Victims: steamID: Walter White Junior steamID32: STEAM_0:0:32852816 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198025971360 customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/omnipotent9 steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198025971360 steamID: Dalton steamID32: STEAM_0:0:40162294 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198040590316 customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/keysellersinc steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198040590316 Scammer (impersonator): steamID: Durner steamID32: STEAM_0:1:44336562 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048938853 customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/kllltolahna steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198048938853 Scammer's suspected main account: steamID: mah.ninja steamID32: STEAM_0:1:34714132 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198029693993 customURL: steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198029693993 Description: Yesterday this impersonator of mine (Durner) scammed Walter White Junior's (first victim) Blizzardy storm Furious Fukaamigasa http://gyazo.com/3ffb1f82b2efb4146f89cc613c69effc. He contacted me later and told me what had happened. He also mentioned that just couple minutes after the trade this very same fukaamigasa which was scammed from Walter appeared in the inventory of mah.ninja. It was trasferred so quickly from the inventory of my impersonator (Durner) to mah.ninja's inventory that it didn't even leave a item history mark on the item. A bit later Dalton (second victim) contacted me and told me the same things (that I was being impersonated) and told me that my impersonator (Durner) had stolen his VOT Bills hat http://gyazo.com/9b7b727db962ac0fbd09ff15fa8fb406. I searched mah.ninjas (impersonator's suspected main account) inventory and found Dalton's VOT bill's hat there. I also found a steaming soldier's stash in mah.ninja's inventory. The steaming stash has been owned previously by this user http://steamrep.com/?id=76561198043968328 who has always had a different version of name "Scatman" http://gyazo.com/2f9f0d45833fd22b7e202b48add9d71d I don't believe in coincidences so I don't believe it's a coincidence that the first name of my impersonator (Durner) before he copied all my previous names was "Scatman" http://gyazo.com/2710703dfcade56ed9af7e94418d8fa1 Today I found out that mah.ninja had set his inventory to private and steam profile privacy to "friends only" (both of them were public before today) which makes me suspect him even more. In-a-nutshell: I don't know if I provided this proof in the approved form or not but what comes to the proof: using common sense is "approved". it's crystal clear that this mah.ninja is either an alt, or (most likely) my impersonator's main account. What makes this case even more messy however is that Dalton (another of the victims) is now banned permanently from tf2outpost with a mark "scammer" and now owns both his former VOT Bill's Hat and the scammed steaming soldiers stash... A messy case...
Thank you so much for typing this out durner. I've been sitting on and updating a steam support ticket that hasnt been answered yet :/
This is a messy case, but it's how it is and I hope this case doesn't get any less attention because of it. Walter White Junior contacted me today and this is the conversation we had http://gyazo.com/47289c53ab4edeb14f8cc3ffa042d1e9 I got a fishy feeling after this and did some more research. Here's a conversation which Walter White Junior had with Dallas (former South) http://pastebin.com/5Eqp28V8 and http://pastebin.com/NtuLHeFt It almost looks like that my banned impersonator Durner, banned scammer Scatman, this mah.ninja and the banned (victim?) Dallas is all in the same plot? Or is it just that Dallas grew tired and scammed mah.ninja in revenge? Don't know what do do with this.
No problem. I hate scammers and especially devious ones. Besides I can't sit on my ass when some scum uses my reputation to scam people.
Want to explain my self,so please the admin in charge of this report add me. Already added Durner to explain him everything... Waiting for his response. this is a huge misunderstanding...
You can start by explaining how Dalton's Bill's Hat and Walter White Junior's Blizzardy Fukaamigasa were transferred from my impersonator's http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198048938853 account to your account so quickly that the process didn't even leave mark on the trade histories. According to Walter White Junior he found his hat in your inventory just a moment after my impersonator had scammed it from him. Unusuals doesn't move from one account to another so quickly if the business which your'e doing is legitimate. Also why did you turn your steam profile to friends only and your backpack to private two days ago/yesteday after you found out that you were accused of scamming? Seems that you've also quickly sold all your unusuals for what seems to be a rather cheap price.
First i did not used that "alt account" of yours,never,and i don't know who did it. I was selling already selling in tf2outpost a Strange gold botkiller and a bad unusual (quickselling it for 20 keys,a Tam o'shanter with orbiting fire,really ugly),so when i was refreshing the page i see this "Durner" trade,quickselling 2 high tier unusual,bills (i think they were 3) for a really low price.For my luck i watched the trade as fast he created it. So i added him,He was connected and accepted me almost immediately,He seemed a really nice dude,showed me his rep (Steam rep,source op thread,verified paypal account) so everything was right. Two little things were that: he was rushing me (but being polite,nothing suspicious 4 me),and didn't have any hours on tf2 (That i asked why and he responded that he have 2 accounts. Originally he traded with his main but got hijacked or something like that and created another one just for trading).Then he went first (The trade was,fukaamigasa,stash and bills for 100$,cmo'n who wouldn't accept that after the rep and all the good things),after that i sended the money to his paypal,he sayed thanks and we never talked again. What happened after 2 days ? Walter added me,he told me that i scammed his hats,and i was like wtf, ¿I did something ?. He explained his fukaamigasa situation and everything,finally my fukaamigasa was the same he had. (TF2 ITEM checked,the worst is that we made that trade so quick that "Durner" didn't appeared in the historial list of the owner of that hat,so i was pretty much screwed just for buying scammed hats and i swear for god that i didn't know anything... (now that explain the rush situation). Then,told to Walter that i buyed the hats completely legally...so i can't do anything... Between all this i was ALREADY (in tf2op) selling this hat for they regular price (tf2pricecheck price),the desc trade sayed "ADD ME FOR QUICK TRADE IF U ARE GOING TO PAY THE B/O,INSTEAD OFFER BELOW" (i don't see anything bad there if u are paying the b/o why bothering making a 3 hours trade) Finally 2
Sorry,refreshed the page and lost all what i writed -. Okey. Finally 2 days ago This South (Dalton) adds me and tells me that those hat were from him,that they were scammed,the same thing that walted sayed.. At this point i was sick of that,and i wasn't risking my account for something that it wasn't my fault,even more for a couple of dirty buds,so i trade them back to him.For my luck AGAIN he didn't were the original owner of those hats,so he SCAMMED me. Inmediatly added a tf2op admin,told him the situation,with pictures and everything and banned him. After that,talked to walter,explained all the situation and ended that South/Dalton ALSO deleted and blocked him. (After two days changed his name to Dalton). At this time i didn't know what to do,i was looking like AS SCAMMER when all i did was buying some hats the CORRECT WAY,that resulted SCAMMED and i didn't know ANYTHING about that. Also TRIED to help the victims as far i could do...but one of the "victims" scammed me,so i turned all my profile in private so any of this a***oles could't add me,talk me or even watch my profile. I was suspecting of all (out of my original friends),so closed the trade in tf2outpost and didn't know anything else or have any other problem after that. So i explained the original situation,i was involved in a really ugly situation where i was the idiot who ended like the scammer when i did nothing.. (More than acting by fear..i recognize that i should't traded the items to Dalton..i just was sick of hearing that i was a scammer,understand me) Okey..hope that i cleaned a little bit of this messy situation and sorry for all the problems i may caused NOT in porpouse,especially to Durner and Walter btw: i got my money back,chargeback the money via paypal edit: sorry for my bad english...
Unusual furious fukaamigasa : http://www.tf2items.com/item/1063444287 ( "Joel" Have it,dalton do not appear in the historial,quick traded,or private bp ) Unusual Soldier Stash : http://www.tf2items.com/item/1065994053 (You can see the historial there "Evil_existence" is a alt from Dalton,dazhmania seems a legit user,but i don't know.) I do not have anything more to proof....hope this is helpful.
All private again,i DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ELSE WITH TRADING,you do things legally and you get reported and scammed. You can't trust anyone this days. Now i am banned from TF2TP for the unusual's trade when i DIDN'T KNOW THAT THOSE HATS WERE SCAMMED,I WAS ASKING THE RIGHT PRICE FOR THEM,god man.. And this dalton is clean,unbelievable,just nice.
Mah.ninja, can you please post a screenshot of your inventory history showing the trade? Thanks! Also, Dalton has already been marked. Mah.ninja, you may also want to clear the 13 scammers off of your friends list as trading with scammers can get you in trouble- always check SteamRep before you trade and never trade with anyone marked as a scammer.
Sure,no problem. How do i see my trade history ? (never knowed how). I know i have a lot of scammesr friends,but i do not do anything with them more than playing.
http://imageshack.us/f/12/finalproofforhelen.jpg/ There you have,hope this finally fix everything...because im not hijacked, and i did not scam..just buyed to the wrong person. Thanks you Helen
pd:Those keys to scatman, he owed me those for buying EA,and just returned them 5 days ago lol. (Didn't know that he was banned from several tf2 trade pages,damn have to talk with him)