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Declined Report: 76561198051341906 (Koka_loveWTFISH)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Paul (Bademeister), Apr 8, 2012.

  1. Paul (Bademeister)

    Paul (Bademeister) New User

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    Victim: TF2 Community

    Scammer:
    steamID: Koka_love WTFISH ?
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:45538089
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051341906
    customURL:
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198051341906

    Screenshot:
    Profile: http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=scummbag3vpbbd.jpg
    Evidence:
    Pic of planing manipulate Prices
    http://www.abload.de/img/scumbags7izos.jpg
    Pic of post where the guy write they have done fake offers and fake trades
    http://www.abload.de/img/scumbags2hpxlq.jpg

    Description:
    This Group ( http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ebenbmocbs ) made a agreement to push prices of BMOc & Ebenezers...
    They done it like I describe in this Thread on Steam forum ( http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2640611 )
    At my second Pic you can see the Post of the guy where he admit they have done fake offers to push the price

    Also you can read in the other post they hoard bmoc & ebenezer before they started to push the price.

    I dont know if this is enough for a scammer tag but i believe this is enough for a caution tag for this guy and the admins of the group
  2. Koka_love

    Koka_love New User

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    hahaha nice one ^^
    if you dont agree with the new prices please dont buy them. im sure you also are wearing nike shoes which cost at least 90€, but you know they are less then 10€ worth. fck that! thats how our society works.
    and please read what i have posted. i never said that i made fake offers, i said that there are some (not many) rtarded kids doing that.. but not more than on other items with not stable prices (crates, collector items ...). our group wanted only to show the owners of christmas promo hats, that they have rare and nice hats. i said that we rised the price because we offered on this items, thats true! but that were no fake offers. the most members of this group believed in the potential of that rare promos and wanted to buy them asap to make larger profit if the prices would really increase. bla bla bla its 8 o clock in the morning and i dont have time to continue.
    but maybe i will report you later becouse of manipulate (decreasing) the prices too? fck that! how old are you? dont buy the hats for the price and stop spamming!
  3. Melkor

    Melkor New User

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    This is total crazy...Scammer tag for the guys who are trying to manipulate with prices on the Market? You mad? They are just trying to rise the price...This thing can do everyone and dont say that you didnt...I am not getting guys like you Bademeister
  4. ☠Jack☠

    ☠Jack☠ New User

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    Are you serious? You can't ban someone for just trying to get people to overprice their items. If people want to sell those hats for alot it is their choise. They are no forcing people to buy them, if people think they are overpricing then they just won't buy them.
  5. Paul (Bademeister)

    Paul (Bademeister) New User

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    Let me tell you a old scamm scheme from the early days of TF2 Trading ^^

    A greedy guy wants more for his "any Crap Item here" then the community is willing to pay.
    So he as his scamm buddy if he gonna help him.
    Both join a trade server.
    greedy guy write: Sell "Crap Item" for Bills
    ...
    ... (put some Trade Chat of other people on server here)
    ...
    scamm buddy write: Buy "Crap Item" for Buds
    ...
    some dude who thinks he can make quick profit buys "Crap Item" from GREEDY GUY for more then he would normal pay to sell it to SCAMM BUDDY.
    But BIG SUPRISE scamm buddy isnt intrested anymore to buy "Crap Item" for Buds.

    -------

    You and your group have done this in a bigger context.

    Like written in the group chat you planned to hoard BMOC & Ebenezer and after this to push price.
    You and other group member bought many BMOC & Ebenzer for cheap.
    Then your group opend many trades on tf2outpost and asked for a big overpay for your items...
    Then members of the group offered high prices for BMOC & Ebenzer (Fake offers cause they didnt want to buy them. The reason why they offered was to push the price for there own Hats they wanted to sell)
    Then there was some fake trades on TF2Outpost.. accepted offers but if you look in the backpacks and look on Tradehistory of items they didnt change backpack.
    After this some guy of your group posted on Spreadsheet they should look on bmoc & Ebenzer cause prices are rising..
    Spreadsheet changed prices cause of fake trades and fake offers.
    So you can make profit cause you know there are many people out there who follow spreadsheet.

    And your intention was not to rise price of these hats cause they was undervalued, you wanted to make profit... you need proof ? let me quote you...

    and you also write your group offered on there own hats to push prices... this are fake offers cause they were done without intense to buy for the offered price

    It doesnt matter you believe they should this worth. you admit your group done fake offers to incrase prices.
    and you dont believe your hats are this worth. you offered me a ebenezer for the half worth you say you believe its worth. You also sold them one for a genuine Maul (you know maul isnt worth 1 Buds)
    you deletet the comment where you admit this trade (damn i didnt take screenshot) but here is the trade where you bid a ebenzer for my witcher set.
    ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1237189 )
    You say you believe Ebenzer is 1 Bud Worth... but why you offer then your ebenzer for a 9 Keys Worth Genuine Set?
  6. Paul (Bademeister)

    Paul (Bademeister) New User

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    i count this as a attemp to scamm me.
    Cause you tried to sell your ebenzer fast for the pushed price.
    You had knowledge of the manipulated prices (you were part of it)
    you knowed near no one outside of your group offered (means no one with the intention to buy ebenzer for your wanted price) this prices.
    So for me its the same like the scamm scheme i descibed at my previous post
  7. Paul (Bademeister)

    Paul (Bademeister) New User

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    The Fake offers from this group werent honest. They lied because they never was willing to pay that price themself.
    They want to take advantage from other traders.
  8. Spyromancer

    Spyromancer New User

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    As underhanded as it is, this can't really be considered a markable offence for the same reason sharking can't be marked: people aren't breaching any trade agreements (quite the opposite in this case) and no one's irl money is at risk of being stolen. What they're doing is basically just accelerating a process that, who are we kidding, would happen anyway. Fake offers are the only dirt you have on anyone, and that's not a markable offence on steamrep either (though I know some sites and servers ban for that behaviour).
  9. AcesGamer

    AcesGamer User

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    I've had 3-4 people come up and report this guy to me. As for the moment I've banned him from AF2 servers, but I doubt SR will agree with a scammer tag.