Accepted Report: 76561198038972151 - ([Steam] Steam Games)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [Steam] Steam Games

Accused profile: 76561198038972151 ()

Victim profile: 76561197961186404

What happened? Description:

Person contacted me directly through steam by adding as a friend.

Person offered to trade Steam game (Tomb Raider) for Paypal cash. He provided screenshots of successful transactions with people he's traded with. It seemed convincing enough that I was willing to trade the game first and he would pay the cash afterwards. As soon as he had the game, he pretended to have successfully sent a payment but quoted an incorrect email address just before blocking all communication with me.​

Provide Evidence:

All evidence is provided as screenshots (including chat window).

Included below is the chat log in its entirety:

DeathGuy: You added me to your friends list yesterday.
Toxic: Ehm
DeathGuy: Was it about a trade on SGS?
Toxic: i forget for what game i added you
Toxic: yes
DeathGuy: The games I have left are Tomb Raider, Shadowrun Returns, and Gone Home
Toxic: for tomb raider
Toxic: do you accept payla?
Toxic: paypal*
DeathGuy: I have a paypal account but ive never accepted a trade with paypal. Can i see your steamrep?
Toxic: steamrep is down for the moment
Toxic: tried to look for a guy minutes ago
DeathGuy: I'm looking at the webpage right now, it works just fine
Toxic: a ok 1 sec
Toxic: ToxicPM
Toxic: search
DeathGuy: kk, hang on
DeathGuy: whats your reddit username?
Toxic: ToxicPM
Toxic: http://www.reddit.com/user/ToxicPM/
DeathGuy: do you have a flair profile? do you trade on SGS?
Toxic: Im new on trading..
Toxic: i cant even use market yet
DeathGuy: Okay, well, I'll do the trade with you. We are breaking the rules technically.
DeathGuy: You have to pay first
DeathGuy: I'll initiate the trade with you afterwards
DeathGuy: my paypal account is [email protected]. how much are you offering for tomb raider?
Toxic: I want game 1st.. i don't want to lose since i trade from 1 day. It will be ridicoulos to be scammed in 2nd day.
Toxic: let me take ss of paypal for proof if you want
Toxic: 1 sec
DeathGuy: I'm concerned enough with scamming as it is. I won't do it that way.
Toxic: http://gyazo.com/20667498296f9902c4ee929e9e995387
DeathGuy: I have 3 confirmed trades and my steamrep is: http://steamrep.com/search?q=Death_Guy
DeathGuy: http://www.reddit.com/r/sgsflair/comments/2582n1/flair_profile_udeadly4u/
Toxic: Yesterday i already did 4 trades with paypal..
DeathGuy: Care to screenshot the transaction history?
Toxic: Care?
DeathGuy: would you please*
Toxic: 1 minute
Toxic: http://gyazo.com/0ec49bfbe70b30fe0681189137fd1174
Toxic: this is 1st
Toxic: and this is 2nd
Toxic: http://gyazo.com/65cf1df37aaa6f1852d2814abd35bdd3
DeathGuy: Okay I'll accept that you'll pay after. How much are you offering for Tomb Raider?
Toxic: 1st how much do you ask?
Toxic: you are the seller you must to say a price
DeathGuy: 18 or best offer
Toxic: 18 usd?
DeathGuy: yes
Toxic: or euro
Toxic: ok
Toxic: wait
Toxic: 1 sec i check something
Toxic: ok
You have accepted the trade request from Toxic.
DeathGuy: btw, the trade window has warned me that you've been reported for trade scams
Toxic: what?
DeathGuy: sec, ill screenshot
Toxic: ok
Toxic: or maybe is that
Toxic: under "make trade"
Toxic: flah this as a suspected scam?
Toxic: flag*
DeathGuy: i'll show you, sec
DeathGuy: http://imgur.com/KSIQU1i
Toxic: s✿✿✿
Toxic: steam warned me too
Toxic: about "scam"
Toxic: so i added 1 item
Toxic: at each trade..
Toxic: when i try to press ready
Toxic: and i dont offer anything
Toxic: ..
Toxic: it will be removed?
DeathGuy: Well, you have evidence of good trades, i'll take a chance on you. However, you should consider changing the way you do trading.
Toxic: it can happens something
Toxic: if i use paypal
Toxic: on steam?
DeathGuy: you can buy games on steam using paypal, no problem. but you can offer cash in a trade with paypal or steam wallet.
DeathGuy: Maybe I'm not sure what you're asking? (what is your native language)
Toxic: romanian
DeathGuy: I wish my my romanian friend was here right now, haha.
Toxic: xD
DeathGuy: anyways, we'll do the trade, you paypal me 18usd after I send you the game. If there is foul-play, I'll be making reports
Toxic: foul play?
Toxic: you mean scam?
DeathGuy: yes
Toxic: ok
Toxic: but when i press ready
Toxic: dont click "make trade"
Toxic: i want to show you what it says to me..
DeathGuy: kk
Toxic: you have to press 1st i guess
DeathGuy: it says "toxic has not offered any items in the trade. When this trade is completed, you will not have received anything. blah blah blah, they may be attempting to scam you.
Toxic: yes that thing
DeathGuy: its not the same as the message I received. This is just a warning, the earlier message I received indicated that you have been reported for scamming before.
Toxic: and this warn isnt from those messages?
DeathGuy: No, this warning is not from those messages
Toxic: than i have no ideea
Toxic: i will contact steam support
DeathGuy: Best of luck with that. Anyways, onwards with the trade?
Toxic: ok
DeathGuy: again, paypal email is [email protected] and payment is 18usd
DeathGuy: ready?
Toxic: yes
Toxic: i send
Toxic: as family
Toxic: friends
Toxic: for no fees right?
DeathGuy: yes
Toxic: ok you can press make trade
Toxic: now please wait few seconds
Toxic: 18 USD
Toxic: want message?
Toxic: you there?
Toxic: hello?
DeathGuy: yup
Toxic: what message
Toxic: ?
DeathGuy: Trade is complete, im going to check my email
DeathGuy: one sec
Toxic: ok i send now
Toxic: [email protected]
Toxic: done
Toxic is now Offline.
Toxic is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
DeathGuy: [email protected] not [email protected]​

Ready for review.

Nice there, you try same as me? This guy try to over pay x2 if not report
DeathGuy said an email on Reddit, and with every guy with who he talk other one. And the screens are modify with Shift + Ctrl + C so good luck.

Bump?

Hello @DeathGuy,

It's important that everyone understand that SteamRep is a small volunteer organization helping a 75-million member community. Not every report will receive a response (and definitely not always right away). Not even Valve can handle all of the community's reports and they have incredible income. We're definitely not going to be able to do the same level of investigation on every individual report and you shouldn't expect that. Even if we tripled our staff, there's simply no volunteer group that can handle such volume and the growth in this scene. (Gone are the days of a mere dozen trade servers to monitor and an in-game TF2 trade window.)

We prioritize reports for investigation based on a number of factors-- we will publish those after our staff finishes rounding out some of the priorities and we run them by our partner admins. We'll also be updating the scam report form to set expectations accordingly for new submitters.

One key thing we prioritize for investigation, though, is the quantity of scam reports submitted against an account. By submitting a report against a repeat offender, you help ensure they do get banned as quickly as possible through the community and provide guidance to other traders on your experience with them. SteamRep provides a public capture of these reports so traders can educate themselves and do better research even if each report can't be analyzed right away. We feel it's better to have these situations logged rather than lost entirely (e.g. if you report a violation on Steam, it helps Valve know quantities, but may not help traders understand what actually happened so they can make their own decisions to protect themselves).

DeathGuy and I resolved this matter privately, please delete this thread

Agreed. We resolved this privately, it was a misunderstanding. He is a good guy. Please delete this thread.

He reached out to me on Steam and he gave me what I had originally asked for after realizing his mistake. He also gave me an additional game that I requested for the time it took to resolve this (Game of Thrones - Telltale Games).

No, I can't make a screenshot. That discussion is long since past.

I received a 20$ paysafecard and "Game of Thrones - Telltale Games".