someone that is not overage.
    Im 19.
    I don't want children to get into troubles because they handle money online.

    [2:24 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    lmfao

    [2:24 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    My friend told me that you wanted to talk on Discord, why didn't you join our call?

    [2:24 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    Ill join in a sec
    still in call with grf
    after ill join haha

    [2:24 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    hahah okay :D

    [2:24 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    How much were u estimating to apy?
    pay*

    [2:24 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    tell her greetings from me

    [2:24 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    or how muhc would you want to pay at least lamo
    lmao

    [2:24 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    we can discuss about that when you join the call

    [2:25 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    shoot me an rogue estimate already though

    [2:25 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    i want to have fair prices for both of us

    [2:25 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    so i can know if ill hang her up now xD

    [2:25 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    its ft, right?

    [2:25 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    yeah

    [2:25 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    xDDDD
    imagine hanging up on your girl because of skins
    true honorable man ngl

    [2:25 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    ofc
    priorities
    hole or howl

    [2:25 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    1200€?

    [2:25 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    gotta take a decision

    [2:25 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    howl i think :D

    [2:25 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    how does 1400 sound?

    [2:26 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    1400? what float does it have

    [2:26 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    0.1722

    [2:26 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    lemme check
    thats a pretty decent float tbhg

    [2:26 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    yeah, paid attention when i got it haha

    [2:26 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    haha i see i see
    how about 1300?

    [2:27 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    You got bitskins/cs.money?
    sounds good though

    [2:27 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    coming closer to what you wanna hear?

    [2:27 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    1300 sounds like a fair price

    [2:27 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    okay, i like it
    get in the call :D

    [2:27 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    in a sec
    still discussing

    [2:28 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    xD

    [2:28 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    which way are you paying though?

    [2:28 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    if she gets something of the money?

    [2:28 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    ofc she does haha
    dinner

    [2:28 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    is she involved in the profits? haha
    yeah get her a nice dinner after
    ^^
    i can do: paypal, paysafecard, skrill, klarna, btc and eth

    [2:28 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    Who goes first?

    [2:28 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    what i dont do is: external site such as: cs.money, opskins, steammarket etc

    [2:29 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    how comes you dont do external?
    and how is steammarket external :D

    [2:29 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    because i have to upload my money to external sites and i have to pay fees
    imagine paying 15% fees on a item on the steam markets
    yeah youre right its not external xD
    but you gotta pay 15% fee and i better pay the dude that owns it some more % than giving steam that

    [2:29 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    if we use bitskins id take the fee on me though

    [2:30 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    how can you do that?

    [2:30 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    id put the gun for 1200
    you buy it - i get less, you pay the same
    worth the safety

    [2:30 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    sounds about right, but as i said, i have to rethink that because i have to upload my money to another site
    i usually dont do that, but we can speak about it

    [2:30 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    so youd rather not do 3rd party?

    [2:30 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    that depends really
    if we talk and you can get my interest in bitskins ill do it
    im not generally against 3rd party
    but i prefer direct, just preferation, not decision ^^
    who goes first depends on a few things: youre reputation, your level, your experience in trading, your trades / sells before

    [2:32 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    Oh
    my main is steamlvl 317 xD
    No worries

    [2:32 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    what

    [2:32 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    and experience in trading.. yeah

    [2:32 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    tell me your main than :D

    [2:32 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    one 3k€ inventory
    and one 12k € inventory
    kinda experienced id say

    [2:33 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    holy

    [2:33 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    no idea how many trades i made

    [2:33 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    well yeah, that is experienced

    [2:33 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    so i guess youd go first after we talk on main?

    [2:33 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    well that is an option
    go hmu on your main

    [2:34 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    kk will do
    ill join discord call in a sec aswell

    [2:34 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    nice i like it
    N1KLAS sent you a new trade offerView trade offer
    N1KLAS sent you a new trade offerbuying m4a4 howlView trade offer
    schau mal in mein inv
    ich mach das seit jahren so

    [2:39 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    diggi
    so gut xD
    Schau mal wie dein inv die tage tradeban kriegt ^^

    [2:39 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    komm nochmal in den call

    [2:39 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    lies valve FAQ
    third party selling gibt ban
    ist against tou

    [2:40 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    third party?
    end to end trading?
    gut dass ich das seit jahren so mache ^.^
    du kannst auf meinen was du willst :)
    naja, wie dem auch sei, mach du deinen report - schau was daraus wird :)
    wünsch dir noch nen schönen abend
    hau reoin

    [2:43 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    dir auch

    [2:43 AM]
    N1KLAS:
    danke ^^




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    [1:52 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    hi

    [1:58 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    Hey
    you sell your Howl?

    [2:00 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    sure

    [2:00 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    For Money?

    [2:00 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    sure

    [2:00 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    you want Money per Paypal?

    [2:01 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    bitskins :)

    [2:01 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    bank direkt, skrill, klarna, paypal, paysafecardbtc und eth

    [2:01 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    how much u paying?

    [2:01 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    ok

    [2:01 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    how much?

    [2:02 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    He said he cant pay on bitskins
    but he said

    [2:02 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    yes?
    like what did he say xD

    [2:05 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    What do you sell for 200$?

    [2:06 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    my bayonet

    [2:06 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    which?

    [2:08 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    night stattrak
    not interested in howl anymore?

    [2:12 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    Wait

    [2:12 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    sure

    [2:13 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    You have an another one About 100-250$?

    [2:14 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    sure
    ak-47 stattrak the empress

    [2:18 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    With what could he pay?

    [2:18 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    idm
    as long as money arrives
    lol

    [2:19 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    bank direkt, skrill, klarna, paypal, paysafecardbtc und eth
    Thats the payments

    [2:19 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    he goes first?

    [2:20 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    He said normally not. He is a fair Trader he is lvl 123 and he has only +rep and you can ask him

    [2:20 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    So i go first?
    you got discord?

    [2:20 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    Ja

    [2:20 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    ja?

    [2:20 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    yes
    Sorry xd wrong chat

    [2:20 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    gimme ur name

    [2:21 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    ℨℑ#1591
    Im in a call with him

    [2:21 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    so i go first?

    [2:21 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    you can ask him

    [2:21 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    whats his steam?

    [2:22 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    Steam Community :: N1KLAS
    AWP Player with PASSION" “Always make a total effort, even when the odds are against you.” “Every accomplishment starts with the decision to try.”
    https://steamcommunity.com/id/N1KLAS_

    [2:22 AM]
    Bob Ross:
    i added u on discord
    and him on steam

    [2:22 AM]
    Bloodzik:
    Okey you want join call?
    Its better to talk i think​

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  2. Horse

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    ALL evidence must be hosted HERE to the report not gyazo or any other 3rd party hosting sites.
    Upload all you have on next reply!
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    Sorry, didn't know external hosters arent ok, @Horse.
    Is it ok this way?
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    Did you take the formal agreement and rest of the discussion over to Discord?
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    No, the only thing on discord was me revealing that I dont fall for their scam because I wanted to get a voice reaction as they were friends with one of my friend.
    Everything that was talked occured in those screenshots, nothing was left out.
    If this isn't enough evidence, I'm sorry and will make it better at the next time, in my opinion it was enough.
    The only thing that was "missing" was literally me accepting the trade because he was like "You gotta go first"
    He literally sent the offer. Also wrote "buying howl" with into it.
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    What was the deal? Was there a trade? Or did you back out assuming they wouldn't pay you or something?
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    The "deal" was me going first giving him my howl on his offer over paypal.
    The trade was offered, but if i accepted it i wouldve just been scammed.
    I backed out because I wont give a stranger my skins without any security measurements.
    I'm going to bed after writing this so if you feel like there's not enough evidence, please delete this post as i dont want to trashtalk "innocent" steamusers.
    Really appreciate your work!
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    How do you know you would have been scammed? Thing is you don't know - you have no idea if the user would have followed thru with their end of the deal or not and from what I can tell assumed they wouldn't. You can't submit reports based on assumptions..the same could be said about you if that user reported you for this reason by your logic.
    We can't delete reports or don't for transparency - so you really need to give it more thought next time prior to reporting someone when you really don't know if they would or wouldn't have paid you.
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