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Rejected Appeal: 76561198094384897 - (blahblahfire / BANNED BY SR)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by blahblahfire, Apr 6, 2015.

  1. blahblahfire

    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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    The only account I have access to is 76561198093945627.
    I put the dashes because I am unsure of the time.
    Timeline:
    Dec 5 2013-Dec 7 2013: He added me
    Dec 8 2013 3:21: We do a trade where he tricked me that is stuff is worth as much as mine.
    Dec 21 2013 1:43: I traded him 3 rare items that he said he was going to give it to his little brother for his birthday.
    Dec 22 2013: 6:47:We do a trade but it is not as important.
    Dec 26 2013: Wants one of my items for his Spiral Knights items that he claims would turn into keys in the New Years.
    Dec 28 2013: Trades some of my rare items onto his account
    Dec 31 2013 7:06: Hijacker hacked my account scammed 76561198074314828, Karma
    It said it added a bunch of TF2 keys to my account.
    Dec 31 2013 7:12: Says i traded all those keys to the hijacker.
    Jan 1 2014 2:52: Says i got earbuds for free from 76561198070061617
    Jan 1 2014 3:04: Traded earbuds to 76561198053550921 and also got a few bad items from him.
    Jan 1 2014 8:30: Got a bunch of refined metal and Earbuds from custom URL- Hockeypux53
    Jan 1 2014 8:38: Traded all the refined metals for key to a Scrap.TF bot. Custom URL thingy- tf2scrap25
    Jan 1 2014 9:14: Traded a bunch of keys and earbuds for an unusual to 76561198053550921
    Jan 1 2014 11:18: Traded unusual to 76561198053550921 for a really cheap item.
    Jan 2 2014: I turned on my computer and notices some of my items were gone and i quickly changed my password and nothing else happened after that.
    Jan 3 2014: The hijacker unfriends and blocks me.
    I can provide all the screenshots of the trades in order if you want me to just say it.
    Thanks
  2. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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  3. blahblahfire

    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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    Yes that's my other account I was confused if I was supposed to list all my accounts or the ones marked on steamrep
  4. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    What about this question was ambiguous?
    I even linked you to the policy citing relevant points. You failed to disclose your unmarked alt before I called you on it, after asking twice. You even said
    and now you're admitting that's your account as well? The reason I didn't mark it straight away was to give you a chance to come clean and be honest about it, before calling you out. Lying in an appeal is grounds for rejection, and I've already given you more leeway than we normally provide when you failed to produce evidence you were hijacked. Why should I consider this appeal at all?
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    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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    I would have listed it but I wasn't sure if I was supposed to because it didn't say it was my alt on my steam rep. But now I am. Because you clarified it.
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    Explain this statement then:
    Is that a lie?
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    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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    Yes it is because i was unsure if i was supposed to list the one on steam rep.
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    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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    And i also know that lying is an auto deny so yeah.
  9. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    First part here makes it very clear I'm looking for an honest answer about your alts, and links you to the policy. Second makes it pretty clear I'm looking for more than what's listed on your profile.
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    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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    blahblahfire Banned on SteamRep

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  12. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    After exhaustive research, I was able to find evidence suggesting your account may have been used in a different location, but it doesn't conclusively show who committed the scam or from where. Since your password was not changed during this ordeal and you don't have proof that you were involuntarily hijacked, I can't rule out you were cooperating with this scammer to stage the hijacking as an alibi either. Therefore I will have to stand behind our stance on sharing accounts in that you are responsible for what happens on your account, and refer you to the Steam Subscriber Agreement which states:
    In light of individual circumstances, I might have considered giving you benefit of doubt on the ambiguous matter of who actually did this, based on the evidence I found and individual circumstances, and lowered your tag to a CAUTION. However, since you lied in your appeal I can't trust anything you're saying here. Per our appeal policy, I am now rejecting your appeal for the following reasons:
    1. Usage of account by friends or family is not a valid excuse to overturn a tag
    2. Lack of sufficient evidence you were hijacked
    3. Lying during your appeal
    Despite your appeal being rejected, it's recommended that you avoid future situations that might appear to be fraud with Steam trading. Sometimes people reported to Valve by its users can get their accounts trade banned by Steam Support.