Victim: Me steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198055633325 Kid: steamID: Avery Annihilator of the Wicked steamID32: STEAM_0:1:35543094 steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198031351917 customURL: steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198031351917 He scammed me my Pin Bill's for his s✿✿✿ of Pink VooDoo that is worth 7 keys and Mine 9. So please I want my hat back. he told me that he sold the hat for a strange machina that is worth 16 keys and I ask to all my friends that if i can get good items with the voodoo and they said "NO". Soo please I want my hat back. He is a kid. IN TOTAL I GAVE HIM 10 KEYS!!!!!!! because he said me to add 1 more key. http://i49.tinypic.com/14scad.png
Err mate. Where exactly is the scam here? This looks like you made a bad deal rather then he actually switch something out. Did he replace the item before trading or anything?
He said me that the voodoo is worth 16 keys or a machina and then i checked the price in the spreadsheet and it say 6-7 keys. So is an scam. He also said me that there are only few of tradable and uncraft or craft voodoos.
You need a screenshot of the chat mate, but usually scams involve people losing their items for other reasons. The mods shall be the judge of that. Good luck
yeah screenshot of the chat is needed. however it is on the fine line between scam and bad deal.. you should always check price of items before trading.
Hello. I am the person he is accusing of a 'scam'. Here are the facts: I sold an Uncraftable Voodoo Juju for a Strange, gifted Machina plus two keys FROM ME today. I have seen the prices going up for Voodoo Jujus, and seen Uncraftable Jujus sell for Strange Huntsmans/Black Bills before. Spreadsheet is not the god of the prices in TF2. Demand and Supply determine prices. With Halloween coming around the corner, Voodoos have gone up in price in the market. Bills are just staying constant. He wanted to trade for my Pink Uncraft Juju for his Pink Bills and one key. I accepted and we traded. Then, he wanted to trade back, but of course, I didn't want to, as I had made a nice few key profit. Then he threatened to blackmail me and report me for 'extreme scamming' if I didn't undo the trade. I didn't undo the trade. I do not have a screenshot, but this was our conversation that I copy and pasted (saved it as a word document because I wanted to show a friend, but exited out before I could screenshot): Also he is quite vulgar and I find him offensive, and has been a bother with this whole thing. Bryan: Dude Can u give me my hat back I want pay u in keys Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I was planning on selling it for 10 keys, so sure. You have accepted the trade request from Bryan. Bryan: Don't forget the key Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I thought you meant the bill :/ Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: for 10 keys Bryan: I know Bryan: but I need that key Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Wat. Bryan: I'll bookmark and in 2 days I'll buy it Ok Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Okay, buy it back then for 10 keys. Bryan is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join. Bryan: Yes I kwnow You have accepted the trade request from Bryan. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Dude, not trading back. Bryan: ??? Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: If you want to buy your Bills back, I want 10 keys SOLID. Bryan: I'll give u in keys Bryan: I know Bryan: You can't understand me? Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I'm not giving you something that there is a possible chance I won't get back. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: So save up ten keys and buy your pink bill back later. Bryan: Dude I bookmark ur trade Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: that's nice. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Tell me when you have 10 keys. Bryan: Give me the bills back with the key then I'll pay u in keys Bryan: I'll buy some keys Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Nope! Bryan: .... Bryan: So come on I overpay Bryan: Or I'll report u for scamming Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: This isn't scamming. Bryan: Yes it's Bryan: Ur s✿✿✿ is 6-7 keys and mine 9 Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: That's nice. Bryan: So don't make problems and give it back because then I'll give u the keys Bryan: Come ON Bryan: COME ON STOP IGNORE Bryan: OR WILL GET BANNED, I'L REPORT U IN STEAM REP Bryan: I'M TAKING PICTURES OF ALL THIS Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: You traded your item that was worth a key or two higher than my item. That's simply called making a profit. Not scamming. And if I don't want to give your item back because I like making profit? Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Tough luck, I hope you learn not to do that in the future. Bryan: THEN I SEE THE PRICE WELL AND U LIE Bryan: COME GIVE BACK Bryan: YOU LIED ME TO BUY THAT, THAT IS LESS THE PRICE Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: If you've paid attention to market prices, then you know I wasn't lying. Bryan: You lied me about the machina and i lbelieved u Bryan: Now I'LL REPORT U KID Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: What? Bryan: SO STOP SPAM Bryan: IN STEAM REP Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I really did trade my items for a strange machina. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Why don't you believe that I did? Bryan: I DONT CARE I JUST WANT MY HAT BACK UR U WILL HAVE SERIUS PROBLEMS ABOUT THAT Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: > serius Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: hehe c: Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: You're funny. Bryan: YES CONTINUE LAG Bryan: LAUGH* Bryan: http://forums.steamrep.com/ Bryan: In there Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I think I shall continue laughing, because they're not going to ban me over you trading your hat that's worth slightly less than mine. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: *more Bryan: Dude you can get banned for that stupid and fake jokes so stop talk s✿✿✿s Bryan: Be mature Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Fake jokes? Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Bryan: MACHINA IS 16 KEYS AND UR VOODOO 6 Bryan: SO I'LL REPORT U KID Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: No, it's not. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I don't think you understand prices and the market. Bryan: I WILL IGNORE U RIGHT NOW Bryan: JUST BECAUSE I'M MAKING THE REPORT Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: The market runs on demand and supply. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: There are few Voodoos, so price is high. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: The hype for machinas has died down. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: So people only sell for about 13 keys, or much less, like 10. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I added two keys. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Jujus are up to 8 keys, or higher. Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Spreadsheet does not equal god. Bryan: SAME I'LL REPORT YOU Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: Market determines prices. Bryan: ENJOY IT Avery Annihilator of the Wicked: I won't get banned, trust me. Bryan: I DON'T CARE I'LL BLOCK U AND DELETE U Bryan: SO GET THE f✿✿✿ OFF ANIMAL Bryan is now Offline.
Also, on Spreadsheet (if you REALLY want to go by that...) it says 6-8 keys, which recently was 3-4 keys a few weeks ago. I see no reason why you're complaining, you made an offer, we traded, you regret your trade. Learn and move on. But I suppose the moderators shall decide my fate. However, when it comes to people just trying to flip a hat for a few keys profit, I don't see how that could ever be construed as 'scamming'.
I mean, everyone is using the 'christmas is coming up' idea for selling BMOCs for a bud, and people are doing it.
