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Archived Appeal Review for 76561198012004283 (SHUIRO)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by Erthskoven, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Erthskoven

    Erthskoven Banned on SteamRep

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    Appeal Review Request
    Reminder: Appeal reviews are not appeals!

    Reason for Appeal Review: Other extenuating circumstance at admins discretion. NOT USUALLY GRANTED!!!
    Past Appeal: https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-76561198012004283-SHUIRO-banned-by-sr.165217/

    Steam profile: 76561198012004283 (SHUIRO)

    Make your case:
    I have spoken to the staff member who declined my previous appeal, and they said that I could submit an appeal review. I will attach screenshots of the 100%, unedited conversation I had with the staff member (You Are The One). I have made large strides since previous appeal to reform, and I thought that reconsideration would be considered (validated by reviewer of previous appeal). View attachment 603303 View attachment 603304

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  2. Erthskoven

    Erthskoven Banned on SteamRep

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    As always, I'm willing to talk via Steam chat or another live-chat option (i.e. Discord).
  3. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    You clearly failed to read up on and understand what limited circumstances you would need to claim for an appeal review and MUST show for requesting a new appeal. ANYONE can request an appeal review, its just a review of the appeal, its NOT a new appeal or permission for a new appeal itself. You provided absolutely nothing that another admin would look at to decide to grant you a new appeal or not.

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  4. Erthskoven

    Erthskoven Banned on SteamRep

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    That's not the impression I got from the "Appeal Tips" thread (https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-tips.66354/). It sounds like being granted permission to make a review is required. Now noting that it is not, this quote actually does say this IS a request for making a second appeal.
    I'm requesting the chance at a second appeal here. If I have done anything else wrong, please let me know, and I'll fix it in a timely manner.
  5. Erthskoven

    Erthskoven Banned on SteamRep

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    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    You botched your appeal review so hard, should not take much time for another admin to review your request. I like how you glossed over/selectively quoted the rest of that FAQ entry instead of actually explaining what one of thoes grounds you are requesting a new appeal based on. HINT: saying you want a new appeal because you "changed" will result in your appeal review being denied outright. Its not designed to override admin judgements.

    You seem confused, ANYONE can submit an appeal review, its part of being transparent and weeding out abuse, they are rarely granted and exceedingly rare that any second appeals change any case outcomes. You may NOT however submit a second appeal unless you are granted special permission (via an appeal review or previously allowed in a prior appeal)
  7. Erthskoven

    Erthskoven Banned on SteamRep

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    For me to make this appeal review, I have to select which ground I'm requesting a new appeal based on. I'm aware that anyone can submit a review, and I'm fully aware of what it's for. I read. This is me asking for that second chance at an appeal, even if it is rarely granted, or exceedingly rarely granted. I feel like I should at least give another shot at getting unbanned and completely exhausting my options, because although the ban was appropriately applied, I gave the items back and I'm not at least neutral terms with both users I have been proven to scam in the past. I'm requesting for another staff member to review my appeal for chance at a different judgement because I was given very little light of day, and given such a short answer for my appeal that it feels like you took a single look and declined. Guess I rolled the dice wrong and got the strict judge and jury.
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    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    You are so dense it hurts reading, this will be my last reply.

    Once again, appeal reviews are NOT meant to overrule an admins judgement on a particular case because you disagree with the outcome or whatever but for transparency and as a check against abuse (attempting a review due to disagreeing with an outcome will result in the review being denied outright and you stated this was your reason multiple times now) You say you understand this but still instead insist you "changed" and fail to articulate any of the limited circumstances you supposedly read/are aware of/listed on our site/faq for valid appeal review reasons.

    gl!
  9. Erthskoven

    Erthskoven Banned on SteamRep

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    That's extremely rude. To be honest, you haven't been nice at all. I've done nothing but show you respect and tried to get your help with getting this situated, and all you did was just blow me off and call me names.
  10. Lava

    Lava Public Relations SteamRep Admin

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    You can't just shop for a different admin who will be more sympathetic to you. That's not what appeal reviews are for, and you should get the same answer regardless of the admin in about 9/10 cases anyway, and the other 1/10 they usually consult other admins to make sure they're making the right call. BUT... Just to give benefit of doubt, I glanced over the reason your appeal was denied - lying, plus at least 2 separate scams spread out across the span of over a year - there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell any of our admins would've given you a different answer, no matter how "nice" or "lenient" they were. It doesn't really matter which admin you get, they're all following a strict set of guidelines, with little room for discretion. You see, if we gave you special treatment then we'd have to give everyone that same special treatment, or else we'd be playing favorites, so in the interest of fairness, we strive to keep our assessments between different admins pretty consistent.

    As YATO stated multiple times, you have provided no documentation of extenuating circumstances whatsoever. Nothing in your pictured conversation indicates special permission to re-appeal, and responsibility to read and understand the terms (instead of cherry-picking stuff you think supports your case) rests on you. By design, appeal reviews are very seldom granted; I think I've granted maybe 2 since I became an admin almost 3 years ago. That "rarely granted" bit doesn't mean you get to roll the dice to see if you're lucky enough to get a second chance at appealing, it means you have to make a solid case under a heavy burden of proof to demonstrate your first appeal was not fairly handled. Throwing out an "I object, give me a different admin" doesn't do that. A change of heart, dissatisfaction with the initial appeal's outcome, or even a desire to overturn the admin's decision for as far as you possibly can (as seems to be the case here, despite that not being a valid reason for an appeal review), do not qualify as extenuating circumstances. Almost everyone we deny feels that way, and there's nothing special about it.

    Since you have provided no justification for a second appeal, we are finished here. Your appeal has been reviewed, and the admin's answer is firmly upheld.