Pending Report: 76561198056577853 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198056577853

Victim profile: 76561198143278495

What happened? Description:

I offered to pay directly via Paypal for his unusual taunt , I sent him the money. After he receives it he claims it is an invoice (probably because of the new scam that is all the rage atm http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/scam-reports-paypal-invoices.60852/), after which I showed him my balance ect. (the conversation is below, please ignore the weed emoticon spam I was waiting and making a picture), after which he removed me. He also had an accomplice:
| steamname: Rikka #LFT-Medic-6's
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:80893777
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122053282
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/rikka4444
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198122053282
This conversation has been posted below as well, also he removed me after claiming this as well. Currently I have charged back the funds so on that end it is all good but this should not be acceptable.
The two screenshots below are that of my balance before and after the transaction.
I denied to send anymore screenshots because they were obviously scamming and this meant that they may be phishing for information on there accounts.
I have never really seen anyone try anything like this by convincing someone that they have been scammed by them when they are the one's scamming, so I was fairly confused at the time. I would I highly appreciate if these 2 individuals could receive judgement thank you!.​

Provide Evidence:

Conversation with scammer:
Banana Rama: Hey man
Banana Rama: you added me?
Banana Rama is now Online.
Mick Taylor: hey
Mick Taylor: I was wondering if you would take paypal for your buy alife mega strike?
Banana Rama is now playing Garry's Mod. Click here to join.
Mick Taylor: You there?
Mick Taylor: i saw you typing
Banana Rama: SORRY MAN
Banana Rama: oops
Banana Rama: cpu stuffed up
Banana Rama: anyways
Mick Taylor: k no problem
Banana Rama: i would have to ask for a bit more
Mick Taylor: What do you mean?
Banana Rama: like
Banana Rama: a bit more money
Mick Taylor: hmm how much?
Banana Rama: as ill have to make a pay pal
Banana Rama: offer?
Mick Taylor: well what about 250?
Mick Taylor: USD
Banana Rama: sounds good
Mick Taylor: cool
Mick Taylor: so you are going to make account and then?
Banana Rama: im making one now
Mick Taylor: ok
Mick Taylor: are you ok with payying first or no?
Banana Rama: me paying first?
Banana Rama: no not really
Mick Taylor: ok
Mick Taylor: just curious I'll pay first then
Banana Rama: thanks
Banana Rama: when i get payment ill send over the taunt
Mick Taylor: ok
Mick Taylor: Just so I can get a screenshot, could you say yes to the following?
Mick Taylor: Do you agree to trading me the mega strike buy a life taunt after you recieve notfication from paypal for $250
Banana Rama: yes
Mick Taylor: ty
Mick Taylor: screen shot taken
Mick Taylor: tell me when you are done too
Banana Rama: done
Mick Taylor: cool what is your paypal email?
Banana Rama: lucas.fraccaro12@gmailcom
Banana Rama: gmail.com
Mick Taylor: cool
Banana Rama: sending it now?
Mick Taylor: yes
Mick Taylor: I'll tell you when I am done
Banana Rama: wait
Mick Taylor: Sent
Banana Rama: stop
Mick Taylor: wat
Banana Rama: are you scamming me
Banana Rama: you have no rep
Mick Taylor: I sent it
Banana Rama: youve played 12 hpirs
Banana Rama: youve used an achievement thing
Banana Rama: show me your steamrep page
Mick Taylor: yes I have, but I am not scamming you and in fact you can check your email right now if you want
Banana Rama: im getting my advisor to talk to you
Mick Taylor: http://steamrep.com/search?q=bibbles99
Mick Taylor: rep page
Mick Taylor: Don't have any previous offences and look at what I own. I am a legit trade
Mick Taylor: trader*
Banana Rama: the money hasnt come through yet
Mick Taylor: the majority of my items were not aquired on my main account
Mick Taylor: keep refresshing it might take a bit
Mick Taylor: are you checking your email?
Banana Rama: yeh
Banana Rama: give it 5 mins
Mick Taylor: ok
Mick Taylor: I'll send a trade offer and when you get the email tell me or accept either works
Banana Rama: kk
Mick Taylor: I am going to be on outpost if you need me
Banana Rama: ok
Banana Rama: why does it say that i have to pay you money?
Mick Taylor: No I sent money directly , I swear to god if you don't pay up you are getting reported though
Banana Rama: mate you are looking like a scammer
Banana Rama: and you can not report me
Banana Rama: because you look like you are scamming me
Banana Rama: mate the money hasnt even come up in my balance
Banana Rama: dude you are asking for money you c✿✿✿
Mick Taylor: k back
Mick Taylor: can take 24 hours
Banana Rama: but it says you sent me an invoie
Banana Rama: saying i have to pay it
Mick Taylor: that is marked as payed from me, the money has left my balance I have screenshots you can get reported
Banana Rama: show me screen shots...
Mick Taylor: I'll go onto imgur and upload them in a sec
Banana Rama: okay thanks
Banana Rama: you doing it?
Mick Taylor: yes
Banana Rama: mate this is taking a while
Mick Taylor: Sorry have to relog and take screenshot of new balance
Banana Rama: ok
Mick Taylor: got it gonna upload
Banana Rama: done?
Mick Taylor: Before: http://imgur.com/FWxPcL3
Mick Taylor: After: http://imgur.com/msplaFs
Mick Taylor: If you don't believe I will report you
Mick Taylor: you might be ✿✿✿✿✿✿ed and or http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/gmod http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/A http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/Y http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed
Banana Rama: i need to see times
Mick Taylor: As in?
Banana Rama: when the screen shots were taken4'
Mick Taylor: um well the original was before I sent you the money and the other was after and exactly 250 USD is missing fom my account aswell
Mick Taylor: http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed http://cdn.steamcommunity.com/economy/emoticon/weed
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Mick Taylor: weed awp
Mick Taylor: Listen I am gonna start writing upp that report for you on steamrep if you don't give my money back or pay up k?
Banana Rama: send me a screen shot of your recent activity
Mick Taylor: That would give you a screenshot of people I have worked with and their information I am not going to hand that away sorry
Banana Rama: of the last transaction
Banana Rama: show me
Mick Taylor: I am wirting your steam rep report right now
Mick Taylor: if you add me on skype I can screen share
Banana Rama: um
Banana Rama: you sent me an invoice bro
Banana Rama: f✿✿✿ off c✿✿✿
Banana Rama is now Offline.

Conversation with accomplice:

Mick Taylor: Hello?
Rikka #LFT: hi
Mick Taylor: Hello
Rikka #LFT: you're trading with one of my mates
Mick Taylor: Yes I am
Rikka #LFT: im just here to make sure you arent scamming him
Mick Taylor: ok no problemo
Rikka #LFT: which i highly suspect you are
Mick Taylor: Well any details about the trade you can get from him.
Mick Taylor: \
Rikka #LFT: sure
Rikka #LFT: since you know why im here i may as well be blunt. how the f✿✿✿ does an account with 11 hours, no rep, and hardly any items have 2 unusuals and 250 to drop on an unusual
Mick Taylor: mainly because I am a good trader, you check my invent aand my rep page I have no offences and quired my items on here
Mick Taylor: I have some cash from selling some stuff
Rikka #LFT: and why exactly did you send my friend a bill for 250?
Mick Taylor: I sent cash, have you ever used paypal before?
Rikka #LFT: im almost certain thats a bill, from requesting money. additionally your address doesnt exist
Rikka #LFT: phone number is fake too
Mick Taylor: I didn't give you my details, stop peeping, and they are real try calling
Mick Taylor: or I will remove you
Rikka #LFT: sorry just watching out for my mate
Rikka #LFT: you literally sent him an invoice for him to pay you. i just checked it with invoices i've recieved from when i shop online and its the same thing.
Rikka #LFT: so fix it
Rikka #LFT: or stop trying to scam him
Rikka #LFT: aight now go get f✿✿✿ed
Rikka #LFT: you're a little c✿✿✿ i hope you cry yourself to sleep, but nice try
Mick Taylor: I am writing a report on your mate go get f✿✿✿ed because I will put you as an accomplace
Rikka #LFT: go for your life, i
Rikka #LFT: know it was a scam
Rikka #LFT: i just sent him the exact same thing you sent him
Mick Taylor: plus I am 5,10 not littlw
Rikka #LFT: im 6'5 you little b✿✿✿✿
Mick Taylor: bs
Mick Taylor: and OOOOH more proof he removed me
Mick Taylor: scammer
Mick Taylor: scammer
Rikka #LFT: top f✿✿✿✿✿✿ kek i told him to remove you
Mick Taylor: definate accomplace then
Rikka #LFT: accomplice in this case means i stopped your sorry ass from scamming him
Mick Taylor: so you think 12 + 12 = 24 year old with knowledge they don't btw
Rikka #LFT: i don't know if you're implying that we're 12 but whatever
Rikka #LFT: i know what i'm doing
Rikka #LFT: i know what you're doing
Rikka #LFT: you've already been reported btw
Rikka #LFT is now Offline.​

excuse the vulgarity used at some points near the end...

They have reported me now here : http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198143278495-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.77275/
My reply (they may attempt to delete or report it so I will quote it here - "Please direct your attention to the following admins and others;
- My report on these 2: http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198056577853-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.77276/
- The lack of provided evidence (it literally is a conversation between the two of them)
- The images could have been edited quite easily
- I did not remove him he removed me
- This is not provided by the person who scammed me but his accomplice
- This man shared my details with out my permission
- These 2 are most likely trying to use this report to stop mine from getting them banned
Thank you for your time and I hope you apply judgement correctly!"
Thank you for reading this

You will need to post an uncropped screenshot of your paypal history.

I am not comfortable posting this as there are passer by's like your self but if a admin wants me to send a image to them I am fie with that

fine*

Attempted phish by accomplice as well:

Code:

Never tell your password to anyone.
Friday, 12 September 2014
Mick Taylor: WHAT DO YOU WANT
Rikka #LFT: plz take down report
Mick Taylor: No you tried to scam me, you are going down
Rikka #LFT: plz man
Rikka #LFT: here ill send you my main account and i will pay you to ttake down
Rikka #LFT: www dot steamcornmunity dot com slash id slash 787899778723099881
Mick Taylor: WOW PHISHING AS WELL STEAM corn-munity
Mick Taylor: I didn't know steam sells maze now
Mick Taylor: Ass wipe
Rikka #LFT is now Offline.

/admin edit: do NOT post active phishing links.

I didn't click on the link btw, don't know what will happen wouldn't recommend anyone else try either

You have already uploaded a screenshot of your paypal account showing your name, I don't see why showing transaction history would be a problem. But that's your call if you only want to show it to an admin.

that chat log of me that he claims is fake, i never sent him the phishing link. i have a good account and lots of hours, i wouldn't jeopardize it so stupidly.

i can provide more proof of the invoice he sent as banana rama still has the email i assume.

i'll address all his points:

They have reported me now here : http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561198143278495-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.77275/
My reply (they may attempt to delete or report it so I will quote it here - "Please direct your attention to the following admins and others;

- The lack of provided evidence (it literally is a conversation between the two of them)
except for the images of your invoice you sent banana rama
- The images could have been edited quite easily
same goies for you i suppose, even more so for your faked chat logs
- I did not remove him he removed me
bullshut. i went back to check our chat history to post it here and you'd removed me
- This is not provided by the person who scammed me but his accomplice
the person who you tried to scam almost fell for it, until he asked me if i could find him keys he coiuld buy via paypal. i asked him where he was getting the money and alerted me to this trade. i then added mick taylor and proved to banana he was being scammed.
- This man shared my details with out my permission
you're damn f✿✿✿✿✿✿ right i did. doesn't matter, the address and phone number are both fake.
- These 2 are most likely trying to use this report to stop mine from getting them banned
OR we're trying to prove you are a cheating f✿✿✿


so called chat log from me:

Code:

Friday, 12 September 2014
Mick Taylor: WHAT DO YOU WANT
Rikka #LFT: plz take down report
Mick Taylor: No you tried to scam me, you are going down
Rikka #LFT: plz man
Rikka #LFT: here ill send you my main account and i will pay you to ttake down
Rikka #LFT: www DOT steamcornmunity DOT com SLASH id SLASH 787899778723099881
Mick Taylor: WOW PHISHING AS WELL STEAM corn-munity
Mick Taylor: I didn't know steam sells maze now
Mick Taylor: Ass wipe
Rikka #LFT is now Offline.

it uses obviously different language and conjunctions than i do. this is a fabricated log. screenshots are good proof of logs, not this.

as such, here are two screenshots of chat between me and banana:

http://imgur.com/a/edKov

note that the imgur link banana sent me twice is missing a lowercase s from the end

/admin edit: DO NOT POST ACTIVE PHISHING LINKS.

additionally, i'd like to draw attention to this line:

he's confirming that he sent and invoice and marked it as paid. does this need to go further?

one last thing, sorry for the triple post.

just because money was removed from the account doesn't mean shut, afaik you juust moved it back into your bank account or shipped it off somewhere else for the screenshot

All I can say is that he is lying and whether I am believed in or not that is up to that person and I am fine with their choice. As you can see from reading he is angry and changing information to benefit him. May I draw your attention to:
-Fake evidence there is no evidence this conversation took place (Banana Rama: but it says you sent me an invoie
Banana Rama: saying i have to pay it
Mick Taylor: that is marked as payed from me, the money has left my balance I have screenshots you can get reported
- Denial "it uses obviously different language and conjunctions than i do. this is a fabricated log. screenshots are good proof of logs, not this."
-Very aggressive and inappropriate behavior "you're damn f✿✿✿✿✿✿ right i did. doesn't matter, the address and phone number are both fake."
-Lying "bullshut. i went back to check our chat history to post it here and you'd removed me"
-Attempted cover up against evidence "same goies for you i suppose, even more so for your faked chat logs"
-Could have edited an invoice he sent in fact it is mentioned in his report that he sent one to his accomplice
-Editing more images isn't going to help "i can provide more proof of the invoice he sent as banana rama still has the email i assume."
-From the profile picture you can assume he is very young, in fact most likely too underage to be playing team fortress in the first place
As you can see he is just making stuff up on the spot because he made a bad report, and is scarred of being banned. For example he neglects to show a chat log of my self and him where as I do, he sees that I have the chat log
and edits it, if he had any "other" proof he should have put it with the original report and anything from then on, could be wrong. Furthermore the reports were posted a minute apart, and mine has a lot more evidence, meaning that I would in fact not
have time to send Paypal money between multiple accounts, Edit the messages and make up the amount of lies he claims I have made. I feel as though his points are invalid and should be read with precaution. I am very tired at the moment as it is late, excuse my grammar and punctuation

Thank you for reading!
Have a great night (unless you are 1 of these 2 scammers/phishers/liers than go away!)
Yours, Jaden C. McKinlay

This is you CONFIRMING that you sent him an invoice, and marked it as paid. An I voice is only sent when you are requesting money. Why would you send an invoice aside from to scam him?

This is denial I suppose, because it's the truth and I deny blatant lies.

I'm aggressive at you, I'm sorry if it offends any other site users. But I'm not gonna sit here and take s✿✿✿ from you.

Not lying, you removed me.

Says the guy claiming I shopped images. The so called chat log uses completely different language than I do and you can see that through my other chat logs and my posts here.

I recieved an invoice from banana rama in order to completely confirm that what you sent was, in fact, a scam. We weren't sure so we recreated it ourselves.

I'm not editing anything. If needed I will use a separate camera and record myself going into the email.

And how did you reach this conclusion? Because my profile picture is not of a person? How is yours any different?
I think from the way I talk and my steam account it should be obvious I'm plenty old to be playing TF2. Additionally this is an irrelevant point.

You have one real chat log and one fake chat log. That's not evidence. Additionally, you removed me so I can't produce a chat log. And unlike you, I'm not going to fabricate one.