Victim: | steamname: Crucifox | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:19574200 | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999414128 | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Crucifox | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197999414128 Scammer: | steamname: Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:59067115 | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198078399958 | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Zantec | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198078399958 View attachment 29704 View attachment 29705 View attachment 29706 This one really f✿✿✿✿✿✿ hurts me. A lockjaw is honestly, whatever, I've lost way more to scammers, but the fact that this is the third or fourth time I've gotten scammed in a row has really impacted my ability to trust any trader, at all, for any reason. This guy talked with me for 3 days about trading and I checked his steamrep multiple times, checked how many scammers he had as friends, and guess what? The guy has only 1, and even has a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ verified green tagged middleman and moderator on his friends list. What the f✿✿✿? http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024890686 <---- This is the guy I'm talking about. This guy being friends with this scammer is kind of what pushed me over the edge to trust him. Not that I'm placing blame. It's my fault I trusted him and got ripped off, but let me tell you there were only 2 f✿✿✿✿✿✿ flags that the guy wasn't on the level, and the first was his inventory. It's too small to make sense, I think. The second was him asking me to send him an invoice so he could "check my paypal" and make sure it was verified, which I know first hand is a load of bullshit. But after 3 days, the guy disappearing and reappearing after holding pleasant, normal, non-rushed conversations with me? He really convinced me he was a completely normal person and not a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ a✿✿✿✿✿✿. My point is, for a scammer, he is extremely patient, and his account has 20 bought games on it. He has 130 or so friends. Plenty of time spent playing. It's not a new account. Like, I even f✿✿✿✿✿✿ googled him. enough of my crying. here's the transcript. Code: Crucifox: Yo Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ? Crucifox: I want to sell dota 2 items. Crucifox: Want to discuss? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: before that Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: do you have a rep page? Crucifox: No, and since you're obviously a known person I might as well tell you up front I'm marked as a scammer on steamrep. Crucifox: Since you'll look and find out anyway. Crucifox: I'm innocent, but I'm not talking to you to try and prove or disprove that. Crucifox: I just want to sell stuff. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , i just saw Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: was wondering why too Crucifox: I've got 2 fezzles, an osky, a trapjaw, and some signatures. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i just need osky and trap Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no need fezzle Crucifox: May I ask why the special interest in those 2? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: cheap? Crucifox: Okay. Crucifox: What do you pay for those 2? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: cash? Crucifox: Yeah, paypal. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yes Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: USD Crucifox: Yep. Crucifox: Greenbacks. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and i need to see your offer Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ^^ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: if bad price then sorry >< Crucifox: $6,271.33 USD for the trapjaw Crucifox: Why does the seller have to "offer" to the buyer? What kind of f✿✿✿✿✿✿ sense does that make? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: haha Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: cause i want to compare the market price Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i tell you Crucifox: Any idea where this "offer" "no u offer" bullshit came from? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: if you see my chat Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i get ✿✿✿✿✿✿s offer Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: osky in steam 2 market is 80$ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and they ask me to pay them 120$ Crucifox: Ha. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that's why man Crucifox: I just want a normal price. Crucifox: If market is normal, then I'll take that. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2lounge.com/trade?t=34826615 Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: like this Crucifox: I don't want to scam you or get some ridiculously inflated price. Crucifox: I just want a simple, easy trade. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: so quote me best price for osky and trap Crucifox: You're really set on making me name a price first aren't you? Crucifox: Hold on while I go look at the community market. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: okay Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: best price usually got discount one >< Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: hah Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: haha* Crucifox: Osky's are starting at 80. Crucifox: 75 or 70 should be fine. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 70 Crucifox: If I would have said 60 you'd've said 55 Crucifox: Don't play games with me. Crucifox: Trapjaws start at "$59.80" apparently Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 55 Crucifox: So 54-49 should be fine. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 49 :D Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: you put the price range Crucifox: I'm laughing, or I'd be mad. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: chill man Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So quote me the best price and lets discuss how we deal Crucifox: Alright. Crucifox: Well, you know I'm marked as a scammer, so it's hard for me to trust that people won't look at me and think, "I can rip this guy off and no one will listen to him, he's a scammer, this is my chance for free money!" Crucifox: I can and WILL link you to steamrep threads I have submitted post being marked where I got other people who thought that marked as scammers. Crucifox: So don't f✿✿✿✿✿✿ pull my chain. I will make another thread for you if you want to play games. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: what are you mumbling about ==? Crucifox: I'm saying, I know how to report scammers. Crucifox: So don't f✿✿✿ around please. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: dude i also know man == Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: either go to steamrep forum Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: or Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2traders.com/forum/node/report-a-scammer.21/ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: if you dont know the template of posting Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: let me show you my examples Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2traders.com/forum/thread/76561198086336190.86165/ Crucifox: Nice. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i'm more updated ^^ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lols Crucifox: I tried but I can't find my old threads. Crucifox: I've submitted like 4 so far. Crucifox: Real sick of it. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: archived maybe Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: try asking wuvs or jerry Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://dota2traders.com/forum/node/archive.58/ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: try here Crucifox: It's alright. Crucifox: I trust you a bit more now. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait i need to report a f✿✿✿✿✿ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: == Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/10070927086 Crucifox: Really? Crucifox: You got scammed out of a hearthstone beta key? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: kinda Crucifox: Isn't that like 600 bucks? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: in 2 days tme more none Crucifox: Huh. Crucifox: Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait im posting to kill her actually. Crucifox: Alright, so Crucifox: How do we proceed Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait a moment Crucifox: I was asking one of my friends that buys from me, funnybunny if he wanted my couriers. Crucifox: I'll wait I guess. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/10070927086?page=1#8 Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: see how the proof burns Crucifox: Hilarious, good job. Crucifox: f✿✿✿ that b✿✿✿✿. Crucifox: If you pay me, I'll throw you my pair of Manta blades. Crucifox: To express my sympathy. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i manage to buy that for 9$ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: she was like , wanted my qop + 10k Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i said for starters i want to trust u Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and she ran with the starters believing iterm Crucifox: So, how about....53 for trapjaw, 73 for osky Crucifox: I don't know what fezzle sells for. Crucifox: Market says it's worth like 150 Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah man, its possible. but give me few minutes Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im submitting a ticket Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: to kill that b✿✿✿✿ Crucifox: Didn't realize you were still handling that. My bad. Let me know when you're free. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: haha okies Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im sending ticket to blizzard Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: the big boss Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: bacl Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: back* Crucifox: Welcome back. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: sorry it took awhile Crucifox: It's okay. Crucifox: Do you actually want to trade now? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yeah why not Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im also interested on others item as well Crucifox: What other items? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/570/2/1062028191/?l=english&o_url=Crucifox Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/570/2/1062028196/?l=english&o_url=Crucifox Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://steamcommunity.com/economy/item/570/2/1062028204/?l=english&o_url=Crucifox Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: you got the rubick prestidigator set? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and aui sign Crucifox: I do have aui_2000's signature Crucifox: I don't know about prestidigitator Crucifox: I only have the snake face and cloak set for rubick Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ouch Crucifox: I just traded for the portal stuff. =( Crucifox: Oh well, we'll see. Crucifox: I can agree to sell the portal stuff if all else goes well I guess. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: can no prob Crucifox: So are you ready? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yea man Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] did not respond to the trade request. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] has accepted your request to trade. Crucifox: Are you not curious what my paypal is? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i haven't even saw the trade windows yet Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: im waiting to see how you start Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: and im still replying blizzard Crucifox: I keep waiting for you to ask me what my paypal is, lol. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: wait bro Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i feel like postponing this trade for 10 minutes is that possible Crucifox: Yeah, sure. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: what time is it at your place? Crucifox: 5:44 am Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: shouldn't you be in bed? Crucifox: Yeah, like a while ago I guess. Crucifox: If I want to keep normal hours. Crucifox: Not like anything important is happening in my life right now. Crucifox: I'm not concerned. Crucifox: What time is it where you are? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 6.46 PM Crucifox: K it's been like a half hour Crucifox: Lol Crucifox: Did you fall asleep? Crucifox: What the hell man. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no man Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i was in a problem Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: >< Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: now only solved Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lol Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: bro? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Offline. Your state is set to Offline. Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained. Connected again and rejoined chat. Your state is set to Offline. Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained. Connected again and rejoined chat. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Online. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: bro? Crucifox: Sup Crucifox: You're back? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: s✿✿✿ happened so i had to prolong for a day Crucifox: It's okay. Crucifox: Are you ready to try trading again? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: now is 2PM here Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: @ 5PM Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i didn't add any funds to my Paypal yet Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: so yeah Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: After 5pm Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Either you or me Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: PM each others Crucifox: Do you know how much you're adding to paypal? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I'm adding 410$ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i got other funds for other seller also Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: >< Crucifox: Okay lol Crucifox: I'd like to sell you some signatures, would you be interested in any of those? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: depends on the price mate Crucifox: I suppose it does. We should add up what the 4 couriers are gonna cost. Crucifox: 125 for the osky and trapjaw is fair, correct? 55 for one and 70 for the other? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeap Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that's the price Crucifox: And the 2 fezzles, I assume they are 140 apiece, so 280 makes basically 405/410, like you said you were adding. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: eh , i thought got free aui in that package of 125$ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: XD Crucifox: So gj on that. Crucifox: Oh, aui. Crucifox: Yeah, sure. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no man i dont need feezle Crucifox: He's yours. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: my funds are limited Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: >< Crucifox: I thought you were buying my fezzles! Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no no Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: just osky and trapjaw Crucifox: Well damn. Crucifox: I need more money. I wanted to sell my fezzles. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: If things go smooth Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: today Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Next month when my salary clears, i can buy more Crucifox: Mm. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Just few days Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Now its 25 Crucifox: I guess you should look at my signatures and see what ones you're interested in. Crucifox: So maybe we can work out a price for those. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Within 30 Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Hmm , Akke have? Crucifox: Yes Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Best price for Akke , i mean if you have alliance Crucifox: I only have bulldog and akke. Crucifox: From alliance, anyway Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: quote me best price for bulldog and akke Crucifox: I honest to god don't know their prices Crucifox: I'll have to go look them up Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: k Crucifox: akke is apparently 15 keys Crucifox: So 25 bucks for him Crucifox: Bulldog goes for around 40 I guess Crucifox: So 68 bucks for him Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: no bulldog then Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: akke maybe Crucifox: Ok Crucifox: What price do you want to pay for bulldog? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: well i can only pay like once 150$ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that also ill have balance of 260 Crucifox: Okay, so I'll give you an osky, a trapjaw, aui_2000, and akke for 150? Crucifox: Is that the amount you can spend? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: yeah man Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: just 150$ Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: i need to spend on an ef courier somemore. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Online. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: k Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: hey Crucifox: Sup Crucifox: What's going on Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Nothing Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Why? Crucifox: Uh Crucifox: Because you messaged me Crucifox: I thought I was responding to you Crucifox: Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: k Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: hey Crucifox: Sup Crucifox: What's going on Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: the item for 150$? Crucifox: Yeah? Is someone else on your computer or something? Crucifox: You said you couldn't do that till 3 hours later I think Crucifox: Is it time? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , i thought my funds will be late transffered Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: But it was on time Crucifox: Cool. Crucifox: Does that mean you want to trade now, or later? Crucifox: you've made me wait plenty so I'm over it, lol. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Few minutes Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: It wll be worth Crucifox: K Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Online. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Done Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Just purchased a nice SB Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: :D Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: ? Crucifox: You there? Crucifox: Lol Crucifox: What's a SB? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , its only you. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Shadow Blade Kunkka Crucifox: You went offline for a minute. Crucifox: Nice. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So, let's trade Crucifox: Okay. Crucifox: I'll start with just the trapjaw, which was 55 bucks, right? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So the fee's you cover? Crucifox: I guess? What's the fee? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: 55$ , ard 3-4 Crucifox: Sure. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Can you send me an invoice to my PP? Crucifox: Uh Crucifox: If I remember how Crucifox: Sure Crucifox: But why? Crucifox: That's kind of a strange and uncommon request. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: lazy man Crucifox: Hahahah Crucifox: Alright, what's your paypal Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: that's how i deal just now. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I learnt that today Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: [email protected] Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I want to check your PP verified or not >< Crucifox: Oh Crucifox: Totally legit reason. I respect that. Crucifox: Now, help me remember how to send a f✿✿✿✿✿✿ invoice. Crucifox: nm, got it Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: LOL , watching a nice Youtube show Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOeNGvvcgv4 Crucifox: invoice sent Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Sent [email protected] Sent fromMichelle Chitwood [email protected] Invoice number0004 Date payment is dueSep 25, 2013 Amount$55.00 USD Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yours? Crucifox: Yup. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yup, it's legitimate Crucifox: Yep. I'm verified, attached to a bank account, etc. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: So Trapjaw will be the first Crucifox: Yep. Crucifox: Do you want an invoice with every trade? Crucifox: Or was that just to make sure I was verified or whatever? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah , for future ref Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Actually next round no need Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I can send it Crucifox: Alright, we might as well get this over with. Crucifox: I'm gonna go first on the trapjaw. You have accepted the trade request from Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Online. Crucifox: What the f✿✿✿ man Crucifox: Do you just go offline right after trades to scare people on purpose or what? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: No la Crucifox: la? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Crucifox is now Offline. Your state is set to Offline. Lost connection to Steam, will rejoin chat automatically when connection regained. Connected again and rejoined chat. Crucifox is now Online. Crucifox: Oh, it was steam I guess. Crucifox: Scary timing anyway. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yea , i gotta admit Crucifox: Anyway, sending? Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: Yeah, bad line Zantec [Dota2Traders.com]: I'm processing it Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is now Offline. Zantec [Dota2Traders.com] is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in. Crucifox: f✿✿✿ you, by the way. Crucifox: Making the report, already have 3 of the screenshots.