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Invalid 76561198044502360 (BrilliantBill [No sound])

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by DarthPA, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. DarthPA

    DarthPA New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:0:19732329
    Scammer:

    steamID: BrilliantBill [No sound]
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:42118316
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044502360
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/BrilliantBill
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198044502360

    Victim:

    steamID: [Spec-Ops] Marine
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:47456159
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055178047
    customURL:
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198055178047

    BrilliantBill was a lower level admin on a set of achievement servers. I am currently a top level admin with said servers. The other day Marine approached me and told me Bill had scammed him out of an unusual. Marine told me Bill had said his Bubbles Fedora was worth more than Marine's Blizzardy Merryweather. He then made Marine add 2 more hats (a green painted uncraftable Ushanka and an Apparition's Aspect) to the trade to make it "even." After the trade Marine claimed that Bill then rubbed the scam in his face by telling him that the Merryweather was worth 2.5 buds and the Fedora was only worth 1.5. I went to tf2items.com and found all of the items Marine said he had given in the trade to Bill had been traded within days of the initial trade.

    I have Steam chat logs of Bill admitting to the scam. There was also another admin of higher rank than Bill present in the chat at the time that will confirm that this took place. I'll put his info below along with the logs.

    steamID: EvilJackCarver - WORK
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:41489101
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043243931
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/eviljackcarver
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198043243931

    Friday, 27 July, 2012
    23:19 - EvilJackCarver(♫): Merry Christmas, Darth.
    23:20 - DarthPA: Yes i noticed he was on
    23:20 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: Hello
    23:20 - EvilJackCarver(♫): Should I take my leave?
    23:20 - DarthPA: Thats up to you
    23:20 - EvilJackCarver(♫): I'll stay here for logging purposes then
    23:20 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: so could I get a brief explaination?
    23:20 - DarthPA: Yes you could
    23:21 - DarthPA: I was informed by Marine that you intentionally scammed him out of his unusual
    23:21 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: I traded my unusual for his, fair and square
    23:21 - DarthPA: He said that you told him your bubbles fedora was worth more than his blizzardy merrywether
    23:21 - DarthPA: he also said that you insisted on him adding a gren ushanka
    23:21 - DarthPA: and an apparations aspect
    23:22 - DarthPA: because yours was worth more
    23:22 - DarthPA: seeing as you had all 3 of his items
    23:22 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: so I am going to get permanently banned because he didn't do his research?
    23:22 - DarthPA: and traded them within the week
    23:22 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: in that case, Ill gladly accept it
    23:22 - DarthPA: He also claimed that instead of running off quietly
    23:22 - DarthPA: You then told him exactly what his item was worth
    23:23 - DarthPA: after you had taken it from him
    23:23 - DarthPA: and informed him that his item was worth more than yours
    23:23 - DarthPA: after the trade occured
    23:23 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: yes, I do recall saying that
    23:23 - DarthPA: so you have 2 options
    23:23 - DarthPA: 1
    23:23 - DarthPA: you lose admin and you give marine the difference in the unusuals which amounts to a buds
    23:23 - DarthPA: or 2
    23:24 - DarthPA: you lose admin and are permanently banned
    23:24 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: are you going to ban 11530 as well for getting that TC off of someone who unboxed it?
    23:24 - DarthPA: 115 made an offer to the guy and the guy accepted
    23:24 - DarthPA: you intentionally misled marine
    23:24 - DarthPA: theres a difference
    23:25 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: 11530 new the great difference as well.
    23:25 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: payign a few keyes for 14 buds?
    23:25 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: keys*
    23:25 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: I don't think there's much of a difference
    23:25 - DarthPA: there is
    23:25 - DarthPA: he didnt say "your item is worth this and mine is worth this"
    23:26 - DarthPA: he didnt say "my stuff is more expensive then yours"
    23:26 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: If you do check the logs, I only specified that weather effects are very low
    23:26 - DarthPA: frankly y
    23:26 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: and are not wanted as others
    23:26 - DarthPA: your* attitude here leads me to believe otherwise
    23:27 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: anyways, I am not intentionally targetting 11530. If this would be a reason to get banned, I might as well leave the server
    23:27 - DarthPA: like i said
    23:27 - DarthPA: the other admins dont intentinally mislead people
    23:27 - DarthPA: you did so
    23:27 - DarthPA: and since you havnt denied it
    23:28 - DarthPA: ill assume you really dont care what i do
    23:28 - DarthPA: at all
    23:28 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: of course I do care, I am just admitting what I actually did
    23:28 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: or would you prefer me lying?
    23:28 - DarthPA: it would have been more fun if you had since i had proof of the trade
    23:29 - DarthPA: but thats neither here nor there
    23:29 - DarthPA: so
    23:29 - DarthPA: whats it going to be
    23:29 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: Ill accept the ban
    23:29 - DarthPA: fine
    23:29 - DarthPA: we're done here then
    23:29 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: 1 last question
    23:30 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: will my account on the forums remain?
    23:30 - DarthPA: it will not longer have admin access
    23:30 - DarthPA: but yes it will remain
    23:30 - BrilliantBill [No sound]: alright, thanks.

    Bill never denies the claims I said Marine made against him in this chat. He also refused to give the difference between the 2 unusuals and instead decided to take a permanent ban from our servers along with the removal of his admin.

    He also insisted on insulting me on his steam page for banning him after he admitted to this. There's a screencap below.
    http://i.imgur.com/euzjk.png
  2. RAYCHARLESWITHNIGHTVISION

    RAYCHARLESWITHNIGHTVISION New User

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    This is silly. He traded a low tier hat for another low tier hat. You have a chatlog copy paste of him telling you to pound salt because what you were saying was ridiculous. Both hats are low tier and the difference of a bud is purely subjection. I find it rather disturbing you defend a friend who you both agreed sharked a team captain.


    I don't blame him, I would have asked for the ban too. You guys obviously don't know what you're talking about.
  3. DarthPA

    DarthPA New User

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    First, my friend did not "shark" a team captain. The owner of the team captain insisted on a certain value for his item. When asked by the owner, my friend even added more to the deal. He gave the owner exactly what he insisted on getting.

    Second, Misrepresentation of an item's value and lowballing are two different things. No one who lowballs intentionally claims that their item has more value then the one they are trying to get.
  4. RAYCHARLESWITHNIGHTVISION

    RAYCHARLESWITHNIGHTVISION New User

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    You obviously have misinterpreted what steamrep is for, or just simply dont care and posted anyway as there are multiple posts discussing the tagging of sharks. You're trying to describe a sharking incident while having your friends back for stealing ~14 or so buds worth of hat for a few keys. The trade mentioned has a maximum possible difference of .5 buds. Are you REALLY coming here to say youve always traded 100% laterally in the game and never made out greater in the end of a trade? What part of the USSR are you from?
  5. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    This is not a scam, so I am marking this report as invalid and archiving it. Regardless, thank you for the report.