Pending Report: 76561197965918968 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561197965918968

Victim profile: 76561198041178809

What happened? Description:

I have added this man regarding his trade on outpost for a knife. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24304674
He was denying to go first, also a middleman (said it takes too much time). At the end, we decided to do half-first and half-after. 80$ being the full amount, I sent him 40$ as "for goods and services" as we agreed on and was waiting for his response.
After confirming that he received the payment ("38$?" - He paid the fees), he had removed me and blocked me.​

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10. května 2015
20:24 - nabe: hey dude
20:24 - Sir 'R': Hiya
20:25 - Sir 'R': I have found you on OP, selling that M9 FT Night
20:25 - nabe is now playing Garry's Mod. Click here to join.
20:25 - Sir 'R': Do you still have it?
20:25 - nabe: yes
20:25 - nabe: selling it for paypal
20:26 - Sir 'R': Yep, that should be it
20:26 - Sir 'R': Are you willing to do a little below 90 for it?
20:26 - nabe: i'd do $85 or so
20:27 - Sir 'R': Paypal is confirmed, I have been on steam for more than 3 years, had backpack of more than 5k$, have 3+ pages of reputation (in case you don't want to go first, we can do a middleman trade)
20:27 - Sir 'R': also 2500+ hours played in all games, mostly TF2
20:27 - nabe: no middlemans
20:27 - Sir 'R': why so?
20:27 - nabe: u go first or no deal
20:27 - nabe: because it's too much of a hassle
20:27 - nabe: and i've been scammed using a middleman before
20:27 - nabe: so
20:27 - Sir 'R': it'd be a direct Steamrep middleman
20:28 - nabe: dont care if they're "StEAmRepSurTiFied" either
20:29 - Sir 'R': Well, is there really no chance you'd go first then?
20:29 - nabe: no
20:29 - Sir 'R': I know I can chargeback you just in case I don't receive the item, but it's too much of a hassle too
20:30 - Sir 'R': I can link you to my reputation
20:30 - Sir 'R': I would not care for me going first, but considering this is the only and the last worth-something item, I don't know.
20:30 - nabe: well, your choice
20:31 - nabe: I guess if it makes you feel better you can send it as a non gift
20:32 - nabe: like you said
20:32 - Sir 'R': that means nothing for me haha
20:32 - Sir 'R': But why not a middleman? safe for both, I'd get one
20:32 - Sir 'R': so you don't have to waste time looking for one.
20:32 - nabe: because it's too much work
20:33 - Sir 'R': you wouldn't have to do anything, just trade the item like you would do anyway, send me your paypal email and that's it
20:34 - nabe is now Online.
20:35 - nabe: still
20:35 - nabe: anyone can impersonate a middleman
20:35 - nabe: and like i said it's too much work
20:37 - nabe: well?
20:37 - Sir 'R': I wouldn't do 85$
20:38 - Sir 'R': make it 80$ and for goods and services and okay.
20:39 - nabe: alright
20:39 - nabe: paypal email is [email protected]
20:41 - nabe is now Online.
20:42 - nabe: well
20:42 - nabe: ?
20:44 - nabe: u there
20:44 - Sir 'R': Yes, I'm thinking
20:45 - Sir 'R': it'd be much easier if you went first
20:45 - Sir 'R': or used a middleman
20:45 - nabe: not getting scammed
20:45 - nabe: if u look at it like this
20:45 - nabe: u can get ur money back
20:45 - nabe: if u steal my knife
20:45 - nabe: i cant get my knife back
20:45 - Sir 'R': I don't get it
20:45 - Sir 'R': haha
20:46 - Sir 'R': I mean, I get you, but not the point why you don't use a middleman or go first since I do have reputation
20:46 - Sir 'R': and it is my reputation
20:46 - nabe: because it's just the way i like to do things
20:46 - nabe: buyer usually goes first anyways
20:47 - Sir 'R': yeah, but there's always some site that is protecting him
20:47 - Sir 'R': for example ebay
20:47 - Sir 'R': police when it comes to store-purchases
20:47 - nabe: i guess
20:47 - nabe: but still
20:47 - nabe: i'd rather you go first
20:48 - Sir 'R': same here haha
20:48 - Sir 'R': how 'bout half first, half later
20:49 - nabe: nah
20:49 - Sir 'R': lel
20:51 - nabe: well?
20:53 - Sir 'R': if you can't do either, I am sorry
20:53 - Sir 'R': middleman, half first - half after, you go first
20:54 - nabe: $50 first, knife, then $30
20:54 - nabe: that way im not losing out that much
20:54 - Sir 'R': you will still be getting everything - full 80
20:54 - Sir 'R': so what's the point of doing more frist
20:54 - Sir 'R': *first
20:55 - nabe: just incase anything happens
20:55 - Sir 'R': anything that can happen is you not giving the knife and me refunding the payment later..
20:55 - Sir 'R': so it's just on you
20:55 - Sir 'R': we can either do half and half, you first or use a middleman
20:56 - Sir 'R': otherwise, nothing
20:56 - nabe: alright, half then half i guess
20:56 - Sir 'R': email?
20:56 - nabe: [email protected]
20:57 - Sir 'R': FT Night M9 bayo for 80$, 40$ now, then knife, then 40$, both sent as "for goods and services"
20:57 - Sir 'R': agreed?
20:57 - nabe: yes
20:58 - nabe: actually 1min
20:58 - nabe: nvm ur good
20:58 - Sir 'R': huh?
20:58 - nabe: nevermind
21:00 - Sir 'R': Sent
21:00 - nabe: k sec
21:01 - nabe: $38?
21:01 - Sir 'R': I sent 40$, as "for goods and services"
21:01 - nabe: alright
21:03 - Sir 'R': got it?
21:03 - nabe is now Offline.
21:03 - nabe is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
21:04 - Sir 'R': As you wish.

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I'd also like to ask you, what is the best way to send a request to refund the payment to paypal? Should I describe it and give them all the proof or would they just laugh at me if I did that and tell me it's my fault - because they do not count Steam in the Buyer protection?

I claimed it as buying "virtual items burned on CD disc" and - since the seller never responded when paypal asked for explanation - I was given the funds back after 20 days of waiting for the seller.

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