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Declined Report: 76561198882174928 - ([DOTA2] Dota2 Items)

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  1. Derision

    Derision New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulent behavior
    Virtual item type involved: [DOTA2] Dota2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198882174928

    Victim profile: 76561198087978603

    What happened? Description:
    I found him from reddit. He's under the username u/jaceofficial. He was trading his Jagged Honor set for 2 Arcanas -- I agreed to the deal and I sent the Arcanas to him and when he received them he told me that he cannot send the set yet because he was saying that we were not friends for 30 days (but I knew that he was wrong because I already had him in my gifting list) and told me that he would try again in a few hours. After that day -- no communication at all until now.​

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    Sunday, August 4, 2019

    [8/4/2019, 7:32 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    hey mate?

    [8/4/2019, 7:44 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    hey man sorry lot of stuff going on
    whats up

    [8/4/2019, 7:44 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    jagged honor is up and available

    [8/4/2019, 7:44 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    ohh sorry man
    already found someone
    if you still have it in a months time i can take it off your hands.

    [8/4/2019, 7:47 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    copy that man
    catch up with u next time

    [8/4/2019, 10:45 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    hey jace forgot to ask, your jagged honor is only $36 paypal?

    [8/4/2019, 10:45 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    yeah

    [8/4/2019, 10:45 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    why so cheap?
    i'll try to snag it by the 15th if it's still available. Just waiting for a little bit more funds.

    [8/4/2019, 10:47 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    it costs around 2 arcanas in reddit
    and i can buy 2 arcanas here for $36

    [8/4/2019, 10:49 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    that makes sense.
    If it's still available on the 15th i'll try to take it

    [8/4/2019, 10:49 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    sure man
    there are people who are interested
    but none of them is serious

    [8/4/2019, 10:50 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    ohh hmm
    well i cant buy on the 15th because we're friends on the 21st
    so have to wait til then

    [8/4/2019, 10:51 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    yeah no problem with that

    Wednesday, August 14, 2019

    [Wednesday 8:00 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    hey man
    wanna check if u still interested with JH set

    Thursday, August 15, 2019

    [Thursday 7:20 AM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    hey manwanna check if u still interested with JH set

    [Thursday 12:11 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    Hi jace. Can i give you an answer on sunday? I’m still interested

    [Thursday 7:55 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    sure mate

    Friday, August 16, 2019

    [Friday 4:11 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    how much for the jugg in dota items?

    [Friday 5:30 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    atleast 2arcanas in worth mate

    [Friday 5:42 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    Okay i’ll take the set in about an hour or 2
    Any arcanas?

    [Friday 7:19 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    any arcanas
    we're friends for more than 30 days already right?

    [Friday 7:20 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    yes

    [Friday 7:21 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    nice

    [Friday 7:21 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    its today actually
    haha

    [Friday 7:21 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    lmao nice timing

    [Friday 7:26 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    just let me know if usent arleady
    kinda watching stream on my phone

    [Friday 7:44 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    we good to go?
    mate?

    [Friday 7:48 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    oops sorry
    gimme 1 min

    [Friday 7:52 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    sure

    [Friday 7:53 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    You sent || Hex || Selling Cache 2019 a new trade offer2/2 Arcana payment for Jagged HonorView trade offer
    sent

    [Friday 8:03 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    just took a bath
    going in-game now

    [Friday 8:03 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    cool. thanks man

    [Friday 8:05 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    bro
    I can't still gift it yet
    maybe it's after 30days
    not on the 30th day
    or we still a few hrs togo

    [Friday 8:06 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    weird you're already on my list hmm

    [Friday 8:06 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    really?
    i will try in a few hrs

    [Friday 8:07 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    https://i.imgur.com/eLu9Zp9.png

    [Friday 8:16 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    i'm hitting off to work now mate
    i'll send it as soon as i go online

    [Friday 8:16 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    so it would be around after your work, right?

    [Friday 8:17 PM]
    || Hex || Selling Cache 2019:
    yeah but I can secretly go in-game in the PC

    [Friday 8:18 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    ok sounds cool
    thanks again

    Saturday, August 17, 2019

    [Saturday 8:45 AM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    hey jace is it still not giftable?

    [Saturday 7:38 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    hey are u able to send it yet?

    [Saturday 10:14 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    dude can you try sending it now pls?

    Sunday, August 18, 2019

    [Yesterday, 12:34 AM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    are you there, sir?

    [Yesterday, 3:39 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    ohhhh i think you might have my name wrong
    i have an invisible special character in front so i might be at the bottom of your list
    please send the set when you get time. Thanks!

    [Yesterday, 6:07 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    hey jace u there?

    [Yesterday, 9:03 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    cmon sir please just send me the set

    Monday, August 19, 2019

    [12:21 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    Jace, are you going to be sending the set?
    It has been 3 days already and I haven’t received anything not even a reply from you.
    And I know you are able to gift because I am able to gift to you.

    [4:34 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    send me the jugg set please

    [5:21 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    Hey I'm sorry man but I'm gonna have to report you. It has been 3 days and still no communication. I already paid you in full and it seems like you scammed me.

    [9:02 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    send me my set
    send me the jugg set that I bought from you

    [9:13 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    I will report you for scamming if you do not send the set

    [9:20 PM]
    Dяzη tradeit.gg:
    Okay, you will be reported and banned from the dota2trade subreddit.​

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  2. Derision

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  3. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    You need to show proof of what you sent and what you didn't receive.
  4. Derision

    Derision New User

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    Uploaded 2 photos. 1st photo is for what I sent and 2nd photo is for what I did not receive.

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  5. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    How is showing me an image of an item someone has not proving you didn't receive it? Is that item a item that shows on steam item history? Can you show me last few days of trade inventory history?
    Also since you did send items to this user - open up inventory trade history thru a web browser, hover your mouse pointer over users name so it shows up the URL to their steam ID at the bottom. The other screenshot of the 2 days of history needs to be full screen and thru steam client. ALL images must be full screen.
  6. Derision

    Derision New User

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    Hi, sorry for the late reply.

    Unfortunately, received gifts are not shown in the Item history but I can provide screencaps of the gifts that I did receive that go under the keyword "Jagged Honor" in my inventory.

    First SIX photos are from Item trade history as you requested.

    First "Jagged Honor" shown in photo #7 was my personal item drop from the Dota 2 Cache Treasure II. The way to tell that I got this as a drop is that it still has the description that "This item may be gifted once".

    Second "Jagged Honor" shown in photo #8 was from a successful trade from /r/dota2trade. Note : Gift from BREEZY

    Third "Jagged Honor" shown in the photo #9 is still in it's gift wrap from another successful trade from /r/dota2trade. Note : Gift from Tysonko

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    Derision New User

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    -- forgot to attach photo of 3rd Jagged Honor

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    Derision New User

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    It was brought to my attention that if I used a beta version of steam history page it shows sent and received gifts.

    Attached are the screencaps of my inventory history that you requested.

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    Derision New User

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    I also forgot to attach the hover over screencap you requested.

    I'm sorry. I may have uploaded too many files and misunderstood the part about the screenshot being in full screen.

    Attached are the photos of my steam inventory history with gifts.

    Please let me know if you need anything else. Thank you!

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  11. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Sorry I'm afraid I'm going to have to reject this since I can't find any formal agreement noted between you and the accused of what was supposed to be traded. This is beyond what was mentioned in that trade offer box, that isn't enough as you can't see what was discussed.
    You spent most of the chat with your own words but nothing from the accused.
    We require formal agreements noting exactly the items to be traded.
    Should you come up with this and ONLY if you have this from when it was agreed upon, you can submit another report but again ONLY if you have that from the original conversation.
    Aside from that - there is just no way we can verify if you received the gift or not based on dota's trade history and gifting.
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