Victim: steamID: Horo steamID32: STEAM_0:1:32657307 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198025580343 customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/holoble steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198025580343 Scammer: steamID: TinyFish steamID32: STEAM_0:0:54455787 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198069177302 customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tinyfish steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198069177302 Screenshots: Uploaded in order of events below. Description: I met TinyFish after responding to a thread he made on outpost. The thread was an Earbuds for real world money. I friended him on Steam and started to do the transaction after settling to trade him $41 for both an Earbuds and a Strange Sapper. I went first, and after the money was sent he went offline without notice, coming back a few times and changing his name. I abjured the money I sent from him, and he came back. He complained that he was had no access the money, and I interrogated him. He admitted that he tried to scam me. He didn't get the money and I refused to trade for the items after having caught him. He even tried to trade after admitting he was scamming. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4671735 this is the original trade on outpost. Code: Never tell your password to anyone. Sunday, September 23, 2012 2:09 PM - TinyFish: can i help you 2:09 PM - Horo: hello, I'd like to by your buds 2:09 PM - TinyFish: in key or paypal 2:09 PM - Horo: paypal 2:09 PM - TinyFish: but you will need to go first. 2:09 PM - Horo: that is fine 2:10 PM - TinyFish: ok 2:10 PM - TinyFish: shall we begin? 2:10 PM - Horo: yes, to where should I send the money to? 2:10 PM - TinyFish: [email protected] 2:10 PM - TinyFish: how much will you pay again 2:10 PM - TinyFish: im recording 2:10 PM - TinyFish: just incase 2:11 PM - Horo: $27.5 dollars as on the trade on outpost 2:11 PM - TinyFish: ok 2:11 PM - TinyFish: please select gift when sending the money 2:11 PM - TinyFish: so that you dont need to pay fee 2:11 PM - Horo: sure 2:12 PM - Horo: oh hang on, may I buy two buds instead? 2:12 PM - TinyFish: only have 1 atm 2:12 PM - TinyFish: =/ 2:13 PM - TinyFish: i have strange sapper 2:13 PM - TinyFish: if you want it too 2:13 PM - Horo: I'd like that, but how much would I have to pay for it? 2:13 PM - TinyFish: um 2:13 PM - TinyFish: idk 2:13 PM - TinyFish: 14 dollar i guess? 2:13 PM - TinyFish: 13~14 2:13 PM - Horo: how about 13.5? 2:14 PM - TinyFish: ok 2:14 PM - Horo: so the total 2:14 PM - Horo: $41 USD 2:14 PM - Horo: correct? 2:14 PM - TinyFish: yes 2:14 PM - Horo: okay, I'll send the money now 2:14 PM - TinyFish: thank you 2:15 PM - Horo: the money is sent TinyFish is now Offline. TinyFish is currently offline, message cannot be sent. TinyFish is now Online. TinyFish is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join. 2:17 PM - TinyFish: sorry 2:17 PM - TinyFish: internet just went down 2:17 PM - Horo: mmh 2:17 PM - Horo: have you recieved the money? 2:17 PM - TinyFish: wait 2:25 PM - Horo: ready? 2:29 PM - Horo: please let me know soon 2:29 PM - Horo: I've got things to do Your state is set to Offline. TinyFish is now Offline. Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained. Connected again and rejoined chat. TinyFish has changed their name to aefawgag. aefawgag is currently offline, message cannot be sent. aefawgag is now Online. You have accepted the trade request from aefawgag. aefawgag has changed their name to TinyFish. 2:40 PM - TinyFish: i cant recieve my money 2:40 PM - Horo: can't be too rash, now can we 2:41 PM - TinyFish: =/ 2:41 PM - TinyFish: paypal held the moeny for some reason 2:41 PM - Horo: yes, that is true 2:41 PM - TinyFish: did you get yoru money bakc? 2:41 PM - Horo: yes 2:41 PM - TinyFish: :o 2:41 PM - Horo: I can send it again 2:41 PM - TinyFish: this time lets do the sapper first 2:42 PM - TinyFish: 41 is too big amount 2:42 PM - Horo: this time, I ask for you to go first 2:42 PM - TinyFish: ok 2:42 PM - TinyFish: wait 2:43 PM - TinyFish: can you do 14 dollar for the sapper 2:43 PM - Horo: hmm 2:43 PM - Horo: hang on, I wanted the buds tho 2:43 PM - TinyFish: :o 2:43 PM - TinyFish: i just noticed im selling bud for a too low price 2:44 PM - Horo: that's not my fault though.... 2:44 PM - TinyFish: yeah.. 2:44 PM - TinyFish: every1 is selling them for above 33.. 2:44 PM - Horo: i think so 2:44 PM - TinyFish: anyway will you pay 14 dollar for the sapper 2:45 PM - Horo: I'd rather do the same deal 2:45 PM - Horo: 41 for both 2:45 PM - TinyFish: =/ 2:45 PM - TinyFish: but 41 is too low 2:45 PM - Horo: like i said, you agreed to it, it wasn't my fault 2:45 PM - TinyFish: how about 45 2:45 PM - Horo: hmm 2:47 PM - Horo: well 2:47 PM - TinyFish: how about lets just finish the sapper first 2:47 PM - Horo: nah, it's too messy to do one at a time 2:47 PM - Horo: I agree to the 45 2:47 PM - Horo: if you are 2:47 PM - Horo: $45 for both the buds and the strange sapper 2:48 PM - TinyFish: i dont wanna give you 2 items at the same time 2:48 PM - Horo: that's fine, you can give me the buds first 2:48 PM - TinyFish: uh 2:48 PM - TinyFish: no.. 2:48 PM - Horo: hmm, I don't see why not 2:49 PM - TinyFish: if i lose my earbu 2:49 PM - TinyFish: i will have nothing 2:49 PM - Horo: you won't lose them, I will pay for them 2:49 PM - TinyFish: why not do 1 to 1 deal 2:49 PM - Horo: what does that mean? 2:50 PM - TinyFish: i give you the sapper 2:50 PM - TinyFish: you give me 13.5 2:50 PM - TinyFish: then i give you earbud 2:50 PM - TinyFish: then i give you 31.5 2:50 PM - TinyFish: you give me * 31.5 2:51 PM - Horo: I prefer the other way, you give me buds, I give you 31.5 2:51 PM - TinyFish: why 2:51 PM - Horo: then the sapper 2:51 PM - TinyFish: why 2:51 PM - Horo: because, you left multiple times 2:51 PM - Horo: very unprofessional 2:51 PM - TinyFish: thats not a reason 2:51 PM - Horo: indeed it is 2:51 PM - TinyFish: you get the sapper first i will give you bud anyway 2:52 PM - Horo: what does that mean? 2:52 PM - TinyFish: ok i will give you the bud first 2:53 PM - TinyFish: just let me start my record program agin 2:53 PM - Horo: which program are you using, btw? 2:53 PM - TinyFish: fraos 2:53 PM - Horo: okay 2:53 PM - Horo: fraps, you mean 2:53 PM - TinyFish: can i really trust you you only have like 6 rep 2:53 PM - Horo: on outpost? 2:53 PM - TinyFish: yes 2:54 PM - Horo: I have more rep on my account 2:54 PM - Horo: I never did wrong in terms of trading 2:54 PM - Horo: i've been trading for a year 2:54 PM - TinyFish: ok lets start trading 2:54 PM - Horo: hang on a sec 2:54 PM - Horo: how long have you been trading for, may i ask? 2:55 PM - TinyFish: nto sure 2:55 PM - TinyFish: was a F2P 2:55 PM - TinyFish: xD 2:55 PM - Horo: oh lol 2:55 PM - Horo: how have you acquired the buds anyways? 2:55 PM - Horo: you must have traded something large for it 2:55 PM - TinyFish: i used to have lots of Bills hat 2:55 PM - TinyFish: then got scammed 2:55 PM - TinyFish: yesterday 2:56 PM - TinyFish: lost 3 of them 2:56 PM - TinyFish: =/ 2:56 PM - Horo: who scammed you? 2:56 PM - TinyFish: an impersonator 2:56 PM - TinyFish: diego 2:56 PM - TinyFish: on the trusted seller list 2:56 PM - Horo: I see 2:56 PM - Horo: do you have the impersonator's steam ID? 2:56 PM - TinyFish: yes 2:57 PM - Horo: can I see it? 2:57 PM - TinyFish: http://steamcommunity.com/id/holoble/ 2:57 PM - TinyFish: that guy 2:57 PM - Horo: heheh 2:57 PM - Horo: that's me 2:58 PM - TinyFish: his id is like 2:58 PM - TinyFish: id/diego100 2:58 PM - TinyFish: or 1000 2:58 PM - TinyFish: yeah 2:58 PM - TinyFish: 100 2:58 PM - TinyFish: http://steamcommunity.com/id/diego100 2:58 PM - TinyFish: this f✿✿✿✿✿ 2:58 PM - Horo: he scammed you yesterday? 2:58 PM - TinyFish: mhm 2:59 PM - Horo: what did he promise to give you? 2:59 PM - TinyFish: 39 dollar 2:59 PM - Horo: for three bills hats? 2:59 PM - TinyFish: 2 white 1 ts 2:59 PM - TinyFish: yes 2:59 PM - TinyFish: ok lets start trading 2:59 PM - Horo: hang on 2:59 PM - TinyFish: ok 3:00 PM - Horo: just another question, where did you get bills hats? 3:00 PM - Horo: they are hard to get 3:00 PM - TinyFish: keys.. 3:00 PM - TinyFish: bought 4 keys 3:00 PM - TinyFish: just keep trading 3:00 PM - TinyFish: buy low sell high 3:00 PM - Horo: mmhm 3:00 PM - Horo: okay, now tell me, why did you change your name earlier? 3:01 PM - TinyFish: cuz i wanna scam people like he does 3:01 PM - TinyFish: but 3:01 PM - TinyFish: fail 3:01 PM - TinyFish: .. 3:01 PM - Horo: interesting 3:01 PM - Horo: you had gotten scammed, and wished to get items the same way he did 3:01 PM - TinyFish: yeah 3:01 PM - TinyFish: i think im the only oen on this world 3:01 PM - TinyFish: who is stupid enough 3:01 PM - TinyFish: to get scammed 3:01 PM - TinyFish: =/ 3:02 PM - Horo: hmm 3:02 PM - Horo: well, you realize that you have failed 3:02 PM - TinyFish: mhm 3:03 PM - Horo: were you actually recording this entire time? 3:03 PM - TinyFish: um no 3:03 PM - TinyFish: will start recording when the trade begins 3:04 PM - Horo: hang on 3:04 PM - Horo: I have been recording too 3:04 PM - Horo: in a way 3:04 PM - TinyFish: mhm 3:04 PM - Horo: I have clear evidence of what's transpired 3:04 PM - TinyFish: mhm 3:05 PM - Horo: I am able to turn in this evidence and have you marked as a scammer 3:05 PM - TinyFish: mhm 3:05 PM - Horo: anyone who trades with a scammer can also be considered himself a scammer 3:05 PM - TinyFish: mhm 3:05 PM - Horo: I will not trade with you 3:06 PM - TinyFish: ok 3:06 PM - Horo: I have recieved my money back 3:06 PM - Horo: and I will turn in this evidence 3:06 PM - TinyFish: ok. TinyFish is now Offline.
Just to make absolutely sure, please post screenshots of your paypal and trade history to 1) verify money was sent initially, and 2) you never received the items agreed upon. Hidden Content: **Hidden Content: Content of this hidden block can only be seen by members of (usergroups: Administrative, Moderating).**
Here's the image of my trade history, no trade took place on the day of the scam, and the image of the transaction.
