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Accepted 76561198041251177 (Jamie)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by |KR| .:CamTheMan:., Apr 13, 2013.

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  1. |KR| .:CamTheMan:.

    |KR| .:CamTheMan:. New User

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    Victim:
    |steamID: I <3 Flies!!! [PPM]
    |steamID32: STEAM_0:0:61616508
    |steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083498744
    |customURL:
    |steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198083498744

    Scammer:
    |steamID: Jamie
    |steamID32: STEAM_0:1:40492724
    |steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198041251177
    |customURL:
    |steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198041251177

    Screenshots:
    Jamie's Current Profile:
    http://puu.sh/2zitg

    A chat with him after the incident:
    http://puu.sh/2zhHb

    Trade history:
    http://i.imgur.com/sSfQd3x.jpg?1

    Jamie's outpost trade:
    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9853589

    Description:
    This report is written on behalf of I <3 Flies.

    Flies contacted Jamie regarding a brokering company, and allegedly gave him a vivid plasma festiviser. Jamie removed Flies after the hat was traded over to him. After the incident, a friend of mine and I made a post on his outpost trade to get his attention, and we proceeded to made an attempt to confront him about this issue, and Jamie claims he won it in some sort of contest, however the chat logs show him not remembering the specifics an hour or two after the incident happened, and refusing to go into any more detail for unknown reasons. After this, on his outpost trade it seems like he was trying to cover up what happened in the chat.

    Chat logs:
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    Never tell your password to anyone.
    16:51 - Garry: Hey
    16:51 - Jamie: hEY
    16:51 - Jamie: lad
    16:51 - Jamie: you wanted the vrh
    16:51 - Jamie: :3
    16:51 - Jamie: for 2buds
    16:51 - Jamie: :3
    16:51 - Garry: yes can i ask you something first tho ?
    16:51 - Jamie: Go ahed
    16:52 - Jamie: Im waiting
    16:54 - Jamie: Are you still typing?
    16:55 - Garry: So... i know where you got the Vivid Festivizer from.. you wanted to broker it for i love flies and you removed him.. you can give it back now or have a good chance for getting a scammer tag.. as your sr report is being filed as we speak. you can give me the hat or an admin and we give the hat back and we can forget about this or you will get banned from tf2outpost and all trade servers. your choice buddy
    16:55 - Jamie: What the f✿✿✿?
    16:55 - Jamie: I won it fair and square
    16:55 - Jamie is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
    16:55 - Jamie: you were here for the b/o
    16:55 - Garry: tell me more
    16:56 - Garry: in a spycrab ?
    16:56 - Jamie: I dont need to tell you s✿✿✿ this is betweene me and him i won fair and square in a heavy boxing duel
    16:56 - Garry: wait
    16:56 - Garry: wait
    16:56 - Jamie: You want to buy it or not
    16:56 - Garry: explain it
    16:56 - Garry: or you will gte a report on sr, he was here on the server talking about how you scammed him
    16:56 - Garry: Tell me whats up and i can halp you
    16:57 - Jamie: Noty i think i would like to pass i won fair and square leave me alone
    16:57 - Jamie: Or wait
    16:57 - Garry: your choice
    16:57 - Jamie: it was not heavy boxing i think
    16:57 - Jamie: it was engi duelling
    16:57 - Jamie: i dont remember
    16:57 - Jamie: :3
    16:57 - Jamie: Well
    16:57 - Garry: did you chat via steam ?
    16:58 - Jamie: Dude im not intressted in talking to you about this any questions steamrep has about him falsly accusing me i will deal with i won fair and square now bye bye
    16:58 - Garry: why not ? if you won it show me proof
    16:58 - Jamie: I dont have any proof its not like i recorded the match jesus
    16:59 - Garry: you were friends via steam ?
    16:59 - Jamie: I choose not to answer any further questions because im in no way obligated to do so i won fair and square and if you dont stop messaging me i will be forced to delete you and in turn block you
    17:00 - Garry: you cant remember how you wont it ?
    17:00 - Jamie: I can
    17:00 - Jamie: I will catch ya later buddy
    17:01 - Jamie is now Offline.
    
  2. VenGanZa

    VenGanZa User

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    Cam please get Flies to post here to verify the authenticity of this since this is third party reporting. When I told garry to post on SR, I presumed he would know the victim must report.
  3. I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM]

    I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM] New User

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    I got scammed by jamie. He is running a false broker compony on the front page of his account. He wanted to broker my industrial festavalizer and we agreed that he would sell it for 27 keys and keep 1 as payment. As soon as I gave it to him he started complaining that tf2outpost.com was not working so he could not post the trade. He then started saying he won it in a duel fair and square wich never took place. Then he ran, changed his username and got offline.
  4. VenGanZa

    VenGanZa User

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    Note to staff, I spoke to Cam and Garry, they have initiated the thread because Flies was not comfortable/did not understand how to do so.
  5. max and sarah

    max and sarah New User

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    I was with james he did win i think it was a heavy dueling thingy well he won fair and squr i was on the server for about 20 min then i left i think i saw him win :p
  6. James the human

    James the human New User

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    Ohh hi max yeah thx for commenting on the thread i won fair and square and i do recall that you were ontop off the fence in the boxing ring also if anyone from the PPM server sees this that is a admin flies teleported me into the heavy boxing arena using a engi teleporter so i hope he gets banned from that server:3
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  7. James the human

    James the human New User

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    I want to quote alot off wrongs here first off all ive known flies for about 1month not and we have played alot and ive helped him alot i won fair and square and what was i covering up you added me to buy the vrh for 2buds not to discuss this bullshit i responded to your comment on outpost with i guess you changed your mind what am i covering up this is so much bullshit in one.
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  8. |KR| .:CamTheMan:.

    |KR| .:CamTheMan:. New User

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    Firstly, I don't think that sort of attitude and language is neccessary here.
    Secondly, his isn't the forum to defend yourself. You may do that in appealing if you are tagged. This thread is a report thread, so an SR admin can put the report through.
    So, please co-operate with SR's admins and don't waste your time posting here unless you're instructed to do so by an SR admin.
  9. |KR| .:CamTheMan:.

    |KR| .:CamTheMan:. New User

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    I've taken the time to gather more evidence given what was said above. I believe what I found is important, so here it is.

    I'd like to start by saying that I'm an unusual trade server admin on the server it occured on, which is PyroProtectMe's (PPM) Unusual Trade server, as outlined by Jamie himself above. Here's a screenshot in case anything happens to the post.
    http://puu.sh/2zNwc
    Therefore, I've gone through our database to investigate the situation.

    Firstly, I'd like to present the action logs of Jamie. This is a list of every one of his actions on every one of our servers. Our gameme databases are used here as the source.

    Link: http://pyroprotectme.gameme.com/player_histories/events/31223
    Screenshot (Just in case): http://puu.sh/2zLvf
    (Note: Jamie has changed profile picture + nickname since the report, so these are different from his current setup. The accounts jamesswe and Jamie are the same accounts. Here's his full player information according to our databases: http://pyroprotectme.gameme.com/playerinfo/31223)

    Here, it appears that Jamie and Flies did engage in some sort of duel with Flies, as Jamie claims. However, the outcome is clearly outlined here that Flies was the winner. Regardless of the duel's relevance to the case, a contradiction is seen here with what Jamie has said. We can also see that the teleporter Jamie took was not Flies' teleporter. It was another player's teleporter. Therefore, this particular accusation is false.

    Link: http://pyroprotectme.gameme.com/search?q=76561198073160236&si=players&rc=tf&x=0&y=0
    Screenshot: http://puu.sh/2zNnd

    This link/screenshot is me doing a database search on the player vouching for James in this thread. As shown by our archives, this player has never been on any of our servers, and therefore could not have been with Jamie as he claims here:
    http://puu.sh/2zPkl
    He also gets the information about the duel here incorrect, as the kills in the action logs of Jamie show it was an engineer duel of some kind.
  10. James the human

    James the human New User

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    How is it ovblious that he won. I won fair and square. And first off all we actually fought various times for fun and practiced and i said i dont remember if it was engineer or heavy boxing so get off that case. I do gamble alot i cant remember every fight.
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    Eh, if I was a betting man, I'd say that "James the human" and "Max and Sarah" are the same people: Similar levels of poor english, similar uses of short sentences followed by godly runons, similar uses of vulgarities, similar uses of elementary grade school-level vocab.
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  12. max and sarah

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    That , what i meant to say really he lost and raged
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  13. VenGanZa

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    It would be helpful if all of you stop bickering.

    Unless you are posting evidence, or comments which have a direct bearing on the matter at hand (free from personal rubbish and opinion), you are not doing anyone any favors.

    Let SR Staff do their job.
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  14. max and sarah

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    Ok i'm sorry as well, i just wanted to tell you what, i saw with my own eyes
  15. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    So you have the demo of what happened? Please email it to me at helen @ tf2outpost.com
    If you do not have the demo, which I will need to see time and date stamps from the server through the console, then this cannot be used as evidence. We go by evidence and evidence alone.

    You think you saw him win? Oh and then the guy lost and really raged. How can you have seen that if you left and didn't even know if he won or not. Your stories are conflicting and you don't have a shred of evidence to back it up here.

    So the evidence we have here is:
    1. A hat was traded
    2. Server logs show that the hat was NOT traded as the alleged scammer claims so he was lying about winning it in some sort of bet.

    Do we have any evidence of the brokering agreement at all? Or anywhere that this accused was advertising brokering services?

    Also, I have now set this thread to moderation. Posts that do not provide additional evidence will not be posted.
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  16. I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM]

    I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM] New User

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    link: http://puu.sh/2zitg

    This link shows his account before he changed it when he tried to run after taking my unusual. As you can see it shows he is a "broker" and shows his "brokering company" status.
  17. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    Ah, well, that settles it then. All the solid evidence we have, combined with my own research, clearly indicates a scam. It is sad that he didn't just give back the hat- he could've avoided a scammer tag. Thank you for the report. :)
  18. I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM]

    I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM] New User

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    great, is there anyway possible to get my item back
  19. VenGanZa

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    Not from Valve.

    Be nice if the person involved returned it, if he ever wants to appeal that would something to do post haste.
  20. I &lt;3 Flies!!! [PPM]

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