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Accepted Report: 76561198233553120 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

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  1. sanecsgo

    sanecsgo New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] Other cash fraud (webmoney, bitcoin, etc)
    Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

    Accused profile: 76561198233553120

    Victim profile: 76561198370005335

    What happened? Description:
    The user added me and asked to buy my AWP Medusa Well Worn with Bitcoin. He suggested $660 in Bitcoin and I accepted. He had a lot of expensive skins and was friend with a few trusted traders I added days before, and he claimed to have done trades with them, selling his skins for cash.

    Because of this, I just decided to trust him (dumb me) and sent the Medusa first after confirming the $660 price.

    He accepted the trade and blocked me. No payment was sent.​

    Provide Evidence:

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    [segunda-feira, 23:03]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    hello

    [segunda-feira, 23:10]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    hey
    had interest in medusa

    [segunda-feira, 23:11]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    ok
    what do you got?

    [segunda-feira, 23:11]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    got BS dlore and btc

    [segunda-feira, 23:16]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    whats your offer?

    [segunda-feira, 23:24]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    ill check after my match

    quarta-feira, 1 de abril de 2020

    [Ontem, 15:16]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    yo
    sorry for being late
    what is fv of medusa

    [Ontem, 15:18]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    hey
    its 0.43

    [Ontem, 19:12]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    660 usd btc for it?

    [Ontem, 19:34]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    can we close at 670?

    [Ontem, 19:43]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    eh
    kinda firm at 660

    [Ontem, 19:45]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    how would we do that?

    [Ontem, 19:45]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    I have BTC and zelle

    [Ontem, 19:45]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    you got cash rep?

    [Ontem, 19:46]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    yea u?
    cash hist not rep

    [Ontem, 19:46]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    a small and new one
    so pratically none

    [Ontem, 19:47]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    do you have the ss's
    from ur trade history
    i dont like the threads
    too easy to fake

    [Ontem, 19:47]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    what do you mean
    yeah but if they come from real trusted profiles that should be enough, right?

    [Ontem, 19:47]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....730/0325A47E94F7288FA9431F2189F9F9DA6036B188/

    like this

    [Ontem, 19:47]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    screenshots are even easier imo

    [Ontem, 19:48]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    from ur trade history

    [Ontem, 19:48]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    these trades dont make someone trusthworthy imo

    [Ontem, 19:48]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    how so?

    [Ontem, 19:48]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    let me see
    well, these are just trades you have done
    this doesnt mean a lot

    [Ontem, 19:48]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    I mean
    the ss's
    of the cash trades
    you have done
    lmao
    that was just my trade hist
    not all are cash trades

    [Ontem, 19:49]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    and you have the users confirming the trades you did with them?
    i mean, comments somewhere

    [Ontem, 19:50]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    Yeah
    uh i sold a gungnir fn
    you can see in the ss
    Steam Community :: m1 B> Inv/Bulk/Skins cs.money
    war beerus heat Buff ːkb2_heartː abrar
    https://steamcommunity.com/id/fastnfair

    to him
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....083/573E5034A3B591B5210CB9DF01BFC63339332E5A/

    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....668/607DB2E2EE11A2C9C0C9C1B4FE90BB8556B13A62/

    Steam Community :: Chavalier cs.deals cs.money
    Post a detailed comment below before adding. Cash Rep | Trade Offer | BUFF 长期更新库存回收库存可走正规交易网站淘宝中间人
    https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198093913706

    talon ruby and saph to him
    etc
    i can also use
    skinbaron
    if ur uncomfortable
    i can also
    make a cashrep
    thread if u want
    and have them comment

    [Ontem, 19:51]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    you asked them to post about this trade somewhere?

    [Ontem, 19:51]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    i just think thyre not trustworthy

    [Ontem, 19:51]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    i mean
    i wouldnt blindly trust them
    but they are something more, so they just help when you have trusted profiles confirming they traded with you

    [Ontem, 19:52]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    I prefer the ss's
    wel
    i prefer discord
    screenshare
    so that the ss's cant be faked

    [Ontem, 19:52]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    having m1 post saying "confirm he is legit" is better than just having a screnshot imo
    but i understand what you mean

    [Ontem, 19:53]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    i mean
    do you have a discord
    i can screenshare the trades the payments
    etc
    better than a thread

    [Ontem, 19:56]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    ok
    sne#8207

    [Ontem, 19:57]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    ait
    ill call u in a bit

    [Ontem, 23:39]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    o
    yo

    quinta-feira, 2 de abril de 2020

    [00:12]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    hey

    [00:14]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    i was tryna discord

    [19:04]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    hello

    [19:04]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    hey

    [19:05]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    what about the medusa?

    [19:05]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    yeah im in a game
    but im still open
    i traded my dlore
    so i need awp

    [19:05]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    we can talk after the game

    [19:05]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    kk

    [21:37]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    you're good now?

    [21:37]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    yep

    [21:38]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    so you have the $660 btc?

    [21:38]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    c
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....899/94D99EA85D1F56066728F397527737FFC8712A17/

    thats hgow much btc i have to spend atm
    saving ~3400 for gungnir FN

    [21:38]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    ok
    so can we procceed right?

    [21:39]
    wuhan_flu dont use cs.deals:
    yep

    [21:41]
    lesane S> Inv & Arcs:
    35i3exftvgo2Wr6L1xhEbUCVVjZAsqVVrh​

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  2. sanecsgo

    sanecsgo New User

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    All the screenshots attached to his post since it was bugged for me and I sent only a few above.

    Also, just noticed in the "similar threads" a lot of scam accusations against this same user ALL DENIED. Really? I read a few and saw that most are because "screenshots are too cropped" or similar. A lot of people, including me now, scammed with thousands of dollars because of something like this. Just venting a bit after losing close to $700...

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    sanecsgo New User

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    "Nobody is getting away with anything"

    This was on one of the accusations against this same user FROM LAST YEAR. Since then he stole (from the posts I saw, all DECLINED):

    2 AK Wild Lottus (~$1100 each)
    1 M4 Howl
    1 Karambit Ruby (~$3000!!!!!!)
    And a s✿✿✿ ton more skins, closing to at least $10k USD in skins!!!

    And he still got away with ALL of them because all of the accusations go denied. Really? FFS SteamRep. Please check your rules and methods.
  5. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I'm not sure why you are quoting something I posted... each report is its own and treated as such.
    And unless each report has proper evidence it is Declined for the reasons stated on each one.
    For all we know the user was reported by someone that didn't like them with friends helping...we must treat each one as its own report and requirements as noted.
    So quoting me or anyone for that matter isn't going to make this report go any faster, get accepted/declined in anyway.

    Lastly - if the user had so many reports why did you even trade with them? You could have clearly seen them and reviewed for yourself. If you were depending on a tag here that still would NOT stop them from trading..you would have again had to research the user and seen the reports and thus again deciding for yourself.
    Our goal here is to EDUCATE not punish.... no matter how many times we tag someone here they can STILL TRADE...
    Only Valve can stop someone from trading...we can't.
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  6. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    As for this report - you may have enough but lets get a few things.
    First off STOP CROPPING SCREENSHOTS - I can prob accept what you have but we need FULL screenshots when reports are submitted here.
    Cropped boxes often times are not acceptable
    Please provide a full screen shot of your Trade Inventory History (thru a computer not mobile) showing for sure the trade in question(NOT TRADE OFFER!!)- open this with a web browser, move your mouse over the users name in question so it shows up the hypertext popup URL at the bottom of the screen - take the screen shot DO NOT edit it in anyway and upload.
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    sanecsgo New User

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    I can't exactly understand what you mean with cropped screenshot. You mean you want my full screen? I used ShareX and selected the steam chat, which took the screenshot and cropped it for me.

    About the quote, I was just venting since I was mad that the guy had 9 other accusations which I'm 100% are legit and all got denied for things like screenshots done wrongly. And because he is not marked (after 9 people taking their time to post here) he stole more than $10k in skins and my AWP medusa which was worth 70% of my inventory and I really needed the money (ok, my bad, but still, this shouldn't have happened if he was marked or at least showed "this user HAD 9 accusations, see them here" even if they are denied).

    Anyways, here is the trade inventory history (I think thats what you meant). Took the whole screen this time to avoid issues.

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    As I said - wouldn't matter if they were marked they could still trade - you ignored the other reports for some reason also which is not our fault.
    Some times people get brigade reported by someone and their friends, hard to say that is why we have strict guidelines on evidence requirements.
    As for full screenshots - FULL screen means FULL screen.
    We even have a guide up that shows examples and how to do so.
    What you provided just now is FULL screen so that is good - I'll take a look shortly.
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    sanecsgo New User

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    Just to be clear, I didn't ignore any report because I didn't see any report.

    I checked his profile on SteamRep and it said: No special reputation
    This made my think he was clean. It didn't show "the user had X accusations" or something. I only saw the other ones when posting this and saw the "Similar Threads".
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    There is a reason for that - if they are unfounded then they are Declined.
    I'm sure you would be rather upset if someone reported you with a lack of evidence and they still showed up to others showing something negative.
    The reports are still public found by just a quick/simple search and at that point you would review them for yourself.
    At this point we may be able to review what you provided but I can't promise that and no matter the outcome we follow procedure and requirements so that alone should be acknowledged.
    I'll review this soon - no need to reply again
    thanks!
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    What was the BTC amount you were supposed to receive - Exactly.
    Not in $ funds..I need the BTC amount.
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    sanecsgo New User

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    We didn't say any amount in BTC. Thats how I always do my trades with BTC. We tell the value in USD and whoever is sending checks the price of BTC at the time and sends. You can see in the screenshots that we just said $660 and I gave my address later for him to send, which he did not and instantly blocked me.

    Just to be clear, I received 2 other transaction in the address I posted above which is from another trade I did yesterday and a payment not related to trading. I obviously have chat prints and prove from where the other payment came from if this is an issue in any case.
    The trade one: 0.03198534 BTC
    The other payment not related to trading: 0.02175000 BTC
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    Ok but what I'm saying is at that time what was the BTC amount for $660.

    Those other trades you gave BTC amounts - what were those amounts in $'s just for the sake of saying.
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    sanecsgo New User

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    Bitcoin was close to $6900 so that would be approximately 0.0956 BTC.

    Since the user scammed me, I received 2 other payments in that address (it's my local exchange deposit address, so its static. I use it when I'm going to sell the BTC for money, which I was in need, so its easier to just use the deposit address of the exchange).

    0.03198534 BTC, worth $217.3 at current price (BTC at $6794) in exchange for some Arcanas (DOTA 2 item) which I sold to an user.
    Hidden Content:
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    0.02175 BTC, worth $147.76 at current price (BTC at $6794) as payment for a totally unrelated thing:
    Hidden Content:
    **Hidden Content: Content of this hidden block can only be seen by members of (usergroups: Administrative, Moderating).**
    Just posting this here to give as much info as I can to close this case as fast as possible and mark the user so he stops scamming other people so easily.
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    ok the additional transactions make for difficulty reviewing as I have to go thru each number to verify you didn't get paid.
    Has the rates/exchange values changed much in the last 2 days? If so what were their offsets?
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    Ok, lets suppose I got paid and these 2 transactions are it (WHICH THEY ARE NOT).

    Price is changing again (changes every couple of minutes actually), so I will use the numbers I used in the post above.

    BTC at $6794 gives the two transactions a total of $365,06 (sum the values above: 217.3 + 147.76).

    Even at $6900 (price from the date I got scammed), this would give (0.03198534 * 6900 = $220.69) + (0.02175 * 6900 = $150.07) = $370.76

    Close to the $660? No. For the total amount received to be worth $660, BTC would need to be priced at $12282.41 (which is not even close to any price it reached in this whole year).

    So please disregard these transactions as they do not mean anything to this case.
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    I realize how BTC works - just getting numbers from you to review as the burden of proof is upon the OP not us.
    Will review everything soon - remember no matter what we do here the user can still trade regardless so you should also take this up with Valve.
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    Ok - still investigating.
    Need an updated screenshot exactly the same way I asked for previous.
    Also need one showing the same thing thru steam client but don't worry about the mouse over - just show same trade screen in steam client as well.
    both must be FULL screen
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    Are these ok?

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Your report was accepted and the accused was banned. Feel free to report a violation via their Steam profile.

    In order to do that, you have to:
    1. Visit the accuseds profile
    2. Click MORE drop-down located at the top right of the page
    3. Choose REPORT VIOLATION
    4. Select the violation, then describe it and provide the evidence
    5. Click SUBMIT REPORT

    Click here to view an animated gif that shows how to report a violation.

    Keep in mind the user can still trade -we can not stop that.
    If someone ignores the tag/reports here that isn't our fault.
    Even another report accepted against them will do nothing to stop them from trading.
    Only Valve can do that so you can report to them but do keep in mind that cash trades violates their TOS.
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