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Invalid Report: 76561198097412213 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Discussion in 'Archived Reports' started by Sniper Pro, Dec 13, 2014.

  1. Sniper Pro

    Sniper Pro FirePowered Head Admin Partner Community

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulant behavior
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198097412213

    Victim profile: 76561198113365853

    What happened? Description:
    I'm reporting on behalf of the victim, fellenjuls ( http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198113365853 )

    On December 12, 2014, the victim unboxed a Sunbeams Winter Woodsman, and created an Outpost trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/24111329

    The accused, being a friend of the victim, was told that the hat had been unboxed, and shamelessly sharked the hat from him within 10 minutes of the unbox.

    Venom failed to provide any information on the value this hat would bring in, and instead made him an offer he called "generous." He pressured the victim into selling the hat quickly, claiming the hat was "unpriced" and never told him the enormous potential value the hat contained. The hat was then sold for around 10-15 Buds in items, and within 24 hours has already received multiple offers ranging in 50-60 buds in value. Venom knew exactly what he was doing and took every effort to cover it up, but it wasn't quite good enough. With the help of the victim, Snapper, harsheldon, and Retro, I was able to gather enough evidence for my Outpost report, and now this one. Big props to them.

    Full chat logs, item details, trade history, and victim statements can be found below.

    The Winter Woodsman: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965476,30549,5

    Was given in return for:
    Planets Dead Cone: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965467,435,5
    Vivid Plasma Tyrant's Helm: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965456,99,5
    Antifreeze Fruit Shoot: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965269,759,5
    Smoking Thirst Blood: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965253,30479,5
    Max's Severed Head: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965449,162,6
    Strange Festive Holy Mackerel: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,3280965435,999,11
    + 11 Keys

    The full trade history screenshot is included in the evidence below.

    Venom has already been banned from TF2-T and PPM servers, and hopefully Outpost is the next in line. In the chat logs with Retro, you can clearly see him doctoring the whole situation and trying to lay out why this was not a shark by manipulating Outpost rules. He said he's in the clear, because if he gets an Outpost ban he can just refund it and everything will be fine. Isn't that nice.

    I ask SteamRep to look at the evidence below and ask if this person is truly any better than a scammer.​

    Provide Evidence:
    All chat logs, trade history, and item history screenshots can be found below.​

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  2. Sniper Pro

    Sniper Pro FirePowered Head Admin Partner Community

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    Update:

    Accused is now banned on Outpost: http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/550469

    It was clear from some of the responses he gave on his trade that he felt no remorse for what he's done. In my mind, even if he decides to return the hat, there is no reason any punishment should be lessened if SteamRep decides to act.
  3. ☣Solaire☣

    ☣Solaire☣ New User

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    Hello @Sniper Pro , I am sorry for fellenjuls loss, I being a friend of the once trustworthy Venom can't believe he actually sharked. I thought he was a decent trader..... Unfortunately Steam Rep does not mark for Sharking... Yes Steam Rep DOES HATE SHARKERS but it's not scamming. Scamming requires a breach of trade agreement. Well atleast he's banned for sharking on TF2OP.
  4. Sniper Pro

    Sniper Pro FirePowered Head Admin Partner Community

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    I don't understand how they can ban for all these other types of trade fraud but not include sharking. Everyone knows what it is and the community desperately needs to recognize why it's wrong.
  5. fallenjuls

    fallenjuls New User

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    I hate venom and I want my hat back :(
  6. [PPM]TheVenomWithin

    [PPM]TheVenomWithin New User

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    Probably should have done your background research before wasting your time on a report. Waiting for this to get closed.

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  7. Sniper Pro

    Sniper Pro FirePowered Head Admin Partner Community

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    No biggie, I basically just copy/pasted the report I banned you with on Outpost. :) Great to see you're obviously so remorseful for what you did though, thanks for stopping by to display your arrogance once more.
  8. Axie

    Axie New User

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    Never realised Venom would do something like that, oh well, let's hope this homophobic sorrow will die in piece. -w-
  9. [PPM]TheVenomWithin

    [PPM]TheVenomWithin New User

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    Homophobic jokes? How original. Grow up kid.

    Also, FTFY
  10. Sniper Pro

    Sniper Pro FirePowered Head Admin Partner Community

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    You're a sad person. Willing to throw away your trading reputation just for some extra profit on one hat and then you come here to troll on your SteamRep report. What a show of character. I'll just let the admins handle it from here, no reason to respond to anymore of your childish nonsense.
  11. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Caution on SteamRep

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    You want my honest opinion?

    Venom does NOT deserve the treatment he is getting.

    This is a free market, and the trade was not a violation of trust (like paypal chargebacks or quickswitches). The "victim" wanted the items offered to him, and he got exactly what he asked for. His ignorance does not make Venom culpable. At the worst, it was a lowball. At best, it was price speculation. The "victim" simply has a bad case of buyer's remorse. Just cause he feels cheated, should we go ban the trader for making an intelligent trade? No.
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  12. [PPM]TheVenomWithin

    [PPM]TheVenomWithin New User

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    Couldn't have put it better myself. I understand my rep is ruined and i'm now considered one of the most hated people in the community, however, tbh I don't regret it. I gave him an offer, and he took it. He was happy with what was given to him until all of you started bashing him making me out as a bad guy. It's true he could have easily gotten more out of it now that everyone has let us both know the true value of it, but you must understand. It's not like I gave him a bud or a few. I gave him at least 15 buds worth of items in mixed. He spent a key, if not a few keys max. The unboxer made profit, I made profit. I rest my case. This will be my last post on this report till this gets closed.
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  13. Sniper Pro

    Sniper Pro FirePowered Head Admin Partner Community

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    Oh, that's cute how you got your friend with a caution tag for the same offense to come and fight for you. I'm perfectly happy with you not posting anymore, I'm bored of responding to your nonsensical posts. We'll see what the admins think, neither of our opinions really matter at this point.
  14. [PPM]TheVenomWithin

    [PPM]TheVenomWithin New User

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    Had to make an exception here. If you had done your research, you'd have realized he added me a few days AFTER this report was created. And no I didn't get him to "fight" for me. He posted here willingly before he added me. And yes, I suppose my opinion here doesn't matter, and neither does yours. we'll see how this goes down whenever they get to it.
  15. Marcus Aurelius

    Marcus Aurelius Caution on SteamRep

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    It's the "victim's" own damn fault he got sharked. Big difference between sharking and scamming, where even the best traders can get scammed. This case is pretty much closed, SteamRep doesn't mark for sharking. You've wasted your time playing good-guy and harassing people who had better luck in finding good deals.
  16. Lava

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    @Sniper Pro

    I'm sorry, but unfortunately we don't enforce prices at SteamRep, and we don't accept sharking reports. Because the items were traded as agreed, however one-sided, there is no breach of trade agreement, and therefore no scam occurred. As such, I am archiving this report.

    We recommend you report this to other communities which accept sharking reports.