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Declined Report: 76561198022004891 - ([Steam] Steam Games)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by おしの おうぎ, Jan 16, 2022.

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  1. おしの おうぎ

    おしの おうぎ New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:152048271
    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Money] Other cash fraud (webmoney, bitcoin, etc)
    Virtual item type involved: [Steam] Steam Games

    Accused profile: 76561198022004891

    Victim profile: 76561198264362271

    What happened? Description:
    I saw him sold items in https://steam-tracker.com/trades/new/s

    So I add him for trade, I tried to use tf2 keys instead of paypal, and he agree with that.

    We came to an agreement that I use 2 tf2 keys(= about $4) trade for his two game Relic Hunter and Switchblade, but after that, he accepted my tf2 keys and only gave me another free game, Relic Hunters Zero: Remix(https://store.steampowered.com/app/382490/Relic_Hunters_Zero_Remix/) expired key to me, and said that another game Switchblade he sold long ago.

    I already owned the game Relic Hunters Zero a long time ago, so I didn't get anything, but he wasn't willing to return my tf2 keys back.

    He is a total scammer, unfortunately I only noticed at the end that he has a lot of negative comments on the steamtrade website(https://www.steamtrades.com/user/76561198022004891), and many people have pointed out that he is a scammer early on. But steamrep.com don't have any information warning.​

    Provide Evidence:
    I saw him sold items in https://steam-tracker.com/trades/new/s:
    View attachment 794042

    I add him, our Chat Log: View attachment 794039

    I sent my tf2 keys to him:
    View attachment 794040

    I didn't get anything, already own the free game he sent, but he don't want refund to me:
    View attachment 794041

    Already many people said he is a scammer:
    View attachment 794043

    [12:08 AM]
    Jossy:
    konichiwa
    you've added me?
    英語を話せますか?
    なぜ私を友達として追加したのですか?

    [12:33 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    英語 is ok, can I know do u still sell Relic Hunter and Switchblade for $1?

    [12:33 AM]
    Jossy:
    yes or you can trade them for keys of games that I don't have

    [12:35 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I see u here https://steam-tracker.com/trades/match/s

    [12:35 AM]
    Jossy:
    yes

    [12:37 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I had left steam for 3 years, just come back, so maybe could't find any keys, because I am not sure are they duplicate:crykit:
    And can I trade with u by tf2 keys?

    [12:37 AM]
    Jossy:
    no sorry not interested in tf2 keys

    [12:42 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Because I cant use paypal to transfer in my region, only can use it to pay:bccry:

    [12:42 AM]
    Jossy:
    then maybe you canbuy a game and gift it to me

    [12:44 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    But seems gift in steam also have region locked

    [12:45 AM]
    Jossy:
    only for certain games, majority works

    [1:08 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Actually my account is in Russia region to avoid some steam store limit now, so I think it is very difficult to buy and send gifts from the low-priced region to the high-priced region:pdead:

    [1:09 AM]
    Jossy:
    OK

    [1:11 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    That's why I suggest use tf2 keys to trade...:foxhime_liya2:

    [1:12 AM]
    Jossy:
    i dont care for tf2 keys

    [1:13 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I know, i just thought it was a means of currency circulation among steam players

    [1:13 AM]
    Jossy:
    how do they represent any value?

    [1:15 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Usually as 1 key for $2
    u can see many set price as keys here https://steam-tracker.com/trades/match/s

    [1:16 AM]
    Jossy:
    ok sent them to me

    [1:17 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    some by paypal, some by keys
    How much key these two

    [1:18 AM]
    Jossy:
    2 keys

    [1:19 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    You sent Jossy a new trade offerView trade offer
    ok...I sent

    [1:20 AM]
    Jossy:
    thanks for the gift

    [1:22 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    So the keys?

    [1:23 AM]
    Jossy:
    which you wanted?
    relic hunter zero right

    [1:24 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Relic Hunter and Switchblade?

    [1:24 AM]
    Jossy:
    Relic Hunters Zero 6N9LM-IQ2DV-YJLTW
    tell me if it worked

    [1:25 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    oh...I already own it
    isn't it Relic Hunters?

    [1:25 AM]
    Jossy:
    it is

    [1:26 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I thought it is this one: https://steamdb.info/app/641700/

    [1:26 AM]
    Jossy:
    let me check

    [1:26 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Relic Hunters Zero is free...

    [1:26 AM]
    Jossy:
    that game is free you can add it by installing it

    [1:26 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Relic Hunters Zero: Remixfrom Rogue SnailRelease Date: 18 Aug, 2015Relic Hunters Zero: Remix is a remaster of the FREE 1 million player hit game about blasting evil space ducks and turtles with tiny cute guns. It’s fast, it’s tactical, and feels deliciously smooth to play. Unlock new weapons, characters and relics to defeat the Ducan Commander! Free to PlayView Store Page

    [1:26 AM]
    Jossy:
    yes i know
    but with a key you get the trading cards
    so i recommend.. remove it from your inventory and then add the key

    [1:27 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    yeah.. but I own it long time ago

    [1:27 AM]
    Jossy:
    ok well, sorry for that
    i cant trade the key either anymore cuz ive given it to you

    [1:28 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....164/A116183028F760AA3FDFACCD4CB8F2DE0D218867/

    [1:28 AM]
    Jossy:
    btw you have to be careful because being in the wrong steam region - if someone reports you - you can lose your account

    [1:28 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Looks like it was a misunderstanding

    [1:29 AM]
    Jossy:
    it's not allowed to have steam storefront in russia if you are not there

    [1:29 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    That's ok, I use this region for 7 years

    [1:29 AM]
    Jossy:
    ok

    [1:30 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    So what to do now, do you have the Relic Hunter key? https://steamdb.info/app/641700/

    [1:30 AM]
    Jossy:
    no

    [1:30 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    :crykit:
    So could you give me back a tf2 key and keep trading the Switchblade?

    [1:32 AM]
    Jossy:
    sold already
    thank you for the trade though
    have a nice day

    [1:32 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    ?
    so you don't return my keys?
    ok, I will report u to http://steamrep.com and http://www.steamtrades.com

    [1:43 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    No refunds and I will not delete any negative reviews or withdraw the report :SnakeHappy:
    have a nice day, u would never trade with others in the future. I will report to steam-tracker website and groups
    Your reputation in the steam community is over

    [1:58 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Please waiting for a steam trade ban:sgsmile:

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  2. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Sorry but I'm declining report on grounds of improper evidence. Not only is the chat logs edited but also no date on them.
    Lastly we wouldn't review this anyway as its relate to game/code/key trading and that is against policy and would be INVALID regardless.
    Please do not submit reports here without proper evidence to start with and if they do not fall within what we review.
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-submission-fundamentals.169802/
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/screenshot-guide-requirements.157969/
    nothing provided suggests/shows this user is or was guilty of any wrong doing per policy.
    Declined.


    See Invalid reason here:
    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/steamrep-investigative-policy.140101/
  3. おしの おうぎ

    おしの おうぎ New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:152048271
    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Item Fraud] Quick-switch trade scam or attempt
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198022004891

    Victim profile: 76561198264362271

    What happened? Description:
    He(Jossy) offer items in steam-tracker website:
    https://steam-tracker.com/trades/new/s

    So I add him for trade. We came to an agreement that he use two games, Relic Hunter and Switchblade trade for my 2 tf2 keys(about $4). But after that, he accepted my tf2 keys and only gave me another free game, Relic Hunters Zero: Remix's(https://store.steampowered.com/app/382490/) duplicated key, and said that the game Switchblade he sold long ago.

    I already owned the game Relic Hunters Zero a long time ago, so I ask my friend to try, then we find even this key is duplicate, but he wasn't willing to return my tf2 keys back and never answer me again》

    He is a total scammer, unfortunately I only noticed at the end that he has a lot of negative comments on the steamtrade website(https://www.steamtrades.com/user/76561198022004891), and many people have pointed out that he is a scammer early on.

    But steamrep.com still don't have any information warning. I had checked his steamrep before trade and nothing reminded me. I think this is one of the reasons why I was scamed. If steamrep doesn't give us any hint for him, more people will be scamed in the future. Because his offer is still hanging on many website as steam-tracker.com. Luckily my deal this time around is a small amount of value, but there are sure to be bigger ones in the future.​

    Provide Evidence:
    His(Jossy) offer items in steam-tracker website:
    https://steam-tracker.com/trades/new/s
    (still there now, even he already "sold to" me, waiting for next victim)
    View attachment 794111

    Our full Chat Log(after that, don't reply me anymore):
    View attachment 794112

    I sent my tf2 keys to him:
    (But he said that was gift?! At this point I was already beginning to suspect that he was going to run away, was it a scam? But checked in steamrep.com, he's reputation is normal?)
    View attachment 794113

    So I didn't get anything, already own the false another free game he sent. And after that I asked my friend's account to try activate, as expected, his key is dupliace key:
    View attachment 794114 View attachment 794115

    My trade offer history in steam, he still never want refund me:
    View attachment 794116

    Already many people said he is a scammer:
    View attachment 794117

    So I think steamrep really needs to give a certain warning to this scammer's rep. As the only victim of this transaction, my losses will definitely not be recovered, but not only for me, but also for people who want trade with him in the future. A certain reminder in case more victims show up!
    I know why steamrep has decline my report before, this time my screenshots are more complete and clearly, please do not stand on the side of the scammer!​

    Monday, January 17, 2022

    [Monday 12:08 AM]
    Jossy:
    konichiwa
    you've added me?
    英語を話せますか?
    なぜ私を友達として追加したのですか?

    [Monday 12:33 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    英語 is ok, can I know do u still sell Relic Hunter and Switchblade for $1?

    [Monday 12:33 AM]
    Jossy:
    yes or you can trade them for keys of games that I don't have

    [Monday 12:35 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I see u here https://steam-tracker.com/trades/match/s

    [Monday 12:35 AM]
    Jossy:
    yes

    [Monday 12:37 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I had left steam for 3 years, just come back, so maybe could't find any keys, because I am not sure are they duplicate:crykit:
    And can I trade with u by tf2 keys?

    [Monday 12:37 AM]
    Jossy:
    no sorry not interested in tf2 keys

    [Monday 12:42 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Because I cant use paypal to transfer in my region, only can use it to pay:bccry:

    [Monday 12:42 AM]
    Jossy:
    then maybe you canbuy a game and gift it to me

    [Monday 12:44 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    But seems gift in steam also have region locked

    [Monday 12:44 AM]
    Jossy:
    only for certain games, majority works

    [Monday 1:08 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Actually my account is in Russia region to avoid some steam store limit now, so I think it is very difficult to buy and send gifts from the low-priced region to the high-priced region:pdead:

    [Monday 1:08 AM]
    Jossy:
    OK

    [Monday 1:11 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    That's why I suggest use tf2 keys to trade...:foxhime_liya2:

    [Monday 1:11 AM]
    Jossy:
    i dont care for tf2 keys

    [Monday 1:13 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I know, i just thought it was a means of currency circulation among steam players

    [Monday 1:13 AM]
    Jossy:
    how do they represent any value?

    [Monday 1:15 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Usually as 1 key for $2
    u can see many set price as keys here https://steam-tracker.com/trades/match/s

    [Monday 1:16 AM]
    Jossy:
    ok sent them to me

    [Monday 1:16 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    some by paypal, some by keys
    How much key these two

    [Monday 1:17 AM]
    Jossy:
    2 keys

    [Monday 1:19 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    You sent Jossy a new trade offerView trade offer
    ok...I sent

    [Monday 1:20 AM]
    Jossy:
    thanks for the gift

    [Monday 1:22 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    So the keys?

    [Monday 1:23 AM]
    Jossy:
    which you wanted?
    relic hunter zero right

    [Monday 1:24 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Relic Hunter and Switchblade?

    [Monday 1:24 AM]
    Jossy:
    Relic Hunters Zero 6N9LM-IQ2DV-YJLTW
    tell me if it worked

    [Monday 1:25 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    oh...I already own it
    isn't it Relic Hunters?

    [Monday 1:25 AM]
    Jossy:
    it is

    [Monday 1:26 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    I thought it is this one: https://steamdb.info/app/641700/

    [Monday 1:26 AM]
    Jossy:
    let me check

    [Monday 1:26 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Relic Hunters Zero is free...

    [Monday 1:26 AM]
    Jossy:
    that game is free you can add it by installing it

    [Monday 1:26 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Relic Hunters Zero: Remixfrom Rogue SnailRelease Date: 18 Aug, 2015Relic Hunters Zero: Remix is a remaster of the FREE 1 million player hit game about blasting evil space ducks and turtles with tiny cute guns. It’s fast, it’s tactical, and feels deliciously smooth to play. Unlock new weapons, characters and relics to defeat the Ducan Commander! Free to PlayView Store Page

    [Monday 1:26 AM]
    Jossy:
    yes i know
    but with a key you get the trading cards
    so i recommend.. remove it from your inventory and then add the key

    [Monday 1:27 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    yeah.. but I own it long time ago

    [Monday 1:27 AM]
    Jossy:
    ok well, sorry for that
    i cant trade the key either anymore cuz ive given it to you

    [Monday 1:28 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....164/A116183028F760AA3FDFACCD4CB8F2DE0D218867/

    [Monday 1:28 AM]
    Jossy:
    btw you have to be careful because being in the wrong steam region - if someone reports you - you can lose your account

    [Monday 1:28 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Looks like it was a misunderstanding

    [Monday 1:29 AM]
    Jossy:
    it's not allowed to have steam storefront in russia if you are not there

    [Monday 1:29 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    That's ok, I use this region for 7 years

    [Monday 1:29 AM]
    Jossy:
    ok

    [Monday 1:30 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    So what to do now, do you have the Relic Hunter key? https://steamdb.info/app/641700/

    [Monday 1:30 AM]
    Jossy:
    no

    [Monday 1:30 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    :crykit:
    So could you give me back a tf2 key and keep trading the Switchblade?

    [Monday 1:32 AM]
    Jossy:
    sold already
    thank you for the trade though
    have a nice day

    [Monday 1:32 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    ?
    so you don't return my keys?
    ok, I will report u to http://steamrep.com and http://www.steamtrades.com

    [Monday 1:43 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    No refunds and I will not delete any negative reviews or withdraw the report :SnakeHappy:
    have a nice day, u would never trade with others in the future. I will report to steam-tracker website and groups
    Your reputation in the steam community is over

    [Monday 1:57 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Please waiting for a steam trade ban:sgsmile:

    Tuesday, January 18, 2022

    [1:41 AM]
    おしの おうぎ:
    Your Relic Hunters Zero key is also a duplicate key. My friend already try.
    So you fully admit that you are scam and are unwilling to refund? Don't even want to argue?

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  4. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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