This person is a possible scammer alt. Also, he threatens to VAC ban anyone that gives him a bad deal. This report has 2 parts, the VAC ban threat and the scammer alt possibility. VAC I first heard about him from my friend LOLing at him and his comments about a trade. (This has NO evidence and should not be counted at evidence) SO here is the first VAC ban threat Surfer_056: hi can i see 22:40:53 BandNerd: hello 22:40:54 BandNerd: my stuff for sale? 22:40:59 BandNerd: including or not iuncluding the crates?22:41:16 Surfer_056: not 22:41:31 BandNerd: ok 22:41:34 BandNerd: good one time someone asked me that22:41:42 BandNerd: moved about 20 crates then they said no crates lol 22:41:50 You added Strange Part: Posthumous Kills 22:41:52 You added Strange Part: Revenge Kills 22:41:52 You added Strange Part: Revenge Kills 22:41:53 You added The Sticky Jumper 22:41:57 You added Apparition's Aspect 22:41:58 BandNerd: interested in any? 22:42:15 Surfer_056: well 22:42:21 Surfer_056 added The Conjurer's Cowl 22:42:28 Surfer_056 added The Apparatchik's Apparel 22:42:33 Surfer_056 removed The Apparatchik's Apparel22:42:39 Surfer_056 removed The Conjurer's Cowl 22:42:41 Surfer_056 added The Apparatchik's Apparel 22:42:41 Surfer_056 added The Conjurer's Cowl 22:42:51 Surfer_056: well 22:43:21 Surfer_056: for all 22:43:22 BandNerd: If my price on conj is right it is about worth if I take out the apparations 22:43:45 BandNerd: yep 22:44:07 Surfer_056 removed The Apparatchik's Apparel22:44:08 You removed Apparition's Aspect 22:44:10 BandNerd: I can do this for them both 22:44:18 Surfer_056: i want oyro hat 22:44:23 Surfer_056: ... 22:44:25 BandNerd: your trade would be a huge rip off 22:44:27 You added Apparition's Aspect 22:44:29 BandNerd: first of all 22:44:32 BandNerd: its not a hat 22:44:35 Surfer_056: i dont need the 3red part 22:44:42 BandNerd: its a misc so its not the classic .33 for a dirty ne 22:44:47 You removed Strange Part: Revenge Kills 22:44:49 You removed Strange Part: Revenge Kills 22:44:50 You removed Strange Part: Posthumous Kills 22:44:50 Surfer_056 removed The Conjurer's Cowl 22:45:34 BandNerd: whats the offer now? 22:45:37 Surfer_056 added Grimm Hatte 22:45:51 Surfer_056: i got 22:46:01 Surfer_056 added The Captain's Cocktails 22:46:02 Surfer_056 added The Conjurer's Cowl 22:46:03 Surfer_056 added The Conquistador 22:46:04 Surfer_056 added The Apparatchik's Apparel 22:46:06 Surfer_056 added Trophy Belt 22:46:10 Surfer_056: for sale 22:46:18 BandNerd: whats the offer? 22:46:54 Surfer_056: around 5 to 6 keys for all of this 22:47:12 BandNerd: I am not buying this with metal 22:47:25 BandNerd: or keys 22:47:26 BandNerd: I am trading items 22:47:31 Surfer_056: well 22:47:37 BandNerd: metal can be used to even out trades22:47:38 Surfer_056: hats ' 22:47:40 BandNerd: make an offer 22:47:44 Surfer_056: well' 22:48:10 Surfer_056: 6 keys worth 22:48:15 BandNerd: so? 22:48:19 BandNerd: get to the point I am not buying all of your stuff 22:48:30 Surfer_056: what do you like 22:48:54 BandNerd: idk, make an offer 22:49:03 Surfer_056: show me all ur hats 22:49:14 You added Hottie's Hoodie 22:49:26 You added Vintage Pyrovision Goggles 22:49:27 BandNerd: those 2 arent really for sale though22:49:34 Surfer_056: i want hoodie 22:49:42 BandNerd: I want it also 22:49:49 Surfer_056: ... 22:49:58 BandNerd: You are going to have to overpay, and not in items if you want it 22:50:01 BandNerd: I never said it was for sale 22:50:08 BandNerd: you just said to put out all of my hats22:50:16 Surfer_056 removed Trophy Belt 22:50:30 Surfer_056 removed The Apparatchik's Apparel22:50:31 Surfer_056 removed The Conquistador 22:50:33 Surfer_056 removed The Captain's Cocktails 22:50:35 You removed Hottie's Hoodie 22:50:37 You removed Vintage Pyrovision Goggles 22:50:38 Surfer_056 removed The Conjurer's Cowl 22:50:43 Surfer_056 is ready 22:50:44 BandNerd: this is a terrible ripoff 22:50:53 BandNerd: my misc is worth about 3 ref 22:51:00 Surfer_056: its dirty 22:51:01 You removed Apparition's Aspect 22:51:02 Surfer_056: ITS DIRTY 22:51:07 BandNerd: this would make it more even 22:51:08 You added Reclaimed Metal 22:51:13 Surfer_056: MORE LIKE 2 REC 22:51:16 Surfer_056: THIS IS 2.33 22:51:24 Surfer_056: ref 22:51:26 BandNerd: no it isnt its a craft hat 22:51:39 BandNerd: stop trying to scam me 22:51:43 Surfer_056: YES IT ISBandNerd: its a craft hat 22:52:00 Surfer_056: I CRAFTED IT 22:52:01 BandNerd: so? 22:52:05 BandNerd: its a craft hat 22:52:08 Surfer_056: you can craft it down 22:52:21 BandNerd: all because it is crafted of 2 hats doesnt make it not a craft hat 22:52:23 BandNerd: its a craft hat 22:52:28 BandNerd: 1.33-1.66 ref 22:52:32 BandNerd: craft hat 22:52:34 Surfer_056: its clean 22:52:36 BandNerd: yes 22:52:43 BandNerd: you want the def of a craft hat? 22:52:49 BandNerd: hats valueing about 1.33-1.66 ref ussually used for crafting toghether 22:53:05 Surfer_056: this is 2.33 22:53:18 BandNerd: your hat values around 1.33-1.66 ref22:53:18 Surfer_056 added The Captain's Cocktails 22:53:27 Surfer_056: captis is 2.44 22:53:35 BandNerd: whats the new offer? 22:53:36 Surfer_056 removed The Captain's Cocktails 22:53:37 You removed Reclaimed Metal 22:53:38 BandNerd: 2.44 max 22:53:48 BandNerd: what was the point of that? 22:53:59 BandNerd: braging about your items? 22:54:06 Surfer_056: no 22:54:15 Surfer_056: for hotrods 22:54:19 Surfer_056: this is not even close 22:54:41 BandNerd: Hotties hoodie is worth about 6 ref22:54:42 Surfer_056: im haveing you vac banned 22:54:48 BandNerd: and I said you would have to overpay22:54:49 Surfer_056: SCAMER 22:54:53 Now the second one, a chat with me. (I have screenshot proof) Never tell your password to anyone. Venny_: Uh hey Venny_: You said my friend band was going to get VAC banend? Venny_: His name is BandNerd Venny_: Hello????? Surfer_056: yes Venny_: Uh what exactly for? Surfer_056: he scamed me Venny_: Did you exchange items? Venny_: According to him, you were saying your prices were very high Surfer_056: not realy Venny_: So can you tell me aboiut the trade Surfer_056: u got a mic Venny_: No Venny_: Sorry Surfer_056: oh Venny_: I like text chat Venny_: Too Venny_: So can you summarize the conversation? Venny_: It would help me a lot if you would, I dont want my friend to be VAC banned Venny_: But he will if you have evidence Venny_: Hello? Surfer_056: yes Venny_: Can you summarize your chat with BandNerd? Venny_: uh Surfer_056: hey Surfer_056: im looking to sell some of my hats Venny_: ok, whats next? Venny_: what? Venny_: I just want to know why you are getting band banned Surfer_056: ok Surfer_056: near the end Surfer_056: i had a clean grim hatte Surfer_056: he said Surfer_056: thats s✿✿✿ and said its 1 scrap then he said sticky jumper Venny_: What I recall is he said it was a craft hat Surfer_056: ? Surfer_056: wait Surfer_056: onw seond Surfer_056: one Venny_: He offered a sticky jumper and 1 rec right? Surfer_056: want to trade Venny_: uhh Venny_: How much do you want for.. Surfer_056: i go by spred sheet Venny_: Really huh? Surfer_056: ya Surfer_056: most of time Venny_: Uh Venny_: how much for grimme hat Venny_: Uhhh Venny_: well, how much for all of them Surfer_056: around 5-6 keys Venny_: What? Venny_: The Venny_: Hell? Surfer_056: well Venny_: Ok ill put spreadsheet prices down now Surfer_056: show me hats for this Surfer_056: i want hats for this or paint Venny_: ummm Venny_: My hats are too expensive Venny_: sorry Surfer_056: hmmm Surfer_056: metal Venny_: I dont have much metal Surfer_056: keys Venny_: I need all of this Venny_: I already have an unusual trophy blt Venny_: belt* Venny_: Sorry, I dont really need your hats. Im just here to talk about how ur gonna get my friend VAC banned Surfer_056: he was being abusive and scming Venny_: How did he do that? Venny_: How was he abusive Venny_: How was he scamming? Surfer_056: you are boaring me Surfer_056: i wont vac ban him Surfer_056: there Venny_: But Venny_: How was he bueing abusive Venny_: and scamming Surfer_056: calm ur nips Venny_: i just want to know how Venny_: So I can make him better Surfer_056: ... Surfer_056: he cant be made better Venny_: Just tell me, please Venny_: I am one of his best friends and I trust him Surfer_056: in real life Venny_: Yeah Surfer_056: im 19 and your 12 ? Venny_: What? Venny_: I'm not 12, idiot. Surfer_056: ok 11 Venny_: -_- Surfer_056: what are you then Surfer_056: so i can fell better Venny_: I'm 18 bro. Surfer_056: well Surfer_056: thats cool Venny_: Please, I just wanna know what happened Surfer_056: nope Venny_: -_- Venny_: Why Surfer_056: maby for a key ... Venny_: Uh Venny_: Im giving you $2.5 for words then? Surfer_056: derp lol Surfer_056: or a re Surfer_056: f Venny_: I'm not giving you 1 ref/ Surfer_056: your dobbles Surfer_056: dupes Venny_: ? Venny_: I don't dupe items. Venny_: What hats did u have Surfer_056: im done with you Venny_: But I might want your hats Surfer_056: such as Surfer_056: and for Venny_: Yeah Venny_: How much do you want for your hats and what hats Venny_: I just skimmed through them Surfer_056: you like Surfer_056: wich ones Venny_: Which ones were you selling and said that were 5-6 keys togetherÉ Surfer_056: ya Venny_: Uhh Venny_: trade me and show me Venny_: the prices Venny_: Ok so how much each individually Surfer_056: well Surfer_056: what do you like Venny_: Ehh Venny_: I might need all of them to just give away to friendss Venny_: just list the prices Venny_: Individually Surfer_056: well Surfer_056: cowal 1.66 same with conq, cans 2.44, grimm dont know , lumber jack 1-2 keys Venny_: Ok Venny_: So cowal and conq 1.66 each... Surfer_056: yes Venny_: and can is 2.44 Surfer_056: yes Venny_: im adding them together Venny_: 4.11 so far Venny_: I can say grimm is 1.66 Surfer_056: ywsa Surfer_056: yes Venny_: so thats 5.77 so around 2 keys and 2 rec Surfer_056: ok Venny_: Lumber 1.5 keys (1-2 Keys, Im meating half way) Surfer_056: k Venny_: So thats around 3.5 keys and 2 rec Surfer_056: um Surfer_056: k Surfer_056: well Surfer_056: thats the pricing Venny_: Uhh Venny_: I can offer Venny_: Rocket jumper for the grimm Surfer_056: i got that Venny_: Sticky Venny_: Is that good Venny_: Sorry I dont really know prices Surfer_056: um no Venny_: Im not sure am I scamming or not Surfer_056: ..... Venny_: I can offer a strange sticky launcher for the consiquador and the cowl Surfer_056: i want keys or metal Surfer_056: maby items Venny_: ok Venny_: So my strange wep for... Trophy and GrimmÉ Surfer_056: i want metal Venny_: You said maybe items.. Surfer_056: maby Surfer_056: in this case no Venny_: Maybe* Venny_: I can give you a collectors level hat Venny_: worth double the price Venny_: for any of them Surfer_056: what is it Surfer_056: thats not much kinds 2 rec Venny_: Yes but level 100 doubles it Surfer_056: not at all Venny_: Well I say it is Surfer_056: level makes no difference Venny_: Uh yes if its level Venny_: 0 or 100 Surfer_056: i done want it Venny_: Fine Venny_: Ill add a rec Venny_: There, 1.66 Surfer_056: I DONT WANT IT Venny_: Why Venny_: Its worth 1.33 and its collectors Surfer_056: ITS NOT FOR ME Venny_: It is to other ppl Venny_: and stop talking in caps Surfer_056: ... Surfer_056: well Surfer_056: add keys Venny_: What Venny_: I just want 1 hat Surfer_056: 3 keys and 2 rec Surfer_056: wich 1 Venny_: any one of them for this and 1 rec Venny_: Uh Surfer_056: nope Surfer_056: i dont want it Venny_: WAIT Venny_: YOUR TROPHY IS DITYU Venny_: AND U PRICE IT AS 1.66 Venny_: YOUR A SCAMMER Venny_: OMG Surfer_056: derp Surfer_056: its .66 Surfer_056: not 1.66 lol Surfer_056: 2 rec Surfer_056: Venny_: hmmm Venny_: I can offer Venny_: This for all Surfer_056: OMG SCAMER Surfer_056: VAC BAN Venny_: Why Surfer_056: SCAMMER Surfer_056: SCAMMER Surfer_056: LIER Surfer_056: CHETTER Surfer_056: SCMAER Surfer_056: VAC BAN FOR YOU Venny_: Thanks Venny_: youre threatening to VAC ban me Venny_: Just what I need for your ban Surfer_056: NOT THRTEIN Surfer_056: DOING Venny_: Good luck with your ban kid Venny_: Youre not close to being 19 Surfer_056: im 19 Surfer_056: ... Venny_: You cant spell or use proper grammar Surfer_056: fagit Venny_: LOl Venny_: thats now how you spell f✿✿✿✿✿ Venny_: Idiot Surfer_056: i use a mac with slipery keys Venny_: Explain slipery Surfer_056: calm the f✿✿✿ down you no life loser Surfer_056: NEW Venny_: Dont worry Surfer_056: and its 3 am in the morining Surfer_056: ... Venny_: You will just be banned from almost every trade server Venny_: Thats it Venny_: I will contact outpost mods Surfer_056: ? Venny_: And get you banned on darkly Venny_: tf2outpost.com Surfer_056: ? Surfer_056: ? Surfer_056: im sorry i dont know these Venny_: Good Venny_: You wont be using outpost then Venny_: Ever Surfer_056: whats that Venny_: Basically a big trade website Venny_: Where you can search for any wep Venny_: and find someone selling it Surfer056: cool ? Surfer056: well Surfer056: sorry ? Surfer056: o ya i have an acc there Surfer056: i got some stuf there Venny_: And you wont be using it Venny_: Ive got 24 PNG screenshots Venny_: With your name in it Surfer056: png is Surfer056: hello ? Venny_: 25 screenshots now Surfer056: heres my question Venny_: showing your profile information Surfer056: how are you bettering your self here Surfer056: what should i be scared of you ? cuz im realy not Venny_: Lol ok then Venny_: It doesnt matter anymore Venny_: Once I contact outpost admins Venny_: You wont have a very nice trading career Surfer056: do you know what tf2 realy is Venny_: A hat simulator Venny_: Duh Surfer056: yup Surfer056: i have people that will "supply" me Venny_: Like your dad Venny_: Surfer056: i mean players that will help me Surfer056: i have people that will help me Surfer056: if i cant trade' Surfer056: i have ALL of them Venny_: Lol cool Surfer056: Venny_: you have like 5 friends Surfer056: not those Surfer056: you dero Surfer056: ugh people that video games soooo seriously Surfer056: how about go out side and see the big yellow thing in the sky i think you know what the sun is if not that well i dont expect you to Venny_: Its night idiot Venny_: lol Surfer056: you are a real tard Venny_: You are a real Valve employee Venny_: Wait no you arent Venny_: you cant spell or use proper grammar Venny_: You have less than 100 hours of TF2 Venny_: and you threaten to ban anyone that gives u a bad deal Surfer056: i dont play much Surfer056: not realu Surfer056: realy Surfer056: lol Venny_: Lol Venny_: I have 25 screenshots to prove my poiny Venny_: point* Surfer056 is now Offline. *NOTE EVERY TRUTH I TELL IS A LIE TO HIM, WELL MOST OF THEM" I will put a link to every screenshot I have as a rar file on MALWARE-SUSPECTED-mediafire-. http://www.MALWARE-SUSPECTED-mediafire-.com/?t7dbmfue2tooh3u Scammer After further investigation, this person appears to be a scammer alt. (Screenshot proof provided) 1. He has a friend with the exact same name 2. The friend with the exact same name has previous trade bans