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Pending Appeal: 76561198046621220 - (Vason / BANNED BY SR)

Discussion in 'BANNED BY SR Appeals' started by ☢Vason☢™, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. ☢Vason☢™

    ☢Vason☢™ Banned on SteamRep

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    Appeal for BANNED BY SR

    Steam profile: 76561198046621220 (Vason)

    Appeal Plea: N/A. There are no offenses listed at all.
    Appeal Reason: [Evidence] Missing - Evidence is missing or not enough
    Victim Repayment: No, I committed no fraud or had no direct victims
    Previous Appeals: No, this is my first appeal here

    Alternate Accounts:
    None, I only use this account​

    Appeal description:
    Gentlemen / Ladies:

    My son Connor has been playing TF2 every day for the past year or more. He came to me today confused because he just found out he showed up on SteamRep as banned. When we looked at this together we saw the ban is from 614 days ago. He has no idea why this happened. Connor has been trading with people daily, and all trades need to go to my email account (
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    ) for confirmation. I look at each trade and make sure that everything is kosher. We've been doing it this way for quite a while now.

    I do see an "alternate account" show up, Shodan, which is Connor's brother Ryan. Ryan may have scammed people in the past, but I know that Connor has never willingly done that. Connor has autism and he is very honest. He is heartbroken about this. I can't find any information that explains why he was banned. If he unknowingly wronged someone, we will seek to make that right, even if that happened 2 years ago, but I don't even know how to start figuring that out.

    I have read through the documentation provided on this site and I know that it would help if I had screenshots and evidence and the like but unfortunately I don't have anything like that. I just have an upset boy who has no idea why he is banned. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If my son did something wrong, I will address it.

    Best,
    Kristy (Connor's Mom)
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  2. SilentReaper(SR)

    SilentReaper(SR) Retired Staff

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    Hello @☢Vason☢™,

    This account:
    | steamname: ☢Vason☢™
    | steam3ID: [U:1:86355492]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:0:43177746
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198046621220
    | customURL:
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198046621220

    Was banned for being a alt of:
    | steamname: ☣[SUP]Shodan☣
    | steam3ID: [U:1:86334157]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:43167078
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198046599885
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/RyanSalm
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198046599885

    When you go to that last account's page on SR, you find links to the Reports which he was banned for:
    - http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198046599885-friendlyashelldemo.33986/
    - http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198046599885.25018/

    These 2 where the reports that where processed, however, there are four more open reports on that account:
    http://forums.steamrep.com/search/search/?keywords=76561198046599885&o=date

    Another account that is associated as an alt is this one:
    | steamname: [MRR]Beautiful Sniper™
    | steam3ID: [U:1:139011533]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:69505766
    | steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198099277261
    | customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ryans0224
    | steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198099277261

    Which has another 2 accepted reports on it:
    http://forums.steamrep.com/search/search/?keywords=76561198099277261&o=date

    For information on how appeals are handled etc., read this topic: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-tips.66354/
    And please pay special note to the following point(s):
    #7: What are Alts <<===
    #8: Public profile, public backpack on ALL your accounts.
    #11: Only one appeal.
    #12: Basic appeal procedure.
    #13: Who can appeal <<===
    #16: Time-frame of appeals
    #20: Status of your appeal.

    Based on the story you told, the appeal will be handled for 76561198046621220 (☢Vason☢™) as claiming not being a alt of 76561198046599885 (☣[SUP]Shodan☣) and 76561198099277261 ([MRR]Beautiful Sniper™).
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2015
  3. ☢Vason☢™

    ☢Vason☢™ Banned on SteamRep

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    Thank you so much for responding so promptly. I saw in your FAQs that these things can take months and had set my expectations accordingly so I was pleasantly surprised to get your response today.
    I agree with your assessment that this should be handled as Vason not being an alt of Shodan/Beautiful Sniper. Shodan/BS and Vason are twins, and Shodan/BS is more computer savvy than Vason, so he may have helped set his brother up in a way that Vason appears to be his Alt. I'll talk to the boys to make sure that they keep their online affairs at arm's length from one another in the future.

    I doubly thank you for providing the detailed evidence. I plan to sit down and review it with Shodan/Beautiful sniper so that I can understand what he was doing online to cause this. If he decides that he too wants reinstatement I will expect him to take accountability for any inappropriate behavior.

    Best,
    Kristy
  4. SilentReaper(SR)

    SilentReaper(SR) Retired Staff

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    Hello @☢Vason☢™,

    Putting a basic overview in as above is like less then 5 minutes work, or asking questions etc. Handling the appeal would take a bunch of time, especially with that many reports to dig thru and is only done when someone really has time to spend on such. Also, the accounts where not found in this case by collaborating between them for these offenses afaik, more by connection/shared info/same source etc. We cannot assume accounts found this way are siblings or w/e affiliations people can come up with. And often its very hard/impossible to find out if the account really belongs to a familymember/friend/etc. and often we have to assume default position even in appeals.

    In the past people have posted pictures, facebook links etc etc. in order to "prove" they are siblings etc. Some even made pictures of themselves with someone else with a text on it. But still we cannot assume the other person is the real owner of that alt account. When we started to ban alts we had a lot of hot debates with the community regarding this, but fact is, that over 80 % of those alts found where often used as a mule or selling the items that where profited by the scamming accounts.
  5. Arieez

    Arieez New User

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    Thank you for your response. However I'm not sure where to go from here. Is it possible to get Vason's account back to a good status? This is one of the 20% of cases where the alt is not being used as a mule and the scamming account is not profiting from this.
  6. ☢Vason☢™

    ☢Vason☢™ Banned on SteamRep

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    It's been 4 years, and idk what to go from here, because I wanna appeal it or idk if this being pending still or been erased