Archived 76561198006366242 Sharking, possible Alt.

Victim:
| steamname: Rcforme
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:57030552
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198074326832
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/rcforme
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198074326832


Scammer:
| steamname: OWNED!
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:23050257
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006366242
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198006366242

I was approached today by the victim, who came to me out of the blue offering me a level 105 carbonado botkiller, level 105. I was not looking for any BKs and informed him. Then he asked if I could somehow help him sell it. I explained how I list mine on Outpost, etc etc.....then he told me how much he paid for it. After a few minutes of looking around and letting the fog clear from my head (I was on my 1st cup of coffee this morning) things started to click in my head.

The more I delved into this, the more it just didn't sound right to me.

The scammer has been part of Valve for 5 years, yet only has 135 hours into TF2. 35 of those hours in the last 2 weeks.

Something tells me that this guy is some sort of Alt.

Now I know SteamRep usually has a policy of not dealing with Sharking, but something tells me this thing goes a little deeper then that. Please allow mt to follow up. And yes I know SteamRep also wants to hear from the actual victim. I am alerting him to this post and asking him to follow up as well.

As I had a bit of time invested in this, I couldn't with a clear conscience just walk away from it.

I have a treasure trove of pix I need to upload here, but it is crystal clear that this guy feels what he did was ok, because, he claims a SteamRep Admin told him that SteamRep wont mark him for sharking.

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I have linked this to the victim so he can add his screenshots.

As I stated, this guy clearly thinks he can get away with Sharking simply because he thinks SteamRep wont do anything about it.

I myself can not add any screenshots of value to this due to the time pressure he put on me making me forget taking screenshots, and how the steam chat is buggy and often deletes itself. I can however tell almost exactly what happened.

I was approached by the guy. He told me it was very rare and one of a kind, so I checked, and yes, it was most likely one of a kind, since it wasn't even scanned by stats.tf yet. Other over level 100's had already been scanned. He told me it was worth at least 2-3 keys. After that, he told me that he had to leave in 5 minutes to study. This was step one. Time pressure influencing the human decision making system. Secondly, he told me there were already people offering 2 keys. This was step two. Misleading information. Due to the time pressure he already put on me, I had no time to check his claims. I thought it was kind of weird for someone to sell for lower than what other people have offered (he offered me to pay the price of 8 refined). he however explained later that he rather wants metal than keys, because of the whole deal about metal/key inflation. I understood, which made it seem pretty true. After that, "the tme was running out" (not sure if that was legit), so I had to make a split-second decision, and the combination of pressure, claims that seemed real and the downsides of the human brain ultimately led to the decision to take it.

Later, I decided to check on his claims. He had only put the Botkiller up on Outpost and Backpack.tf Classifieds for a few hours and had not received any offers. What also made me suspicious about him was that even though he told me how much he hates the inflation, he was actively selling keys for 5.33 refined. Furthermore, like posted above, he's been part of Valve for 5 years, yet he only has 135 hours of playtime, of which more than a fourth was in the last two weeks, and he told me he only got his premium last week, was starting trading and his metal (including mine) mattered a lot to him. This makes him look very suspicious.

After that, my brother also told he had the guy come to him, but he refused the offer simply because he doesn't deal in special levels.

Later, OWNED! told me that he bought the Botkiller for a high price, thinking it was a super rare glitched item, even though it was not. He kept using this as a reason that he was right, even though he sharked/scammed me. Furthermore, he was also very sensitive about being reported even though he himself was "convinced" he had not scammed/sharked and therefore had no reason to be punished. He also tried to give me the deal of refunding in trade for not reporting him, which seems like he's trying to avoid getting caught for something by corrupt means.

All in all it is a very weird and suspicious case.

PS: The botkiller was not a carbonado, but a Silver Mk.II Wrench

This is from last night when he added me out of the blue.

Never tell your password to anyone.
Thursday, May 09, 2013
OWNED!: Hey
OWNED!: How much would u offer for a lvl 105 botkiller mk 2 wrench



This is todays conversation.....he re-added me when I posted on his profile page about sharking the victim:

OWNED!: dude
OWNED!: stop posting
Mrs TS: first off, get off this DUDE...Im female, cant you read?
OWNED!: ok
OWNED!: u be the judge
OWNED!: let me state my point
OWNED!: then u see who is at fault
OWNED!: ok?
OWNED!: im not trying to say im not returning
Mrs TS: you sharked this guy, plain and simple. You violated toutpost rules by claiming you had false offers of 2 keys
OWNED!: anything
OWNED!: u have to let me speak my point or this is not fair
Mrs TS: you are an alt, clear as day.......5 year account with 135 hours in TF2, who you trying to kid here
OWNED!: why must u be so suspicious of me?
Mrs TS: ok, go ahead, speak.....because Im a hair away from posting on SteamRep myself about you
OWNED!: im just a normal gamer
OWNED!: ok
OWNED!: fine
OWNED!: i am
OWNED!: a tf2, lfd2 gamer
Mrs TS: did you tell him you wanted metal because the tf2 economy was making you mad?
OWNED!: wait
OWNED!: STOP
OWNED!: LET ME EXPLAIN
OWNED!: GOSH
Mrs TS: how would someone with only 135 hours in TF2 even KNOW what the TF2 economy is?
Mrs TS: then EXPLAIN !
OWNED!: then u keep interfering..
OWNED!: firstly
OWNED!: im a normal gamer
OWNED!: please dont interupt
OWNED!: i only play
OWNED!: tf2 and lfd2
OWNED!: i stopped playing for many years due to psle
OWNED!: i live in singapore
Mrs TS: dont be condescending to me, talk, and keep your little snipping comments out of it
OWNED!: i got my premium last week if u can check
OWNED!: my outpost was only active last week
OWNED!: next
OWNED!: i bought the 105 wrench
OWNED!: cause i was new
OWNED!: i couldnt find the level on backpack.tf
OWNED!: i thought it was glitched
OWNED!: i remember people telling my glitched items could top the yellow belt market or something
OWNED!: so i thought it was quite worth
OWNED!: so i found rcforme
OWNED!: i asked him for about 2 keys
OWNED!: but i was in a hurry
OWNED!: not because of metal market or anything
Mrs TS: and so you overpaid for it....then since YOU overpaid, you figured you would get someone else to overpay with outrageous claims of how you have previously gotten 2 key offers on it. Clearly a fake offer and clearly giving you the name of a trading SHARK
OWNED!: i had to study for my exam the next day
OWNED!: i didnt tell him i bought for 2 keys
OWNED!: i didnt say anything
Mrs TS: you can tap dance around this all you want....what you did you KNOW you did wrong. Trade him back or I follow thru and file a steam rep report, plain and simple
OWNED!: i simply said i thought it was 2 keys
OWNED!: give me a minute as i discuss something with rcforme
Mrs TS: you have 5 minutes, then Im leaving, and then you can just deal with what I post on steamrep
Mrs TS: and if everything was a simple misunderstanding, then refuind his metal and take your overpriced botkiller back
OWNED!: ok
OWNED!: let me discuss with rcforme
Mrs TS: if you got scammed from the person you bought it from, then you deal with that on your own
OWNED!: ill come up with a logical
OWNED!: conclusion by tomorrow
Mrs TS: im leaving in a couple minutes.....then I file my report
Mrs TS: tomorrow you will be already filed on, THAT I promise you
Mrs TS: conclusion is this, trade him back right now or I go to steam rep with all this, in the next 2 minutes
OWNED!: wait tell me what is steam rep
Mrs TS: go look.....you will be marked as a scammer, all your accounts will me banned on all trading sites and all trade servers
OWNED!: tell me how to access
Mrs TS: do your homework.
Mrs TS: www.steamrep.com
OWNED!: tell me which category its under
OWNED!: if it is
OWNED!: ill accept it
OWNED!: i will just return
Mrs TS: then go trade him
OWNED!: tell me which category its under first
Mrs TS: http://forums.steamrep.com/forums/report/
OWNED!: i mean if u consider this a scam, which category is it under
Mrs TS: thats where I will be reporting you in the next minute or so if you dont trade him back
Mrs TS: the steam rep admins will putr it where THEY decide it goes
OWNED!: i know, but waht? game scam?
Mrs TS: all I have to do is file a report, plain and simple
OWNED!: middle man impersonifaction?
Mrs TS: SCAMMER
OWNED!: what the hell dude
OWNED!: if i was a scammer
OWNED!: why would i be trying so hard to defend myself
Mrs TS: they do what THEY want with it, all I have to do is make a report, a general report.....they do their job, I dont tell them how to do it
Mrs TS: if you did nothing wrong then, trade him back,plain and sinple
OWNED!: its not even under any category and u want to threaten to report me
Mrs TS: ok, im doine here, you are wasting my time.....have fun
OWNED!: its like threatening to report someone who didnt do anything
Mrs TS: youll deal with it when they do their investigation
Mrs TS: you DID shark the guy and you know it
Mrs TS: you DID tell him you had offers of 2 keys, thats in your writing to him, thats a fact
OWNED!: i know i in fact did price him over the limit
Mrs TS: thats a banable offense on Outpost. And, any ban on outpost WILL result in a global Steam Repo ban....DEAL WITH IT
OWNED!: and i will return him the money if u tell me logically
OWNED!: why it is called scamming
Mrs TS: thats all the proof I need, that you intentionally sharked him..... thanks. You are making this so much easier
Mrs TS: then, DO IT....trade him back
OWNED!: when i simply priced him at a cost which i thought was appropriate, and he accepted it
OWNED!: not like i took his items and ran away
Mrs TS: im done with you.....if he tells me you traded him back, fine, if not, Im filing a report, it is as easy as that
OWNED!: fine
OWNED!: ill just discuss with him
Mrs TS: have a good day sir
Mrs TS: good bye
OWNED!: you can mind your own business
Mrs TS: its EVERYONES business to get rid of sharks and scammers.....and, your welcome
OWNED!: sry but leaving u in my friends list gives me bad memories too
OWNED!: u can screenshot this
Mrs TS: oh, I already did
OWNED!: because i know as a fact i did not scam
Mrs TS: everything here is logged =)
OWNED!: make sure to add that part in
Mrs TS: everything will be added, trust me
OWNED!: thanks, nice logifying things with you
Mrs TS: just a heads up....
OWNED!: ?
OWNED!: for your information
Mrs TS: your TYF2 hours dont matter if you are F2P, thats #1....and number 2, your report is done.
OWNED!: As a community admin on SteamRep, let me briefly answer your question:

Yes and no. Sharking in of itself is not directly scamming, and players are not tagged directly for sharking. However, there is a broad gap between a "shark" and someone who just supplies a bad deal. A shark, by formal definition, targets newer, uninformed players and uses deceptive tactics to convince or pressure the player into trading a high-value item for change a fraction of its value. A shark actively seeks out his/her victims, utilizing tools to find the perfect and most likely target. This is inherently different than someone who simply gets a good deal to lack of knowledge on the part of the opposite party in a trade. While I and most players consider both to be past the moral threshold, Octavia makes the valid point that these, especially the former, are part of a capitalist economy.

Sharking will generally not directly result in a mark on SteamRep. Yet sharking, as per our definition, does give players bad reputation; people find out. This can affect future trading activity such as playing leadership roles; admins have been terminated of their status, both from their respective communities and from SteamRep, for sharking. Some players refuse to trade with sharks. You can get banned from individual communities for it, based upon their decision, which is not bound by universal process and guidelines like SteamRep. Some players compile their own lists of sharks. Should you ever get involved in a scammer report, as a victim or a scammer, your word will typically not be trusted. Plus, there's a fine line between sharking and scamming; once you begin Sharking heavily, it's very easy to jump that line, and many players do.

Octavia, the goal of SteamRep is not to establish a set of global trading rules or "enforce a moral" upon people; the goal is to encourage the safety of the trading community by allow players to be aware of who they are trading and if that player has committed any previous acts of suspicion. If a player wishes to
OWNED!: from an admin
Mrs TS: Im going to get some coffee, and when I get back in 1 minute, if you havent traded him back, I send the report,
Mrs TS: Yep, thats their GENERAL POLICY.....and yet they look at everything they are sent
Mrs TS: it is clear to me that you are trying to not get marked because in your eyes, you sharked him and didnt 'scam' him, in your twisted world
OWNED!: because after 30 mins of trying to explain to both of you i thought the price was 2 keys
Mrs TS: so, then IU take it, you are fine with what you did and dont care that the report goes in, is that it?
OWNED!: i was forced to find information on what sharking was
OWNED!: because none of you believe me
Mrs TS: so, YOU were wrong and ovberpaid so you thought you would lie and get someone else to fix it for you
Mrs TS: then pay him back
OWNED!: sharking isnt wrong
OWNED!: its just making someone overpay due to his lack of knowledge
Mrs TS: iot was your mistake in the 1st place and then you want to make profit off someone else by lying to him and telling him you had offers of 2 keys
OWNED!: and i had no bad intentions while doing so
Mrs TS: sharking isnt wrong? WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT THATS NOT WRONG
Mrs TS: you just pasted where it DOES say its wrong
OWNED!: FOR THE LAST TIME, I DIDNT KNOW IT WASNT 2 KEYS
Mrs TS: ok, so you didnt know.....now you do
Mrs TS: so why wont you buy it back from him?
OWNED!: BECAUSE THE TRADE WAS ALREADY MADE WITH 2 SIDES AGREEING
OWNED!: DURING THE TRADE
Mrs TS: with you TELLING HIM A FASLE PRICE
Mrs TS: now ytou know it was a false price....so, you CAN do the right thing and give it back
OWNED!: YES, AND THAT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL AND I MYSELF HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF IT
OWNED!: THE ONLY SOURCE I USE TO FIND PRICES IS BACKPACK.TF
Mrs TS: you told him you had offers of 2 jeys
OWNED!: like i said, im not an expert
Mrs TS: then you told him, you were sick of the key prices and rushed him into buiying it at 8 refined.....like you were doing him a favor
OWNED!: okay about the key prices
OWNED!: i was ridiculed, what was be got to do with hating inflation of key prices rush him?
OWNED!: what the heck?
OWNED!: makes no relation at all
Mrs TS: ok, my last question...I have this report done....are you trading him back, yes or no? sinple question
OWNED!: ask him if u want to report
OWNED!: he
OWNED!: wants
Mrs TS: im not asking him anything, I AM REPORTING IT
Mrs TS: SteamRep WILL accept reports from others
Mrs TS: i asked that 1 last question, yes or no, are you trading back his metal
OWNED!: i find this extremely unreasonable and i feel that i am being threatened
Mrs TS: not tomorrow, not later, im asking right now
OWNED!: in this case now i am the victim
Mrs TS: then explain that when I file the report
Mrs TS: I find everything you haVE SAID TO BE MISLEADING, AND YOU ARE BALMING EVERYONE BUT YOURSELF.....YOU knew YOU OVERPRICED IT, ITS HERE IN THE CHAT
OWNED!: I KNEW ONLY NOW
OWNED!: DUDE
Mrs TS: OWNED!: i know i in fact did price him over the limit
OWNED!: yes and i only knew after the trade
OWNED!: i had no knowledge about botkillers
Mrs TS: Ok, so NOW you know you made a mistake.....are you going to FIX your mistake or just leave it the way it is and not pay him back?
Mrs TS: do you do the right thing and fix it, knowing you made the guy overpay for your weapon?
Mrs TS: this is not a hard decision....its only hard if you are trying to screw the guy over, who you know you made overpay
OWNED!: i did make the guy overpay for the weapon , but only knew that after trading. Also, if u insist this is overpricing and making false claims, it is still not scamming but sharking , which is 2 different things
Mrs TS: your story of only being being Premium and that is why you have low TF2 hours isnt truthful. F2P hours count and add to your total
OWNED!: i know
OWNED!: who doesnt
Mrs TS: ok, so then you are admitting to sharking the guy and think thats ok???
Mrs TS: because you think SteamRep wont mark a shark, is that it?
OWNED!: i didnt shark the guy, becasue it wasnt intentional
Mrs TS: please, tell me thats why you arent paying him back, because you think SteamRep wont do anything
OWNED!: finally ur talking
Mrs TS: but now you know you did.....and if you KNOW you did and refuse to do the right thing, that makes it just as bad
Mrs TS: finally Im talking? you mean, so the fact that you think SteamRep wont do anything.....you arent going to do anything, is that correct?
OWNED!: why i am not paying him back and bothering to defend so much, is because all i dont have as much money as you
OWNED!: u have tons of keys
Mrs TS: because there mioght not be any punishment, you think its ok ??
OWNED!: u dont care about a mere 8 ref
OWNED!: and besides, the trade was perfectly acceptable as i did not violate any rules of scamming
Mrs TS: what I have is no significance to this conversation. My husband is ranked in the top 300 of all TF2 backpacks.....what does that have to do with anything
OWNED!: well because money means alot
OWNED!: to me
OWNED!: the trade was perfectly acceptable, in the end both players clicked the made trade button
Mrs TS: ok, this is going no where....you admit that, maybe not then but now, that you overpriced the item.....and you trading it back knowing now that you sharked him?
OWNED!: u cant regret something u already done and want to refund
Mrs TS: he doesnt regret buying something worth what you told him it was worth
Mrs TS: it is NOT worth what you told him its worth
Mrs TS: thats sharking, which in alot of peoples eyes, is indeed scamming
Mrs TS: do you not see this?
OWNED!: yes, but in the end both players clicked the made trade button, and it was also his fault as he did not have much knowledge about it and accepted
Mrs TS: do they do things differently in Singapore that they dont do in the rest of the world
Mrs TS: let me ask you this......
Mrs TS: you go to a store to buy a stereo....you pay X mount of money.
Mrs TS: the next day, you see it somewhere cheaper.....
Mrs TS: do they NOT let you bring it back for a refund?
Mrs TS: or is Singapore a Gestapo country where you livve by your every decision and no one is allowed to make a mistake?
OWNED!: it doesnt matter really
Mrs TS: I guess in your eyes, it doesnt
OWNED!: if u insist that i am sharking, its just a matter of moral
OWNED!: nothing to do with scam
Mrs TS: Ok, Im done here, you have clearly shown to me that you have no morals....you KNOW , even after the fact, that you screwed this guy over. On purpose, not on purpose.....doesnt matter. FACT....you NOW know you screwed him over.....and STILL you think you did nothing worng, as long as Steam Rep doesnt mark you
Mrs TS: THOSE are what Im walking away with
Mrs TS: so then you are admitting you have no morals in this matter what so ever, do you
OWNED!: no i am not
OWNED!: im simply saying i didnt know that i was overpricing
Mrs TS: now you know
OWNED!: yeah
Mrs TS: so are you willing to do the right thing?
Mrs TS: yes or no
Mrs TS: sinple question
OWNED!: and since i did nothing wrong DURING the trade
Mrs TS: do you have morals to do the right thing and make it right
OWNED!: it is perfectky acceptable
Mrs TS: perfectly acceptable to shark the guy?
Mrs TS: you say this because SteamRep wont touch you
OWNED!: nope
OWNED!: i mean
OWNED!: that
OWNED!: the trade violated no rules, with both parties accepting the offers made by opposing party
OWNED!: regardless of what happened during the trade, the trade went on, and no reasons oblige me to refund his items unless u can prove that i am indeed scamming
OWNED!: i dont want mere words but proof
Mrs TS: you TOLD him it was worth 2 keys
Mrs TS: then you TOLD him you had previous offers of 2 keys and then you rushed him
OWNED!: i rushed him because it was already late and i needed to study for my exams
Mrs TS: and, you quoted SteamRep with the expression that they wont touch you for sharking
OWNED!: Sharking isn't inherently considered scamming. Even if you lie to the other person about the value of their item, that's entirely up to them to decide before they agree to the trade.

It's frowned upon, but I think everybody who's active in trading sharks to some degree.
OWNED!: i did not
OWNED!: shark
OWNED!: i did not say that steamrep would not touch me
Mrs TS: you rushed him.....why isnt inmportant, you rusdhed him and told him you had previous offers, which I am willing to bet, is a lie
OWNED!: i just feel that i did nothing wrong during the trade and should not be banned
Mrs TS: well, Im done here....clearly you have no morals, and maybe Steam Rep does soemthing to you, maybe they dont.
OWNED!: i didnt tell him exactly i had previous offers, i simply said he could fetch it easilly
Mrs TS: but I will walk away knowing Im reporting someone that knowingly doesnt care what his reputation is in TF2 trading
Mrs TS: if HE could easily fetch 2 keys....then why couldnt YOU
Mrs TS: and, how did you come to such a price....there is no price sheet that states 2 keys
OWNED!: exactly thats the point
OWNED!: there was no price sheet
Mrs TS: exactly....so, how did you come to the conclusion HE could key 2 keys for it....when you clearly couldnt
OWNED!: and you can price the amount anyhow u like as there is nothing to limit the price of the objects
OWNED!: according to the admin
Mrs TS: I price things my way, definitely, but I dont state anywhere that THATS WHAT THEY CAN RESELL IT FOR.....you did
Mrs TS: and THAT, my friend, is lying, and sharking
OWNED!: The prices are not defined by Valve, nor they are defined by spreadsheets or any other price lists. The prices that are listed are almost always the average market price, as in what people are buying and selling for. Are you even sure lil' Timmy even wanted those earmuffs when he could've had a cool laser gun?o
OWNED!: that means nothing limits
OWNED!: i could tell someone that i am selling it for 10 keys and since he accepted ill just trade, nothing wrong
Mrs TS: lol.....clearly you are throwing up a smoke screen to quote everything under the sun except for....you know what you did was wrong
OWNED!: nope
OWNED!: im just trying to say i did nothing wrong
OWNED!: because of the following
OWNED!: prices are not defined by anything
Mrs TS: you did, you claimed he could resell an item based on nothing more then, you wanted to sell it
Mrs TS: so a person could sell you a darwins dander shield and tell you its 2 keys because you can sell it for 3 keys....and you find that acceptable
OWNED!: yes
Mrs TS: then you are a fool
OWNED!: if i were him i would have check the price first
Mrs TS: he couldnt check the price, there was none, he had only YOU to go by as a price is YOU !!!
OWNED!: then how could i know the price
Mrs TS: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198006366242-sharking-possible-alt.29986/ there you go, theres your report
OWNED!: all i could gage on was the absence of the lvl 105 in backpack.tf thus making it rare and obviously expensive
Mrs TS: have fun, were done here. Let the Admins sort it out.....your report is there for all to see
OWNED!: erm actually i dont really mind
Mrs TS: have a nice day
OWNED!: but how u phrase ur report
OWNED!: is weird
OWNED!: when i came to you to ask how much the botkiller was
OWNED!: i already sold it
OWNED!: to him
OWNED!: i just wanted to ask how much it was so i could help him resell
Mrs TS: OWNED!: Hey
OWNED!: How much would u offer for a lvl 105 botkiller mk 2 wrench
OWNED!: since he told me it wasnt worth 2 keys
Mrs TS: how could you have sold it, THEN come to me out of the blue asking me how much I would give for it
Mrs TS: that was from LAST NIGHT
Mrs TS: you added me out of the blue
Mrs TS: remember???
OWNED!: yeah i sold him yesterday afternoon
OWNED!: i think
OWNED!: yeah
OWNED!: i added
OWNED!: you
OWNED!: i asked you how much it was
OWNED!: did i?
OWNED!: wait i forgot
Mrs TS: oh, you sold it to him, then found me, just to ask me how much I would pay for soemthing you didnt have?
Mrs TS: boy, you are good.....to ask me a price after you sold something.....how does that work?
OWNED!: i was trying to help him.
OWNED!: god
OWNED!: i was trying to ask for the price
Mrs TS: so, you look for me out of thin air to ask me what something is worth, to help the guy
OWNED!: cause he told me he realised that it wasnt worth alot
OWNED!: fine let me tell u the conversation yesterday
Mrs TS: but, you wont help the guy now and repay him because you both found out afterwards that you overcharged him....by like 8 times???
OWNED!: i think i sold him 2 days ago
OWNED!: wait
Mrs TS: your full of s✿✿✿, the history shows it was NOT 2 days ago
OWNED!: yesterday he told me no one was willing to trade more and wanted a refund
OWNED!: then?
Mrs TS: then?
Mrs TS: you go looking for me to give you a price?
Mrs TS: LOL
OWNED!: i already sold it
OWNED!: when i asked u
OWNED!: i wanted to know how much it was
OWNED!: lol
Mrs TS: so, how many others did you ask
OWNED!: i sold to rcforme 2 days ago anyway
OWNED!: according to him
Mrs TS: you claim you thought you sold him something that ws valuable.....you then found out (which I dont believ....I believe you knew all along and sharked him on purpose)
Mrs TS: the bottom line is this.....
OWNED!: u infered so many things from just 1 chat
Mrs TS: you sold him something and claimed it to be worth X amount. He found out it wasnt, you lied and now.....you dont care
OWNED!: that i knew all along and sharked him
OWNED!: that this account is an alternate
Mrs TS: he accepted the trade based on what YOU told him, nothing else
OWNED!: if this is an alternate, go find my 'real' account
Mrs TS: not my job
OWNED!: u infer too much and come up with a ridiculous report that has little truth in it
Mrs TS: im reporting something in the TF2 trading community that looks fishy, let the steam reps decide if Im right or not
OWNED!: oh
OWNED!: luckily
Mrs TS: ok, like I said, let the Admins there decide
OWNED!: so if i dont have an alternate im saved right?
OWNED!: good
Mrs TS: if ever we talk again.....and we wont, I'll bring a shovel because you throw out an awful lot of bullshit lol
Mrs TS: see you on the other side
OWNED!: i think u are the one
OWNED!: talking bullshit
OWNED! is now Offline.

While it may be Steamreps policy in regards of 3rd party posts, people like this that walk the borderline of the rules, thinking they are totally immune to do unsavory things while trading, should be addressed.

Do with this report as you will but I had to clear my conscience that I at least alerted you fine people of someone like this.

Hello, while we appreciate the report we don't usually handle shark reports and we're overwhelmed with alts reports.

Due to the nature of this post, I urge you to report this into Mann co trading and/or outpost who handle these for action.

I'll archive.