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Invalid Report: 76561198067287975 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Vection | trade.tf, Sep 23, 2019.

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  1. Vection | trade.tf

    Vection | trade.tf New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulent behavior
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198067287975

    Victim profile: 76561198287198615

    What happened? Description:
    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Trade Scam] Broken Agreement / [Other] Any other fraudulent behavior
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused Profile: | steamname: Mistress
    | steam3ID: [U:1:107022247]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:53511123
    | steamID64: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198067287975
    | customURL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Rivenftw
    | steamrep: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198067287975

    Victims Profile: | steamname: Vection
    | steam3ID: [U:1:326932887]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:163466443
    | steamID64: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198287198615
    | customURL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/VectionG
    | steamrep: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198287198615


    What happened? Description:

    Site https://cs.deals/

    Was buying an item off this website, it was flagged as fraud on my end, so my payment was blocked. Not wanting the item to get snagged up, I asked Mistress (76561198067287975) if he would be interesting in working out a deal, where I pay him a fee, if he buys me the item. He agrees, and buys / takes the item for himself.

    A high tier trader / collector in TF2, a trusted face in the Community and by his word made an agreement with me before he even knew what the item was, and only after finding out it was actually valuable and not a Vintage Max with Sparkle, he took it.

    They bought the item knowing full well the I had no clue of his intentions to break out agreement, and knew full well what he was doing all the while doing it.

    Him claim how upset / mad he was that he can't even wear it, and it sucks (Evidence .6)

    He had no clue this item existed and his high inventory value and reputation in the community led me to trust in someone who in my eyes is just simply not trustworthy, to take advantage of the situation I was in, he led me to believe that he had no interest in a deal so filled with potential that I had to give a warning before even saying what the item was.
    Quick to assure me that its fine and to let down my guard only to swoop in and un-wrap the item forever placing it in his account, after saying how much he wanted it and he loves it, Im shocked he would throw all it away rather then just offering to buy it directly off me...even if I had no plans to sell it, at least try..


    1. Telling mistress and he promises not to take items - https://imgur.com/a/v8zp0P.

    2.We agree that he will buy for me, and i will pay him back on a later day. - https://imgur.com/a/es6RMnV.

    3.Me telling i will pay him 300 extra for picking it up for me - https://imgur.com/a/lkG9bLR.

    4.Me making sure that if payment fails i agree to cover the fees eitherway - https://imgur.com/a/QwPqscU.

    5.Me telling Mistress that its giftwrapped and if the unwraps it it cant be wrapped again or traded again. - https://imgur.com/a/94uzuwh
    6. https://imgur.com/a/iDwv5yy (Upset / This sucks cant even wear it)


    7. https://imgur.com/a/nR03gty (Bringing up the situation on why I need his help)

    8. https://imgur.com/a/JvfFS1w (Why do I have to give this up)

    9. https://imgur.com/a/XCVm3on (I'd want to negotiate to keep this, but I don't have the power)

    10. https://imgur.com/a/8iD0x1N (Finding out that he scammed me)

    "Why do I have to give this up"

    Sums up that he knew exactly that it was something he was obligated to follow through with, and not sure if he scammed me because he did not care and the item was worth more in his eyes than his rep, or that he didn't think Id report or that I did not have screen shots or that he genuinally did not know it was a Community Max and did not care to scam it if he thought it was Vintage but after finding that out, boom.



    Even videos about it already, on how "The owner of the Max wants the Community Made Big Kill (I own, that is still Gift Wrapped ) and the Big Kill owner wants the Max, and making a joke about how they wont come to an agreement, information this creator could of only got from Mistress himself.​

    Provide Evidence:

    If Admins require the full chat, I can provide it, but its long (50-60) and its mostly filler, we also discuss deals, and other members in the community and offers / deals that they have made in private. If an Admin would like to add me, I can provide that information in a private setting, or if forced, public.
    (50-60 Screen Shots)

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  2. Vection | trade.tf

    Vection | trade.tf New User

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    If Admins require the full chat, I can provide it, but its long (50-60 Screen Shots) and its mostly filler, we also discuss deals, and other members in the community and offers / deals that they have made in private. If an Admin would like to add me, I can provide that information in a private setting, or if forced, public.
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    Vection | trade.tf New User

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    Open admitting to it. Saying he won't regret anything.

    Claim is there was no money given to him right away and thus the deal is void, the deal was upheld at my end, shortly after the deal was made and agreed to, and I went around and made commitments to other users and bothered them and perhaps upset them and had to settle with them because of him know-lying doing this, and clearly multiple times bragging about how its awesome and worth it.

    Its a sad sad day, its not about money, its about what should be honored and a rare item un-obtainable now. If he disputed this before taking permanent action I'd of discussed with him, like anyone else would have, to remind him of the situation, but he took actions in his own hands, and ruined it.

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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    So someone else purchased an item on a site that you couldn't and you feel like this is some how them stealing from you?
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    Vection | trade.tf New User

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    Its not nearly as simple as that, without a doubt an agreement was made and mistress wouldnt know of this unless he got that information from me and the only way he got that information was apart of that very deal. There was an agreement, and the loss is significant, significant for him to risk his rep and out right say he dosent care about his reputation and outright admits to the scam / fraud. Breaking an agreement that leaves me out of an invaluable item and item that in his own words. " Sucks I have to give back"
  6. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    You didn't trade for any steam item though.... doesn't matter what agreement you had. We can't investigate everything and would have no way to know if someone purchased something from another place/site or venue.
    We only investigate steam trades between you and the accused.

    How is this different than a bride to be telling her best friend about a great wedding dress to go get for her but instead purchases it for herself... maybe dirty af but not a scam at all.


    ALSO as a warning to ANYONE ELSE - if you post in this report and you are not the victim/accused or staff here then I will issue warnings and/or temp forum bans.
    Thanks!@
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    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I've issued temp bans and removed content that wasn't directed towards my reply.
    Next to post without permission that isn't victim/accused or staff will get a 3 month temp ban.
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    Vection | trade.tf New User

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    But i would ask you to reply to what they said, since they both of them made reasonable claims and arguments.
  9. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    I'm sorry but this is not a scam related issue that SR would get involved with, as dirty as it MIGHT sound.. this isn't something SR will investigate mainly because nothing transferred between either of you aside from conversation.
    Being upset that someone purchased the item you wanted before you could isn't a scam either that I know of anywhere.
    So with that I'm Invalidating the report.
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