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Archived Appeal Review for 76561198059397600 (dom)

Discussion in 'Archived Appeals' started by sky., Oct 25, 2023.

  1. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    Appeal Review Request
    Reminder: Appeal reviews are not appeals!

    Reason for Appeal Review: Other extenuating circumstance at admins' discretion. NOT USUALLY GRANTED!!!
    Past Appeal: https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-76561198059397600-sky-Δ-banned-by-sr.73890/

    Steam profile: 76561198059397600 (dom)

    Make your case:
    My appeal was denied (in 2017) for not supplying all of my alternate accounts, however at the time of submitting my appeal (in 2014) I was not using any of those accounts, and one of the accounts listed was created in 2017, which means there was no way I could have included it in my original appeal 3 years prior.

    One of the accounts, 76561198043581951, was included in a follow up appeal I made the next year (in 2015), prior to the original one getting reviewed:

    https://forums.steamrep.com/threads/appeal-76561198059397600-tyzz-banned-by-sr.94860/

    Which only leaves me with one other account, however as I said, I wasn't aware of it or using it at the time of my original appeal, as it was still an unused, limited Steam account back in 2014.

    The admin message also stated that I since had several successful scam attempts, which was simply untrue.

    I believe the only reason my appeal was denied was due to a misunderstanding from the large timespan between submitting my appeal, and the appeal getting reviewed by an admin.

    It's also been close to 10 years by this point, I was not even 13 years old when I originally made my appeal, so I would really appreciate another chance at overturning the original denied status. Thank you.

    (the site would not let me submit this form without an attachment, so I had to upload an empty file)​

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  2. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    Hello,

    I will be taking your appeal review, but first, you need to expressly let me know under what limited grounds you are requesting a review under and explain why it falls under that category. Your selected reason does not match with what you put into your review.
    • New evidence not produced in your original appeal.
    • Unfair or mishandled appeal (outside policy). Note: A different appeal admin will review your original appeal and decide if their is enough to grant you a new appeal.
    • SteamRep's policies have changed since the time of your denied appeal, such as trading with scammers.
    • Other extenuating circumstance at admin's discretion.
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  3. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    Hey, sorry, I wasn't entirely sure which category this would fall under. My reason for choosing extenuating circumstances was because I wasn't sure I could personally pin point the broken policies in my case with the alt accounts, but if that's incorrect then I'd choose unfair or mishandled appeal.
  4. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    If you are choosing unfair or mishandled, then as already asked, please explain why.
  5. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    My reasoning is the same as in the OP, at the time of submitting my appeal I was compliant with the alt account policy, however by the time it was reviewed 3 years later I had new alt accounts which I couldn't include in the original appeal. It seems like this is the only reason it was rejected, because to the best of my knowledge I never had any other scam attempts, and definitely not successful ones.
  6. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    I do not understand, you did not disclose any alternate accounts in your original appeal. The account clearly predates the appeal.
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  7. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    That might be true for one of the accounts (76561198043581951) however it was included in a follow-up appeal in 2015 when I went back and started using it, so I wasn't trying to hide anything, I was just unaware that I could also add it to my old appeal.

    The other account (76561198005731759) was not used by me either up until 2016 or 2017 when I found it again, since it was likely even limited from using the Steam community at the time I logged my original appeal.
  8. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    So you admit lying/lying by omission in the appeal then. Also, 1759 was never disclosed in ANY of your 4 appeals and predates your original appeal as well.

    Is their something else I am missing or is that all?
  9. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    Not what I meant at all, I said it might predate the appeal, but I was still not aware of either of them as an "alt" account of mine at the time of creating my appeal. There was no lying, neither would there really be a point in lying from my side.
  10. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    I tried to include as many accounts as I could in my appeal from 2017, but even noted that I could have missed a few just due to how many accounts I had.

    Would like to apologize for that again and hope it can be overlooked, since it already had the banned flag at the time, it wasn't omitted because I was trying to hide it.
  11. You Are The One

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  12. sky.

    sky. Banned on SteamRep

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    I don't believe #1 applies to me at all since I never lied during my appeals, neither did I intentionally leave out details.

    Regarding #7 again I included all of the accounts that I used and had access to at the time of my original appeal (which was just my main account), I only started using those accounts following my original appeal, which went ignored for 3 years.

    I wasn't trying to hide any accounts, which can be seen from me willingly submitting my alternate account in the 2015 appeal before the original received a review.
  13. You Are The One

    You Are The One SteamRep Admin

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    Unfortunately lying by omission is still considered lying for appeals sake, we say as much. In all 4 appeals you submitted, you have omitted/lied about accounts. This is part of our investigation policy to judge a users honesty in appeals. As already pointed out 1951 was never disclosed in the original appeal despite predating the appeal and 1759 was never disclosed in any appeal, also predating your original appeal. Not one appeal did you properly disclose all alts, and you submitted 4, that can only be seen as intentional given the 4 years across you submitting them. (Alt policy linked above makes clear any/all associated account past or present does not matter if you activity use them, also this policy predates all your appeals) This is on top of the original admin finding you did commit the offense you were reported for.


    The original admin took your failed disclosed alts into account when making his final decision properly, this is backed up by your continued failure to properly disclose since, I am concluding the appeal was handled fairly and upholding his decision.