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Rejected 76561198028732364 .4xL- (SOP Scammer)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI!, Aug 23, 2012.

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  1. .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI!

    .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI! New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:0:34233318
    steamID: .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI!
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:34233318
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028732364
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198028732364
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198028732364

    Hello guys. Im tagged as scammer from october. I tried to sell Haunted item as unusual. After that try 1 man reported me becouse he gave me Max Head for useless haunted item. After that i have bans on all trading communities. When i tried to delete that i tag i thought that i need to come back scammed items to that guy. Later i added to friend list Steamrep admin. His name was Rob (maybe now he has another name,couse i can't find him there). I spoke with him and he said that if i will come back scammed items he will delete the tag. I traded 33 keys to scammed man and after that i just got ignore from Rob. It was no fake or something like that becouse i found him in that site like official admin. After tag (SOP SCAMMER) i have done many fair and smooth trades. People change. I 10 months is good period to realize my mistakes. I just want to trade to ppl my items. So and i gave back scammed items and got unmanner ignore from admin. Help to me please. Life has changed for 10 month. So if you understand my bad english - help me please.
  2. .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI!

    .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI! New User

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    I can proof that i gave back scammed items. I found account of victim. He can prove that i gave back 33 keys for him and got ignore from admin. NICK of steamrep admin was Rob. I cant find him now. Maybe he changed nickname? Help me
  3. .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI!

    .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI! New User

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    .4xL-@DAVI NA'VI! New User

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    bump. rob is marked as scammer on steamrep.com now. From Admin to Scammer ;D
  5. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    additional report
    http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php...pic&t=77628&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=84

    edit:
    After speaking to you and consulting another admin, with 2 scam attempts and 2 successful scams (just ones we know about) it is just too much to overlook for a successful appeal no matter how sorry you are or if you paid the users back or not. Appeal Denied.

    Admitted to scamming 1-2 others, selectively provided trade history (looking at the scroll bar he cut out a bunch of the trades from his screenshots) and anything else was done in game trade so near impossible to dig up, including via bp history (i tired and it was so long ago one vic didn't recall
    Sunday, September 23, 2012
    6:03 AM - You Are The One: hello,
    6:04 AM - You Are The One: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198028732364-4xl-sop-scammer.9688/ so i was wondering what more did you have to add.
    6:04 AM - You Are The One: its kinda clear you were scamming so why should your tag be removed?
    6:05 AM - .4xL-: becouse i understood that i did bad thing. i gave back all scamed items. after 1 year i have done so many succesfull trades. sold items for money without any problems. and now im another persono.
    6:06 AM - You Are The One: His information:
    steamID: sfg..4xL-
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:34233318
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028732364
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198028732364
    steamrepURL: http://www.steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028732364

    He initiated a trade with me in TF2 while I was organizing my backpack and put up a sunbeams Soldiers Stash and asked if I was trading my "demoman unusual". I had been trying to sell my Green Energy Scotch Bonnet. I but the Bonnet up and I noticed in the chat it said he had changed his offer, so I checked and it was a fetti Stash now. I told him to switch back to the other one and he immediately canceled. I really can't provide and farther proof other than his backpack which has the two hats in it. http://www.tf2items.com/id/76561198028732364
    It makes me wonder how he got all of those unusuals...
    6:06 AM - You Are The One: i keep finding new reports on you
    6:06 AM - .4xL-: yep,i did many bad things in past
    6:06 AM - You Are The One: how many people did you scam
    6:07 AM - You Are The One: I dont think thier is much I can do
    6:07 AM - .4xL-: 2
    6:07 AM - .4xL-: 1 with that way
    6:07 AM - .4xL-: 1 with haunted item
    6:07 AM - .4xL-: im ready to gave back all scammed items
    6:08 AM - .4xL-: oh
    6:08 AM - .4xL-: and i want to report the scammer
    6:08 AM - .4xL-: if you will listen to me
    6:08 AM - .4xL-: he tried to scam me and my friend 4 days ago
    6:08 AM - .4xL-: my friend gave to him 3 unusuals
    6:08 AM - .4xL-: i dont
    6:11 AM - You Are The One: I dont deal with reports
    6:11 AM - You Are The One: how many people did you scam in total?
    6:11 AM - You Are The One: and how many have you repaid?
    6:11 AM - .4xL-: 2 or 3 i think
    6:11 AM - .4xL-: repaid for unusuals?
    6:12 AM - .4xL-: i gave 6 unusuals or something like that for burning bonk boy D:
    6:12 AM - .4xL-: becouse i wanted that item so much
    6:13 AM - .4xL-: for that 1 year all trades was smooth
    6:14 AM - You Are The One: who did you scam
    6:15 AM - You Are The One: link me
    6:15 AM - .4xL-: 1 or 2 times i replaced unusuals
    6:15 AM - You Are The One: screenshot your trade history
    6:15 AM - You Are The One: for the people you scammed
    6:15 AM - You Are The One: and you repaying them
    6:15 AM - .4xL-: it will be so hard to find,but i will do that
    6:16 AM - You Are The One: you have at least 1 scam and 2 attempts, and you said yourself you scammed 2-3 people so they are other cases becides what we have on you
    6:16 AM - .4xL-: yep
    6:16 AM - .4xL-: im going to inventory history
    6:19 AM - .4xL-: hm,if my friend gave me unusual as present i dont need to make a screenshot?
    6:19 AM - .4xL-: my friend can prove it
    6:19 AM - .4xL-: proof*
    6:21 AM - .4xL-: i checked 4 last pages from inventory
    6:21 AM - .4xL-: there is no scam trades
    6:21 AM - .4xL-: becouse i did it when there wasn't steam trade
    6:21 AM - .4xL-: only tf2 trade
    6:21 AM - You Are The One: taht is not really helpful
    6:22 AM - .4xL-: rly i can provide screenshots of all history
    6:22 AM - You Are The One: well, I dont think ill waste any more of you time, simply, you have too many offences against you.
    6:22 AM - .4xL-: wait
    6:22 AM - .4xL-: maybe i can go to the blocked users
    6:22 AM - .4xL-: blocked friends
    6:22 AM - .4xL-: becouse i blocked ppl what i scammed
    6:23 AM - You Are The One: would rather you check via trade history
    6:23 AM - You Are The One: and screencap it
    6:23 AM - .4xL-: ok,i will check second time
    6:27 AM - .4xL-: how can i check tf2 trade history from 2010 year?
    6:27 AM - You Are The One: no clue, but most of these reprots are from fall of last year
    6:28 AM - .4xL-: yep,but i did all trades with tf2 and few trade via steam trade
    6:28 AM - .4xL-: http://cs315723.userapi.com/v315723428/11c2/9glNOqVfetM.jpg
    6:28 AM - .4xL-: like that
    6:29 AM - .4xL-: i can make screenshots of all 12 pages of inventory
    6:29 AM - .4xL-: and you will see by yourself
    6:30 AM - You Are The One: who is FAER78?
    6:30 AM - .4xL-: idk
    6:30 AM - .4xL-: where you found him?
    6:30 AM - You Are The One: that does not matter
    6:30 AM - You Are The One: im asking if you know him
    6:30 AM - .4xL-: maybe i had a trade with him
    6:31 AM - .4xL-: so i dont know rly
    6:31 AM - You Are The One: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198022120597
    6:32 AM - You Are The One: so you have no clue who that is?
    6:32 AM - .4xL-: nope. let me check joint friends and trade history with him
    6:33 AM - .4xL-: so he is from russian community
    6:33 AM - You Are The One: where do you live?
    6:33 AM - .4xL-: in ukraine
    6:33 AM - You Are The One: Simferopol?
    6:33 AM - .4xL-: why you need my country and city?
    6:34 AM - You Are The One: well I kinda already know
    6:34 AM - You Are The One: just looking for clarification
    6:34 AM - .4xL-: why you need clarification?
    6:34 AM - .4xL-: i dont know faer78
    6:35 AM - You Are The One: do you have thoes screenshots?
    6:35 AM - .4xL-: screenshots of what?
    6:35 AM - .4xL-: of scam trades?
    6:35 AM - You Are The One: trade history
    6:35 AM - .4xL-: so you need them? i will make it now if you need
    6:35 AM - You Are The One: I think i asked, yes
    6:35 AM - .4xL-: okay
    6:35 AM - .4xL-: i will do that
    6:36 AM - .4xL-: there will be something like 100+ photos
    6:36 AM - .4xL-: so you need to wait
    6:36 AM - You Are The One: you said only 12 pages?
    6:36 AM - .4xL-: yep
    6:36 AM - .4xL-: but they are too long
    6:36 AM - .4xL-: 3-4 screenshots on 1 page
    6:37 AM - You Are The One: well for now, dont bother
    6:37 AM - You Are The One: how many other accoutns do you have?
    6:37 AM - .4xL-: i have 1 account with garrys mod and tf2
    6:38 AM - .4xL-: and i used friend account to use sites like tf2outpost
    6:38 AM - .4xL-: they r blocked too
    6:38 AM - .4xL-: i will link them
    6:39 AM - .4xL-: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198018500796
    6:40 AM - .4xL-: that account i never use
    6:40 AM - .4xL-: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198016135918
    6:40 AM - .4xL-: that account from my friend
    6:40 AM - .4xL-: he plays dota on that account
    6:46 AM - .4xL-: there is page number 12
    6:47 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/hmQM8.png
    6:47 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/c7wfp.png
    6:47 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/DBn9b.png
    6:47 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/reSHi.png
    6:50 AM - .4xL-: page number 11
    6:50 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/oIAgc.png
    6:50 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/lp9gV.png
    6:50 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/8FR0A.png
    6:50 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/6g7IV.png
    6:51 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/a74xp.png
    6:51 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/GG2AA.png
    6:51 AM - .4xL-: Are you here?
    6:53 AM - You Are The One: yes
    6:54 AM - .4xL-: page number 10
    6:54 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/YGvUd.png
    6:54 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/x9lqi.png
    6:54 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/6gVlt.png
    6:54 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/yca3s.png
    6:54 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/bQ36C.png
    6:56 AM - .4xL-: now comes final page of tf2 trades and new century of dota trades
    6:56 AM - .4xL-: when i finished tf2 trade i sold all items for money
    6:56 AM - .4xL-: half on englush community
    6:56 AM - .4xL-: half on russian community
    6:58 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/pQyCw.png
    6:58 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/7V9HU.png
    6:58 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/4h6OB.png
    6:58 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/UKLxL.png
    6:58 AM - .4xL-: http://i.imgur.com/e8hOJ.png
    6:59 AM - .4xL-: Done. I dont think that i need to copy so much trades (9 pages) with dota trades . common for uncommon or something like that. But if you want- i will do that
    7:04 AM - You Are The One: so you are not able to locate the others that you scammed?
    7:05 AM - .4xL-: i gve to you last 3 pages of trade history. i can copy another 8 pages. but i dont think that you will find scam there
    7:05 AM - .4xL-: so,i copy or no?
    7:05 AM - You Are The One: but otherwise you are unable to know who you scammed?
    7:06 AM - .4xL-: i did 2 or 3 trades by tf2. steam dont show tf2 trades. i will look at blocked friends and maybe i will found them. and on sourceop when ppl report me you can check their steam profile
    7:06 AM - .4xL-: let me do that
    7:09 AM - .4xL-: if i want to delete tag i need to fing all scammed persons,right?
    7:10 AM - You Are The One: taht would be helpful to your appeal
    7:11 AM - .4xL-: rly its so hard to find that man. but i remember his steam avatar and trade. i replaced soldiers stash and he gave me steaming dragonborn helmet
    7:11 AM - You Are The One: so yes or ?
    7:11 AM - .4xL-: give me some time
    7:11 AM - .4xL-: i need to check all blocked users
    7:17 AM - .4xL-: i know the way how to find that man
    7:18 AM - .4xL-: f✿✿✿ yeah
    7:18 AM - .4xL-: i will go to tf2items
    7:18 AM - .4xL-: and went to october 2011
    7:18 AM - .4xL-: find my stash
    7:18 AM - .4xL-: and check history of stash
    7:18 AM - You Are The One: btw, where is the max head?
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: ahah
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: cool story
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: after 2 days
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: after that trade
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: russian middleman
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: and girl
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: with nickname Kseniya
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: wanted to buy it for russian money
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: she gave me so good offer
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: i checked their steamrep
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: all was clean
    7:19 AM - .4xL-: i gave max head
    7:20 AM - .4xL-: and i wanted to gave my sunmbeams tossle
    7:20 AM - .4xL-: thx for god i didnt do that
    7:20 AM - .4xL-: there was a copy of real rus middleman
    7:20 AM - .4xL-: so i gave keys for man i scammed
    7:20 AM - You Are The One: why do i not see that trade in your trade history then?
    7:20 AM - .4xL-: i dont know,let me check
    7:25 AM - .4xL-: cant find any max head trades too. when i recieved max head it was tf2 trade. when i sold max head for fake that was steam trade. i will check history of my bp and find history of max head
    .4xL- is now Offline.
    .4xL- is now Online.
    7:26 AM - You Are The One: anyhow dig that info up
    7:26 AM - You Are The One: ill bbl
    7:26 AM - .4xL-: k
    7:34 AM - .4xL-: 16 of november 2011 - i had max head. on 17 of november- i dont had max head. so i sold it on 17 of november. when im trying to click on it it says Error: The item specified (550641785) was not found in the database.
    7:35 AM - .4xL-: i will use another backpack viewer
    7:37 AM - .4xL-: i cant check history of regular items. only history of unusuals. i will try to check it with another viewer
    7:38 AM - .4xL-: on tf2b.com i cant check bp history.
    7:38 AM - .4xL-: i will try to fing another backpack viewer. if no chance with max head i will look at stash with confetti history
    7:42 AM - .4xL-: max head on http://www.tf2items.com/id/76561198028732364?time=1321493214
    7:42 AM - .4xL-: max head off http://www.tf2items.com/id/76561198028732364?time=1321583378
    7:42 AM - .4xL-: you can check it by yourself . it dont show the history
    7:43 AM - .4xL-: we can add [DeX]jamesderf-CwG- the man i scammed. he is old owner of max head. i will try to fing that scammer on russian community
    7:43 AM - You Are The One: I already know about him
    7:43 AM - You Are The One: im wondering about the ohters you scammed
    7:44 AM - .4xL-: i will try to fing that kseniya
    7:44 AM - .4xL-: you need fake middleman?
    7:44 AM - You Are The One: im not talking about who scammed you
    7:44 AM - You Are The One: im talking about others you have scammed
    7:44 AM - .4xL-: but you asked where is max head. ok,i will find scammed man with a green confetti stash
    7:46 AM - You Are The One: ahh yes, was mearly looking for the trade when you traded it away
    7:46 AM - .4xL-: succes
    7:46 AM - You Are The One: but more interested in the others you scammed
    7:46 AM - .4xL-: found that man
    7:46 AM - .4xL-: http://www.tf2items.com/item/513390594
    7:46 AM - .4xL-: look at that
    7:46 AM - .4xL-: last owner of that hat is prymal
    7:47 AM - You Are The One: so tht is a hat you scammed?
    7:48 AM - .4xL-: yep.
    7:48 AM - .4xL-: i replaced sunbeams with green fetti
    7:48 AM - .4xL-: and he accepted the trade
    7:48 AM - .4xL-: you cant see it in steam trade history couse it was tf2 trade
    7:50 AM - .4xL-: http://steamcommunity.com/id/PryMaL/
    7:50 AM - .4xL-: his steam profile
    7:51 AM - .4xL-: he still have that hat in inventory
    7:51 AM - You Are The One: and what did he trade you?
    7:51 AM - .4xL-: ask it to him,i dont remember. or i will add him and ask him
    7:51 AM - You Are The One: dont bother
    7:52 AM - You Are The One: ill check
    7:52 AM - .4xL-: okay
    8:08 AM - You Are The One: anything else you want to add?
    8:08 AM - .4xL-: i tried to scam with 4 times. only 2 times was succesfull
    8:09 AM - .4xL-: and you have link of that trades
    8:09 AM - .4xL-: now i have nothing to add
    8:09 AM - .4xL-: i can add that i was good trader without any problems for 1 year
    8:09 AM - .4xL-: and won't be bad
    8:09 AM - You Are The One: the provided trade history is kinda a wash because some trades are not listed
    8:10 AM - .4xL-: not some trades. all trade in tf2
    8:10 AM - .4xL-: all steam trades i gave to you
    8:11 AM - .4xL-: can i go afk for 1 hour?
    8:11 AM - You Are The One: Im almost done
    8:11 AM - .4xL-: okay,thx man
    8:12 AM - .4xL-: hope i helped you
    8:13 AM - You Are The One: I thank you for providing as much info as you could but it will not be enough for a sucessful appeal, basically too many offences against you.
    8:15 AM - .4xL-: Okay. I hope will do all what you can. If you will find some another offences im ready to explain and discharge it. I think you won't find any of these.Again thx you so much. You gave me some hope.
    8:18 AM - You Are The One: Im extreamly strict with my communities tags and cannot make exceptions, im sorry.
    8:18 AM - .4xL-: But i have some chance,yes?
    8:18 AM - You Are The One: no
    8:18 AM - You Are The One: sorry
    8:19 AM - .4xL-: why?
    8:19 AM - .4xL-: i gave to you all trades
    8:19 AM - You Are The One: you have multiple scams/attempted scams
    8:19 AM - You Are The One: simply too many offences against you
    8:19 AM - .4xL-: can you show them
    8:20 AM - You Are The One: show what exactly?
    8:20 AM - You Are The One: the offences?
    8:20 AM - .4xL-: another scams. i can proof all trades
    8:20 AM - .4xL-: yep
    8:20 AM - You Are The One: the 2 listed on your sr page
    8:20 AM - You Are The One: the additional one i found and copy/pasted you
    8:20 AM - .4xL-: and i gave back items of that trades
    8:20 AM - You Are The One: and the one you mentioned to me
    8:21 AM - .4xL-: and that one copipasted i proofed too. i gave to you link
    8:21 AM - .4xL-: i can gave back to him his items
    8:21 AM - You Are The One: giving back is not an automatic way out
    8:21 AM - .4xL-: but 1 year gone
    8:21 AM - You Are The One: its taken into account
    8:21 AM - .4xL-: and people change
    8:21 AM - You Are The One: Im sorry, I cannot grant the appeal
    8:22 AM - .4xL-: why i wasted 3 hours of my life?
    8:22 AM - You Are The One: if all you wanted was an untag then you should not have bothered with an appeal
    8:22 AM - .4xL-: and i was waiting for that day for 1 month
    8:22 AM - You Are The One: if people are wrongly marked or some circumstances overlooked
    8:23 AM - You Are The One: they may get graneted
    8:23 AM - You Are The One: not in your case tho
    8:23 AM - .4xL-: but if i waited for untag till 1 year. i tried to be polite trader and dont scam anyone. and i gave back items for that trader.
    8:23 AM - You Are The One: tags are not timed
    8:24 AM - You Are The One: otherwise people would scam get makred appeal and after a year be free to scam again
    8:25 AM - .4xL-: but you can give to me trial period. i haven't scam anyone for 1 year. people can scam with tag and without tag. i swear,i won't do something bad again. you can give to me trial period
    8:25 AM - You Are The One: Im sorry, I cant do anything more, I have a few minutes left to answer any last questions you have.
    8:26 AM - You Are The One: we dont have the time or resources to monitor ex-scammers
    8:26 AM - You Are The One: we have a hard time doing appeals
    8:26 AM - You Are The One: as is
    8:26 AM - .4xL-: so question number 1
    8:26 AM - .4xL-: if people pay for untag
    8:26 AM - .4xL-: is it real?
    8:26 AM - You Are The One: what?
    8:26 AM - You Are The One: you mean a bribe?
    8:26 AM - You Are The One: we dotn take bribs
    8:27 AM - .4xL-: even 50.000$? :D
    8:27 AM - You Are The One: even over 9,000 dollars
    8:27 AM - .4xL-: D:
    8:28 AM - .4xL-: if i will provied screenshots of any trade i will do i will have a chance? find another scams i did. im ready to payback items
    8:28 AM - .4xL-: i need trial period
    8:28 AM - You Are The One: as stated above we cant do that
    8:28 AM - .4xL-: why i saw untagged people
    8:29 AM - .4xL-: they was like me
    8:30 AM - You Are The One: every case is different, they may have only attempted to scam and not actually scam, that is an example.
    8:30 AM - You Are The One: I have 2 minutes so any last questions?
    8:30 AM - .4xL-: if you knew that i cant be untagged why you asked for screenshots another trades?
    8:31 AM - You Are The One: because I did not decide to deny your appeal until after speaking to you
    8:31 AM - You Are The One: otherwise I would not have wasted my 2 1/2 hours aswell
    8:31 AM - .4xL-: why you dont understand that im another man now D:
    8:32 AM - You Are The One: because every new trader starts off with inherent trustability
    8:32 AM - You Are The One: once you lose it,
    8:32 AM - You Are The One: its gone
    8:33 AM - .4xL-: if you lose any item in the real life you can go to police and find it. always people have second chance. or prisoners have a trial time.
    8:33 AM - You Are The One: let me show you an example
    8:33 AM - You Are The One: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198009629194-skela-sop-scammer.10720/
    8:33 AM - You Are The One: you can view that correct?
    8:33 AM - .4xL-: yep
    8:33 AM - You Are The One: I never bothered speaking with that guy
    8:34 AM - You Are The One: instantly denied
    8:34 AM - You Are The One: lied during his first appeal
    8:34 AM - .4xL-: but i dont lie to you
    8:34 AM - .4xL-: i did all what i can
    8:34 AM - .4xL-: i provide all history
    8:34 AM - You Are The One: If I didtn think their was any chance, i would not be speaking to you
    8:35 AM - .4xL-: but i had a chance,yep?
    8:35 AM - .4xL-: i scammed only 2 man
    8:35 AM - .4xL-: i can discharge that trades
    8:36 AM - You Are The One: 2 scams 2 atempted scams
    8:36 AM - You Are The One: its just too much to overlook
    8:36 AM - You Are The One: sorry
    8:37 AM - You Are The One: anyhow, my time is up
    8:37 AM - .4xL-: Please,i can gave all items back for atemped scams and to scammed people. I need a second chance :(
    8:37 AM - .4xL-: i did all 4 for 1 week
    8:37 AM - .4xL-: not till all year
    8:37 AM - .4xL-: so you can count it like 1 big scam for 1 week
    8:38 AM - You Are The One: I simply cannot allow exceptions nor have the resources to followup if I did so.
    8:39 AM - .4xL-: can you ask for another admins. beggin you. i swear,i will be good trader. maybe another admins can give to me any chance
    8:40 AM - You Are The One: only 2 admins can review judgements and under very strict criteria, myself and the head appeal admin, if you give me a min i can breifly ask him,
    8:40 AM - .4xL-: okay,please
    8:40 AM - .4xL-: i swear i will be good
    8:41 AM - .4xL-: give me trial time. i will give to you screenshot of any trade
    8:41 AM - You Are The One: its very very unlikely he will approve
    8:41 AM - You Are The One: but ill ask
    8:42 AM - .4xL-: add him to a chat if you can
    8:42 AM - .4xL-: and admin of dota2traders.com
    8:42 AM - .4xL-: Leon
    8:42 AM - .4xL-: said that if i will provied all screenshots it will help me
    8:43 AM - .4xL-: he said that when i sold unusual for money
    8:43 AM - .4xL-: that was smooth trade
    8:43 AM - .4xL-: that admin helped me to apperal a judgement
    Your chat with .4xL- is now a multi-user chat.
    .4xL- has been invited to chat.
    atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2 has been invited to chat.
    atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2 entered chat.
    Sunday, September 23, 2012
    8:49 AM - .4xL-: Hello
    8:49 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: hi 4xl
    8:50 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: I understand you asked for another admin to review your case?
    8:50 AM - .4xL-: Yes
    8:50 AM - .4xL-: I provided all screenshots of trading history
    8:50 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: you are the one has shown me what has been found and has told me the decision
    8:51 AM - .4xL-: He said he will write to you and maybe you will give me a second chance
    8:51 AM - .4xL-: Admin of dota2traders.com helped me to appearl a judgement
    8:51 AM - .4xL-: he said if i will provide screenshots apperal will succes
    8:51 AM - .4xL-: and i also gave back scammed items to traders
    8:52 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: when did you start paying those you scammed back?
    8:52 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: when did you initiate that process?
    8:52 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: have you already done so on your own?
    8:52 AM - .4xL-: i did it in november
    8:52 AM - .4xL-: i have a screenshot
    8:52 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: last november?
    8:52 AM - .4xL-: yes
    8:52 AM - .4xL-: admin of steamrep
    8:52 AM - .4xL-: name Rob
    8:53 AM - .4xL-: said that he will untag me if i come back items
    8:53 AM - .4xL-: but he just blocked me
    8:53 AM - .4xL-: now he is not admin
    8:53 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: how about the other scams which you have admitted to?
    8:53 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: how about ALL the victims you had scammed?
    8:53 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: from novermber till now, have you returned their items?
    8:53 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: I am not talking about just that one instance, I am referring to ALL the scams you have undertaken
    8:53 AM - .4xL-: i gave link to you are the one. i scammed 2 people and i have 2 attentions
    8:54 AM - .4xL-: i didnt give items just to 1 person. becouse i found him 1 hour ago.
    8:54 AM - .4xL-: i can do it
    8:54 AM - .4xL-: also you are the one spoke with that person
    8:54 AM - .4xL-: in total i scammed 2 people
    8:54 AM - .4xL-: and i have 2 attempt
    8:54 AM - .4xL-: http://steamcommunity.com/id/PryMaL/
    8:55 AM - .4xL-: here is a link
    8:55 AM - .4xL-: he still have my unusual
    8:55 AM - .4xL-: for 1 year
    8:57 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: quite simply, the reality is, even if you do return the items to your victims you have too many scam/scam attempts to overlook
    8:57 AM - .4xL-: i gave to you are the one screenshots of all trading history and all my alt accounts
    8:57 AM - .4xL-: i have 4 attempts
    8:57 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: you are an ongoing liability to the community if we remove the tag, that is a risk we are not prepared to take.
    8:57 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: 1 is bad enough.
    8:57 AM - .4xL-: 2 attempts and 2 tags
    8:57 AM - .4xL-: 2 attempts and 2 scams
    8:57 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: do you see the part where that is bad?
    8:57 AM - .4xL-: i gave back items for 1 scam and im ready to gave back items for second scam
    8:58 AM - .4xL-: nope
    8:58 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: well to put it into perspective, 99% of traders conduct 0 scams.
    8:58 AM - .4xL-: i can apologize to people that i didnt scam and give to them some gifts
    8:59 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: I will repeat, we will have to deny your appeal. 4 attempts, 2 successful is too risky for us to untag you.
    8:59 AM - .4xL-: i just want to be untagged. couse its so hard to trade with tag. for 1 trade i had any bad trades.
    8:59 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: we will do a dis service to the communnity if we do
    8:59 AM - .4xL-: you can give me trial time
    8:59 AM - .4xL-: and i will provide screenshots for everyweek
    8:59 AM - .4xL-: screenshots of trades
    8:59 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: there is no trial time unfortunately, you have simply scammed too many times
    8:59 AM - You Are The One: we cant keep tabs of everyone if we gave all trial runs
    8:59 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: we do not have the resouces to do that
    8:59 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: ^
    8:59 AM - You Are The One: ^
    9:00 AM - .4xL-: we can speak with people who i scammed
    9:00 AM - You Are The One: I think we are done now,
    9:00 AM - .4xL-: I can have a chance. i swear i won't do anything bad again. I was polite trader for 1 year
    9:00 AM - .4xL-: i provided all screenshots
    9:01 AM - You Are The One: sorry
    9:01 AM - .4xL-: and 2 attempts and 2 scams its normal number
    9:01 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: 4xL, best of luck sir, this is the decision, there is nothing else we can do for you now.
    9:01 AM - You Are The One: no,
    9:01 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: 0 is a normal number.
    9:01 AM - You Are The One: 0 is a normal number
    9:01 AM - You Are The One: ^
    9:01 AM - .4xL-: but i gave back all scamed items
    9:01 AM - .4xL-: i wasted them ?
    9:01 AM - .4xL-: please guys,people change
    9:01 AM - .4xL-: and i did all 4 trades for 1 week
    9:02 AM - .4xL-: that was a sh***y period
    9:02 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: good luck in the future, maybe see this as a life lesson, do not deceive and do not do wrong by people
    9:02 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: good luck.
    atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2 left chat.
    9:02 AM - .4xL-: i will kill myself now
    9:02 AM - You Are The One: dont do that
    9:02 AM - .4xL-: i wasted 1 year
    9:02 AM - .4xL-: im shaking and crying
    9:02 AM - .4xL-: my head is burning
    9:03 AM - .4xL-: 4 is not so much
    9:03 AM - .4xL-: and 2 trades wasn't succesfull
    9:03 AM - .4xL-: its just attempt
    9:03 AM - You Are The One: good luck
    9:03 AM - .4xL-: :(
    9:04 AM - .4xL-: you raped my life
    9:04 AM - You Are The One: no, you did.
    .4xL- was kicked by You Are The One.

    chat w/atom while speaking to the user last 20 mins of appeal.
    8:41 AM - You Are The One: can you review an appeal at the users request
    8:41 AM - You Are The One: i denied it and hes begging,
    8:42 AM - You Are The One: told him i would have you peek at it
    8:42 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: does he feel you have been unfair?
    8:42 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: sure
    8:42 AM - You Are The One: no
    8:42 AM - You Are The One: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198028732364-4xl-sop-scammer.9688/
    8:42 AM - You Are The One: chat in my last post
    atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2 is now playing Counter-Strike: Source. Click here to join.
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    8:47 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: there comes a point where the gravity of the offence is too onerous for him or yourself to remedy. You were right, he has been too prolific in his scam/scam attempts
    8:48 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: he even hinted a bribe lol
    8:48 AM - You Are The One: mind jumping in chat breifly w/him,
    8:48 AM - You Are The One: i just want him to go away now
    8:48 AM - You Are The One: :/
    8:48 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: haha
    8:48 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: ok lets do this
    8:53 AM - You Are The One: usually im the bad cop, guess im the good cop for once,
    8:54 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: heh
    8:54 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: 2 and 2
    8:54 AM - You Are The One: at least, yes
    8:54 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: do you think there may be more?
    8:54 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: it appears to me there would be.
    8:55 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: how about moving forward, he returns the items as a goodwill gesture
    8:55 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: if we deny it now, no restoration has taken place
    8:56 AM - You Are The One: I dotn want to mislead him into falsly thinking that it would be overturned when in realily he has no chance, but idk,
    8:56 AM - You Are The One: im going too soft
    8:56 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: fair enough
    8:56 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: lets wrap this up
    8:56 AM - You Are The One: my thing was just saying too many offences that cant be overlockked
    8:56 AM - You Are The One: overlooked*
    8:56 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: yeh and I would agree
    8:58 AM - You Are The One: facedesk
    8:58 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: yep.
    9:00 AM - You Are The One: ty
    9:01 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: lol
    9:01 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: peas in a pod
    9:01 AM - You Are The One: ninjad
    9:01 AM - You Are The One: time to leave chat
    9:02 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: cya
    9:02 AM - You Are The One: ty agian
    9:02 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: all good
    9:02 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: there were some cringe moments there
    9:03 AM - You Are The One: 4 is normal
    9:03 AM - You Are The One: new sig
    9:03 AM - atom- 3000+ hrs of TF2: haha

    12:40 PM - [DeX]jamesderf-CwG-: http://s672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/jamesderf/scammer/
    12:40 PM - [DeX]jamesderf-CwG-: password is scammer
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