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Archived Report: 76561198060976608 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by ♡Chocolate♡, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. ♡Chocolate♡

    ♡Chocolate♡ New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Accomplice] Trading with marked scammers or hijackers
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198060976608

    Victim profile: 76561198064645544

    What happened? Description:
    Traded with http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198089019340 - Very obvious scammer alt: http://steamcommunity.com/id/wiwi124/

    http://i.imgur.com/KlwCSKt.png was sold to -GoV- Lady♡Gyal [REMP]: http://backpack.tf/item/2529558547

    -GoV- Lady♡Gyal [REMP] traded the following items as well:

    http://backpack.tf/item/150714393
    http://backpack.tf/item/92475383
    http://backpack.tf/item/93888484

    The alt traded these away from the backpack but they have been recorded on the histories.​

    Provide Evidence:
    Item histories as well as proof that the accused traded with an obvious alt of a marked scammer.​

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  2. -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP]

    -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP] Partner Community

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    Sad but true i did a mistake, was checking up trade.tf as usual when i found the antler on backpack.tf homepage, checked steamrep(clean), checked outpost(clean), backpack.tf (clean, the -reps came later), checked his backpack, and while he had few items on tf2 (saw some weapons and unusuals) he had well over 900 high tier items on dota2, and considerin he have 155 hours played last 2 weeks i just tought he was a dota2 player who got some tf2 items and was selling them cheap for pure only, a low lvl not always means scammer,what im tryin to say is that the alt wasnt so obvious at all IMO, also, i had a chat with Ace (the prev owner who got scammed) and offered him to give back the antler for exactly what i paid (3 buds), he said that atm he could not afford it and i offered him to keep me added until he could but instead his friend (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198090996356) bought it back under ace knowledge.
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  3. George Washington

    George Washington New User

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    i got the antlers now, me and my friend ace the guy who got scammed are together selling the antlers now. we bought it back from this guy -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP]. he was willing to return the unusual back as long as he get what he paid for it which is 3 buds.
    i helped ace my friend out to get his antlers back and he will pay me back 3 buds when he get the enough buds, bud for meanwhile we will try and sell the antlers and and try to get my 3 buds back and give the rest of the buds to him if ever we sell it.
    Ace http://steamcommunity.com/id/lithuania2014

    Guys no need to worry about
  4. ♡Chocolate♡

    ♡Chocolate♡ New User

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    Did an F2P backpack and 16 hours of TF2, as well as the fact that he was actually selling the Unusual for almost 80% off its true value not raise the alarm for you?

    It does not matter whether the scammer alt appeared to you as one or not, the fact remains that everyone else will consider it as one given all the factors. Simply - you still fenced a high-value Unusual.

    http://backpack.tf/item/2529558547

    The history here shows that the owner of the Unusual prior to the scammer alt you traded with is already marked on SteamRep - further confirming that it was an obvious one. And don't tell me you didn't check the history of the item before trading --- you as a high tier trader & not to mention admin of a trading community would definitely want to know whether the item you were trading for was clean or duped, am I right?

    http://backpack.tf/trust/76561198060976608

    Not to mention that over half of your backpack.tf trust consists of fake reps that do not concern cash trades or any trade that requires real trust.

    Point is, as the rule goes - if you are unsure of whether it is safe to trade or not, DON'T. You are accountable for any trade you make with scammer alts and hijackers. As you said, there were many suspicious things regarding that account, yet you still traded him despite knowing this.

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  5. ♡Chocolate♡

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    This only happened after this report as well as several negative reps were published.

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  6. -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP]

    -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP] Partner Community

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    All my backpack.tf reps are legit, feel free to add each guy and ask no problem, and as i said, 600 dota2 VALUABLE items (not 900,my mistake) made me think that he got the tf2 items from a dota2 deal, and he was selling them cheap for pure only because not confident with the tf2 market, 155 hours played last 2 weeks made me think all except an alt account and as i said i checked all rep sites i know off (bp.tf,steamrep,outpost) where the guy was clean with no reports, anyway i let the steamrep staff check this story out, my only point is that the account wasnt obvious as you state, and i offered to give the hat back to Ace way before get -repped on bp.tf
  7. -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP]

    -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP] Partner Community

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    Not true, got george added after 5 mins from buying the hat, i just wanted to wait for Ace give me permission to give the hat to his friend, did not wanted the antler to end to someone else hand without ace know
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    ♡Chocolate♡ New User

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    Let's just say that if you really believed that it wasn't actually a scammer alt you would've brushed off the add since you traded it legitimately and the guy was probably just trying to get something off you cheaply, which brings me to my second point ---

    Why would you trade it back if the account you bought it from was legitimate once someone found out about it?
  9. -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP]

    -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP] Partner Community

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    George added me and explained me the whole story, i even asked him for proofs about the guy being a scammer alt, only proof he was able to give me was Ace gettin directly scammed by him, had to add Ace, chat with him for some time, and then after all that i started to realize the scammer was indeed a scammer, after that we started to discuss about give the hat back to Ace for 3 buds (what i paid), anyway as an admin of such a big community, with 6000 hours, with a backpack worth that much do you really think i would ruin everything over a 5 bud hat if not legitimately sure the guy was clean? I would bought something bigger no? As i said, checked the guy out on all rep sites, checked his inventory, checked hours played and such, not saying im not guilty, just saying i REALLY and legitimately tought the guy was trade worthy
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  10. ♡Chocolate♡

    ♡Chocolate♡ New User

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    Of course you wouldn't ruin anything if you were never caught. You've been trading with scammers for months now. Mind explaining some of these?

    1. http://backpack.tf/item/2755939884 - sold for #4
    2. http://backpack.tf/item/2441029937
    3. http://backpack.tf/item/561791915
    4. http://backpack.tf/item/1330480662

    Don't bother telling us "oh, two of them are duped so I didn't trade them" because the other two are clean & not only show the definite trading history, but also prove that you traded the dupes with the same scammers.

    Mind you, they've been marked since forever, so what is the excuse now?

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  11. Jordan 2

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    Okay, I think it is about time for me to have my input as my friend and I where the one to notice this and i posted a status update on bp.tf - http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/statuses/user/6819-jordan/?status_id=82617 This started everything.

    After we saw the antlers on classifieds we noticed they were clearly a scammer due to the price of them and looking at the bp of the person, all items where new to his backpack. After a short period of time we looked back at the scammers bp and saw that the antlers were sold, and we thought oh which person purchased them.
    We looked at the histories of the buds and 3 buds has gyals name in the histories. So we clicked on gyals bp and we couldnt find the antlers in his bp. Then i posted the status and everything blew up on the forums and HALF hour later the antlers finally showed up in gyals bp - which made my friend and I think you traded the antlers quickly after the trade to remove your name from the histories and you only traded it back into your account because you knew everything was going down and wanted to recover while possible. You then added me and were panicking giving me no time to reply.
    http://imgur.com/8EThqVc,KZctqUp | http://i.imgur.com/7NHAaPQ.png | http://i.imgur.com/JzReSfi.png

  12. -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP]

    -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP] Partner Community

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    Eh tryin pretty hard now uh, the Scorching Ushanka wasnt traded with that Korra guy , traded it with a totally legit guy that added me about it, he gave me the o.planet tc+purple energy phantom, sold the phantom for 5 and gave the tc to my friend i was brokerin the ushanka for, then he traded it with psiiko that is in true Xenos, a guy that got marked way later after the trade with me and my friend, this last thing explains the 2. and 3. trades too where at the time Xenos wasnt marked yet, and btw this is the guy i traded the ushanka to (pic related)

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    -GoV- ✿Lady♡Gyal✿ [REMP] Partner Community

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    Here ya go ;)
    http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/report-76561197960788095-tf2-team-fortress-2-items.71403/
    Here is a more definitive proof that 3 of the hats above where traded from someone else to xenos, that btw at the time wasnt marked yet, indeed the report got archivied too, the ushanka is explained above with a screen so yeah, not guilty on any of those 4 trades
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    Even with these explanations, there are several things you have yet to address.

    1. You haven't told us why you didn't suspect anything when the owner of the Antlers before the extremely obvious scammer alt was a marked scammer (the owner after Ace).

    2. Doesn't it seem funny how the Team Captain came from Korra to you before going to psiiko? Hmm... Wait --- didn't the Scorching Ushanka end up with Korra as well?

    3. Why then, did the Antlers take so long to show up in your backpack? Is it because you knew that you were trading with a scammer alt and had to use a private alt of your own to do the trade?
  15. God Tier Rick James

    God Tier Rick James New User

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    Hi, I saw some questionable stuff right here, so Ace got scammed, I contacted him and he got scammed by switch scam, now the thing I see that is quite stupid, is this: http://backpack.tf/item/150714393, if ShowTime scammed Ace, why did the bud go to Ace?
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    The scammer bought the Steaming Ballcap back after changing his name.

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    Don't you think its quite stupid? The Ace dude seems like he has some problems, he gets scammed by bait and switch, he wasn't even selling the unusual, then bam some dude comes and buys it back? If a person that has advanced so much in trading, how can he be fooled by the most common scams in the game, explain that please.
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    Oh, by the way why are you Jordan in this picture, and Chocolate in others?
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    God Tier Rick James New User

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    Oh by the way, I see that you did the same mistake as Lady by buying from http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083924781, that was an obvious alt of a marked user. The unusual you bought: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22348716. http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/251922, you bought: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19690372, dude has been banned 7 times, had the unusual on an alt. The Purple Energy Trophy belt seems like you could have sharked it, but i'm not sure, so I will not include it in this rant.
  20. Grimes {NTOTB}

    Grimes {NTOTB} New User

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    Stop trying to derail the thread.