Scam Report Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items Accused profile: 76561197961452664 Victim profile: 76561198112118226 What happened? Description: TLDR at bottom, thanks. I tried selling some keys by starting a thread on bp . tf forum, and then also invited some key buyers who opened buy threads on the same forum via steam. So, some people added me including the accused. His name was pretty obvious to get my priority and we were online at the same time. I checked his backpack tf trust reputation https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197961452664 and steamrep status. We chatted about who should go first, and he was firm about me going first. I was at first so uneasy when I saw he had problems with gambling (as stated on his backpack tf trust page). But, his ok trading reputation, and clear steamrep status made me think that I should not judge his trading by his gambling problem. The size of the trade I was going to do with him was only around 3% of the worth of his tf2 inventory valued by bp tf (around usd 5,400). Deal was 100 tf2 keys for usd 1.63 each, a total of around usd 163. Sent him the goods, and he sent me a screenshot of successful transfer https://gyazo.com/9a9c0c8a1f4ad7031a224f719a2a30f9 . Around 10 minutes or so I still have not received the fund on my paypal. I told him I'd check the next day (which is today), also asked for his paypal email so I can inquire paypal. This morning (8 hours after last transaction inquiry) i checked my paypal, none. I message the accused telling him I was going to report after some time. Well, he only said he was pretty sure the payment was sent. I don't understand why he is so confident but if he did transfer, he could easily give me his paypal email and perhaps a better screenshot from paypal page ? He perhaps does this a lot. Hoping nobody checks if the money is really sent. If victims really do check, then he might excuse himself and really transfer the money. My accusation is he did, scammed me. The time I gave him to reply me with decent answers is more than generous. Provide Evidence: Steam chat View attachment 694103 View attachment 694104 View attachment 694105 Agreed items View attachment 694106 agreed USD View attachment 694107 accused said he successfully paid View attachment 694108 View attachment 694109 The amount of time I gave to at least show me decent reply View attachment 694110 Steam trade history View attachment 694111 View attachment 694112 Item already in his inventory View attachment 694117 Accused profile View attachment 694113 View attachment 694114 Paypal history with date and time View attachment 694118 Friday, January 4, 2019 [Yesterday, 20:11] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Hey [Yesterday, 20:11] emilights.com: sup did i add u or towa [Yesterday, 20:13] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Yup [Yesterday, 20:17] emilights.com: how much are u buying tf2 keys .. i have mix but if u dont like just regulars also ok [Yesterday, 20:18] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Buying at 1.63 usd currently I’m down to buy your entire backpack if it’s a quick sale [Yesterday, 20:19] emilights.com: naah .. i keep my last few pages. and out of shape about other items pricing just too much problem doing that one sec ... turning on com [Yesterday, 20:22] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Fair enough I’d be able to do $256 for your 120 keys and the Aussie medigun if you wanna sell it [Yesterday, 20:24] emilights.com: one sec ... can i see ur bp rep im sensing im going first [Yesterday, 20:25] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: https://backpack.tf/trust/76561197961452664 I’m only banned for trading / gambling with a scammer. But I’ve bought over 2000 keys and currently have a 7k backpack [Yesterday, 20:30] emilights.com: i still am not comfortable tho [Yesterday, 20:31] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: No worries understandable. [Yesterday, 20:31] emilights.com: as i said i'm out of shape from steam and tf2 [Yesterday, 20:31] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: But if you do change your mind, just contact me and I’ll be happy to do the trade with you. Cheers [Yesterday, 20:32] emilights.com: would you consider going first and going as my backpack tf post tho ? [Yesterday, 20:33] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: I would be down to go first, unfortunately I only see 1 rep :| I normally would only go first if someone has higher rep or backpack than me. [Yesterday, 20:33] emilights.com: https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/69336-wts-tf2-keys-mixed-looking-for-usd-50-in-1-go-only/ what you said is well, I was trying since i saw that your steamrep is clear. but as I am out of shape ... don't know how many passive years, I am firm being conservative But, thanks for being a decent fellow. I am sorry if i bothered you in anyways [Yesterday, 20:50] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: No problem Thought you had added me, looking to sell keys [Yesterday, 20:54] emilights.com: I might have ... and I really am selling keys just online to do that actually ... [Yesterday, 20:54] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: I see I could make life easier for you by buying them then hehe [Yesterday, 20:56] emilights.com: well .. we both have trust issues lol need some fund on my paypal to pay for my shopping cart ie: tell you what if you go first and willing to pay the fee ... usd 50 for 31 keys ? [Yesterday, 21:00] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: No sorry [Yesterday, 21:02] emilights.com: come on ... will i scam for merely usd 50 tho ? I am not an idiot ... look at my beloved spelled items ... my treasure ... lol [Yesterday, 21:02] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Same thing here, why would I scam over 100 keys when I already have over 1400? and a 1/1 secret moon KE that I bought for with cash [Yesterday, 21:06] emilights.com: dam ... you do have that many lol ok ... so .. i only need to get around usd 50 are you ok with that ? [Yesterday, 21:07] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: If it’s 50 then not worth the fees sorry >.< thought you were selling 100+ [Yesterday, 21:08] emilights.com: lets say 100 my keys be mix ? that ok with you ? [Yesterday, 21:10] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: What do you mean? [Yesterday, 21:11] emilights.com: i don't have 100 tf2 regular keys [Yesterday, 21:12] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Yeah mixed would dofine [Yesterday, 21:14] emilights.com: damit ... how do i go to your steam profile ?? sorry ... i forgot how to open your steam profile to send trade [Yesterday, 21:15] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=1186936&token=FIsAWXtD Trade offer link you mean [Yesterday, 21:15] emilights.com: oh i got from ... oh you gave. one sec , what nett will i get with 100 keys ? [Yesterday, 21:17] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: $163 usd (And I’d prefer not to take those robo keys if possible) [Yesterday, 21:22] emilights.com: robo oks You sent Felix B > keys [Vacation] a new trade offerView trade offer sent [Yesterday, 21:24] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Alright what’s your name and email? Give me a few mins please, I need to open up the comp [Yesterday, 21:26] emilights.com: my name is franciscus emil caryabudi , email paypal [email protected] [Yesterday, 21:29] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: $168.18 with fees >.> Sent! Cheers [Yesterday, 21:30] emilights.com: thanks .. i need to go pay my shopping cart now ... thanks again [Yesterday, 21:31] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: No worries! Enjoy If you're selling that medi gun too I can buy it [Yesterday, 21:33] emilights.com: i'll think about it ... also have a pro ks kit rocket somewhere [Yesterday, 21:34] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: sounds good lemme know. [Yesterday, 21:41] emilights.com: btw how long does it usually take to receive the money? [Yesterday, 21:42] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Should take a couple of mins normally. It says “sent” https://gyazo.com/9a9c0c8a1f4ad7031a224f719a2a30f9 [Yesterday, 21:44] emilights.com: ok .. it's bed time my time .. i will check tomorrow [Yesterday, 21:45] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Fair enough. Keep me updated. Thanks again [Yesterday, 22:00] emilights.com: Btw, just in case, can you give me your paypal email so i can inquire paypal? Saturday, January 5, 2019 [06:19] emilights.com: the fund is not in. my paypal is a verified business account usually takes longest 15 or so minutes. [07:31] emilights.com: I am going to wait a decent more time for the fund. Afterwards, I am going on steamrep and bp. Thanks. [07:47] Felix B > keys [Vacation]: Hey there. Just saw your message I’m going home soon, I’ll open up and check again. Not sure what happened but I’m pretty certain it said payment sent [19:03] emilights.com: Well, if you are sure, can you provide me you paypal email and a whole screen screenshot of the paypal transaction made so I can ask them ?