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Declined Report: 76561198033170171 (Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Sjru, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Sjru

    Sjru User

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    Steam:
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    Hello there I want to report suspicious activity & attempt to scam,

    Victim:
    steamID: [GMS] Skull Spectre
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:40357614
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198040980956
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SkullSpectre
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198040980956

    Scammer:
    steamID: Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle
    steamID32: STEAM_0:1:36452221
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198033170171
    customURL:
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198033170171

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    Description:

    My friend [GMS] Skull Spectre wanted to sell off his HOUWAR for cash. He found a guy who offered 240$ in cash, however he didn't want to go Official middleman, instead wanting a dude with a wiki cap to be used as middleman
    (steamID: Evaldas256 ♪
    steamID32: STEAM_0:0:16774915
    steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993815558
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Evaldas256
    steamrepURL: http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561197993815558), however that user wasn't repped nor was his friend. As the conversation goes, he still insisted on going middleman with that random user.
    Of course my friend declined and I tried to explain the user that my friend accepted to pays all fees of middleman, however the dude made nonsensic excuses to avoid going official middleman.

    At this point it became obvious of his intentions, thus he left the conv.

    Transcript:
    Nunca reveles tu contraseña a nadie.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Hey buddy!
    [POF] Sjru: o hi
    [POF] Sjru: My friends says
    [POF] Sjru: that you want a houwar for 230 U$Ws
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: A dragon I see? I best be careful around you! :3
    [POF] Sjru: U$S
    [POF] Sjru: Haha yup
    [POF] Sjru: So he says
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Yeah, I was offering $240 actually
    [POF] Sjru: Oh
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: It's the first money trade I've done and ever plan on doing
    [POF] Sjru: He wants you to buy 6 buds and 1 bills with the money, then he trades you the houwar for that
    [POF] Sjru: I see.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I just want to play it safe and use my friend as a middleman
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: He has a wikicap, so he's a trusted part of the community
    [POF] Sjru: OKey
    [POF] Sjru: He says that this dude sell buds for 35$ http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/871847
    [POF] Sjru: So he ask if you could post there you want 6,5 and add that dude, thus buying him, then my friend would sell you the HOUWAR for that
    [POF] Sjru: He says it would only take 5 mins
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I don't understand why he won't trade for my money?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Yes, but I don't trust anyone on the internet see
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: and want to play it safe by only doing one transaction to revieve my item
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I understand why he's being cautious and all, but i'm offering to use a middleman who I trust with my life who has a wikicap
    [POF] Sjru: He says that his paypal it's blocked
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Why..?
    [POF] Sjru: so he says the only way is by you buying the buds with money then trade directly the buds for the houwar
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Can he not just create a new paypal?
    [POF] Sjru: He says he is IP blocked, thus he cannot create other u_u
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Why in god's name would he be IP blocked
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Paypal wouldn't do that
    [POF] Sjru: He says that he doesn't want to get scammed though, and ask if you wouldn't want to buy the buds directly from this guy? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/871847
    [POF] Sjru: He says you could use official steamrep middleman, they don't charge anything
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: He's not going to get scammed if he's using my middleman
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: The guy has a wikicap for christ sake
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Why can't he see that only trusted and valued members of the community get them? T_T
    [POF] Sjru: Can you give me your friend's steam link??
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Evaldas256
    [POF] Sjru: He says that he cannot trust on middleman who are you friend as he could get scammed neverthless, also says that you wouldn't do it if he proposed a middleman who was his friend
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Does his friend have a wikicap
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: jesus christ, you guys aren't taking in the account the importance of the wikicap
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: x_x
    [POF] Sjru: He says that it's only a wiki cap.
    [POF] Sjru: he says that if you want to do the trade, you have to use official steamrep middleman,
    [POF] Sjru: Also he says that guy you said is not on your FL
    [POF] Sjru: So?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Hmm? Sorry was going through facebook pictures like a pervert x)
    [POF] Sjru: lol
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: He should be on my friends list, I might've deleted him whilst cleaning it out
    [POF] Sjru: Oh
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: secondly, a wikicap represents that he's done alot for the community and should be trustworthy enough..
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I've never seen a scammer with an 07 account
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: or 3k hours in TF2.
    [POF] Sjru: He says that he already has a middleman from steamrep at hand
    [POF] Sjru: He also says that he will deal with the comission the middleman charges
    [POF] Sjru: so it wouldn't hurt to do it :)
    [POF] Sjru: So?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I don't even know what steamrep is
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: and isn't this a mutlichat? Is this guy autistic or something and can't speak to more than one person?
    [POF] Sjru: He doesn't know english well
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Well i'd assume he would if he sets his country to United Staes..
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: States*
    [POF] Sjru: Well Steamrep is a website dedicated to tag and keep track of scammers of TF2 and or steam, also provided real, and trusted middlemans to trade in risky situations for both parties, like now. Also people can report people for scamming or suspicious activity.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Shouldn't that be like.. on steam rather than being third party?
    [POF] Sjru: Well Valve hasn't done nothing oficially to stop scammers, so this is indeed a organization to do so.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Well, as much as i'd like to try the middleman out, it's only an third party website that reccomends him..
    [POF] Sjru: Thousand of people use that website and is really trusted, refusing to use official middleman is really suspicious mind you,.
    [POF] Sjru: So he also ask, if you know what's a middleman, how you don't know what is that website about?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Because a middleman is used in everything online
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: lol
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: It's not hard to define it either
    [POF] Sjru: He says that other user is offering 320$ straight and is willing to do middleman.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I can't out do that
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: and I offered to do a middleman who has an official item from valve saying he's trusted
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: but meh
    [POF] Sjru: But it doesn't make sense.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: He's best off going with the $320 offer
    [POF] Sjru: So what do you decide then?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I'm sticking with $240 and my middleman
    [POF] Sjru: Wasn't 340?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: I don't understand why you don't trust him.. Only like 10-15 wikicaps were given out
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: no, $240
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Houwars aren't worth like 10 buds..
    [POF] Sjru: He says that is simple, just buy off the buds from the guy and trade to him
    [GMS] Skull Spectre está jugando a Team Fortress 2. Haz clic aquí para entrar.
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: Wel.. so?
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: Well so?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: $240 is a lot of money and I will only trust it with my middleman.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Sorry
    [POF] Sjru: But trusted middleman is better than a random guy with wiki cap
    [POF] Sjru: As thousand of persons use trusted middleman for even 500$ trades.
    [POF] Sjru: And everyone can get a wiki cap if they put a lot of effort editing the wiki.
    [POF] Sjru: And yes, there are wiki cap holder who scam, like carter.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Who?
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: well so what
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: you accept , using middleman steam rep
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: or not?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Nah, it's cool
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Thanks for your time anyway
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: Wait
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: ok
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: so
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: you middleman?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: What?
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: your middleman
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: using
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: your middleman?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Yeah, sure
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: ok
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: He's not online at the moment
    [GMS] Skull Spectre: so
    [POF] Sjru: Carter is a wiki cap holder who scammed
    [POF] Sjru: http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=http://steamcommunity.com/id/primeval_warrior/
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Didn't he get hijacked?
    [POF] Sjru: As you can see, having a wiki cap doesn't mean they're reliable, however trusted middlemans are reliable
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: it says he got hijacked
    [POF] Sjru: no, he hijacked
    [POF] Sjru: a guy's account
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Who? :s
    [POF] Sjru: http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=92036&start=90
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: yah, i'm reading it now
    [POF] Sjru: So you understand why my friend doesn't want to use that wiki cap holder as middleman?
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Partially
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: but that was due to hijacking
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: and wasn't using his main account
    [POF] Sjru: The guy was the brain of all of it
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle: Evaldas256 is quite obviously using his main account :s
    [POF] Sjru: But still doesn't have a trusted tag on steamrep
    [POF] Sjru: You see, people here steamrep.com/group.php?id=M are trusted
    [POF] Sjru: Also he's only asking you to exchange the money into buds so he can do a direct trade.
    [GMS] Skull Spectre ha abandonado el chat.
    Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Squirtle ha abandonado el chat.
    Tu estado es Desconectado.
    Has perdido la conexión con Steam; te volverás a unir al chat automáticamente en cuanto se vuelva a recuperar la conexión.

    Thanks.
  2. HelenAngel

    HelenAngel Retired Staff

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:8627755
    Definitely suspicious. While there's not enough here to mark the guy as a scammer, I will make a note of this. Thank you for your report! :)