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Declined Report: 76561197999757248 (Flaming605)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by gia, Apr 16, 2012.

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  1. gia

    gia New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:9670146
    Victim:
    steamID: gia
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:9670146
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197979606021
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/gia
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197979606021

    Scammer:
    steamID: Flaming605
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:19745760
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999757248
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/LoLDe3vil
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561197999757248

    Screenshots:
    - Pictures of chat: it was a month ago, I have screenshots of my inventory history, my current inventory, and the profiles of two of three of the collateral victims (people that received the fraud games from me). I also have the chat I had with the collateral victims, I am posting the chat with the one that let me know of the payment reversal. I can post the others if you need them.

    http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9520/flaming1.png (chat with first victim to know)
    http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8792/flaming2.png (scammer with my game still on inventory)
    http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9586/flaming3.png (my inventory page 1)
    http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6000/flaming4.png (my inventory page 2, no blurs, rots, sr2 and vt4 still on my inventory)
    http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6949/flaming5.png (complete inventory history until the fraud trade, this one shows two collateral victims and their trades)
    http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4263/flaming6.png
    http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1774/flaming7.png
    http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1632/flaming8.png (final collateral victim)
    http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6271/flaming9.png (final collateral victim again and the fraud trade)
    http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2799/flaming10.png (collateral victim, recently played blur)
    http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2581/flaming11.png (but doent own it anymore)
    http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/153/flaming12.png (collateral victim, recently played blur)
    http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2222/flaming13.png (but doent own it anymore)
    Third collateral victim didn't help much to track where his copy ended.

    - Trade window: no
    - Screen shot of profile page if the offender is impersonating admins, middleman, or trusted traders: not that i know

    Description: Payment Reversal
    The games I traded for disappeared roughly a month after the trade.

    This is the original trade according to my Inventory History:
    Apr4 You traded with Flaming605. 8:04pm
    +Blur, Blur, Blur, Blur, Blur, Blur, Blur, Blur
    –Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® 3

    Blur cost 5$ at the time of the trade being a daily deal. And Call of Duty®: Modern Warfare® 3 best sale price was 40$, so the trade seemed fair to me. Flaming605 was an account from 2008 and while I don't remember what games they had at the time of the trade (I assume an scammer would purchase games for their own account and revert the payment as well anyway), I see he still has some you have to pay for.

    I traded three of these blur copies to other steam users:
    1. xXDeathPenguinXx -> traded for virtua tennis 4 (still on my inventory), he opened the gift
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/DP99/
    76561198042246313

    2. Betox -> he opened the gift as well
    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054979909

    3. Shadow -> traded blur + fortix for shogun 2 rots + saints row 2 (still on my inventory)
    http://steamcommunity.com/id/Shadow47/
    76561198051753043


    I was contacted by the first user about the problem. I did not receive any notification despite I am online almost 24/7 and despite being the biggest loser on this whole deal, I am quite surprised/disappointed by this. I'll check if at least I received an email.

    I convinced him on reporting the scammer. He told me there were two users with the same nickname so I gave him the url to his profile, taken from my Inventory History. He told me he reported him twice. I reported him once on the steam community page, another as a steam support ticket and am doing it again here.

    I contacted Betox's cousin, I will be asking the same of him when he comes online.

    I contacted Shadow, he claimed to have traded two blur copies in the meantime, so he wasn't sure who had ended with the fraud copy. He seemed hesitant to let the final receipt of the game know about the scam. In the end he said he had traded with Dignityy: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024347171, whom didn't care about losing the game, which I find odd personally.

    I have refused to do any "returns" and will continue to do so, I expect Steam personnel themselves will do that to all of our accounts. After reversal I'm hopeful we will be able to trade again.

    If payment reversals is out of the scope of your site it is okay, I was just doing what I thought is routine, most of this is copy paste from my steam support ticket. I'll take the opportunity to show my appreciation for your site as it has saved me from about 3 marked scammers already.
  2. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    Fantastic! I am putting this as under investigation so if you come across any more evidence, feel free to post it here while I continue to look into this. :)
  3. gia

    gia New User

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    I talked to Betox (2nd collateral victim), he gave me this picture as a jpg fullscreen. I cropped out his applications and edited out his steam login name. Then saved in lossless (I hope) png so the edit should be pretty clear.

    I did not receive that screen, I havent logged out yet today, maybe that's it..., nope, no email either, quite the disappointment on how this is set to work.

    http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6852/betox2.png

    Because I wanted a blur for betox, and his wasnt a trade so steam will most likely not do a reversal to him (and it will take a while i bet). I have traded away my chantelise and psychonauts and one of my avp for blur copies. This is after the pictures were taken. I won't be getting any more blurs but if you need new screens of my inventory history it would be no problem.

    Please confirm betox steam profile doesn't own blur at the moment because I will give him blur again to him tomorrow and that "proof" will be gone from the live page.
  4. Mattie!

    Mattie! SteamRep Admin

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    Since the fellow in question didn't get banned by Valve, it's likely he got the games from another account who has been blocked by Valve.
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