Accepted Report: 76561198116237464 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulent behavior
Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

Accused profile: 76561198116237464

Victim profile: 76561198050838867

What happened? Description:

Badgered constan;y for trades only to try a middleman attack once items were agreed on (7 ref for a kill streak spycicle, small stuff, don't know why they bothered, maybe just for fun?). Either way they claimed they needed a valve employee to check the trade and that they would "pay for the verification", I asked for the profile and they linked me this https://steamcommunity.com/id/-JoeLudwig- Have fun with that.​

Provide Evidence:

Screenshots of chat, that with the chat log and th profiles should be sufficient.​

[17:16]
An Ordinary Bartender:
hello
you there?

[17:19]
Asgar16926:
ttyl

[17:19]
An Ordinary Bartender:
im just wondering if some of your tf2 items is up for trade
i have good offer for it

[17:19]
Asgar16926:
they might be

[17:19]
An Ordinary Bartender:
check my items here
Steam Community :: An Ordinary Bartender :: Item Inventory
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Narcifiend/inventory/

tell me what items do you prefer

[17:20]
Asgar16926:
i saw you have quite an inventory. i could always use some of the stranges i'm missing haha

[17:20]
An Ordinary Bartender:
here
Steam Community :: An Ordinary Bartender :: Item Inventory
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Narcifiend/inventory/

so that we can negotiate
so you seen my items?

[17:22]
Asgar16926:
not all of them, but you sure have a lot

[17:22]
An Ordinary Bartender:
yeah i am collector
what you offer on me?

[17:23]
Asgar16926:
idk, i thought you were looking for something in particular?

[17:23]
An Ordinary Bartender:
do you knowq the stable price of your items?

[17:26]
Asgar16926:
it's been a while since i checked

[17:29]
An Ordinary Bartender:
if you dont mind can i recommend you a site that you can able to check\

[17:42]
An Ordinary Bartender:
is that okay to you?
so matE?

[18:32]
An Ordinary Bartender:
hello?

[18:32]
Asgar16926:
i said ttyl earlier, i don't have time rn

[18:33]
An Ordinary Bartender:
this is quickly
i will recommend you a site that you can able to check the stable price of your items
is that okay to you/

[18:33]
Asgar16926:
is it backpack.tf?

[18:33]
An Ordinary Bartender:
?
i dont use that one
i use this site here
CS:GO Dota 2 H1z1 TF Trading bot
csgotradeskins the most advanced steam skin trade bot,lowest commission of all sites.
https://csgoitemswap.com

[18:34]
Asgar16926:
ah ok, i didn't know they did tf2 as well

[18:34]
An Ordinary Bartender:
tell me when you done log-in and tell me the stable price of your items
btw mate
do you have mobile authenticator?
hello?
you there?

[19:05]
An Ordinary Bartender:
hello

[19:05]
Asgar16926:
i told you i don't have time right now

[19:05]
An Ordinary Bartender:
okay

[19:05]
Asgar16926:
be patient or leave, your choice

[19:10]
An Ordinary Bartender:
okay
i wait it

[20:28]
An Ordinary Bartender:
your second?

[21:52]
An Ordinary Bartender:
still busy?
hey
you still busy?

[21:58]
Asgar16926:
ok

[21:58]
An Ordinary Bartender:
you ain't busy now?

[21:59]
Asgar16926:
man i had someone over, i can't just trade while they're here
i'll go to the site you linked now

[21:59]
An Ordinary Bartender:
alright

[21:59]
Asgar16926:
was there anything you wanted in particular?

[22:00]
An Ordinary Bartender:
your Taunt: The High Five!
check my items here
Steam Community :: An Ordinary Bartender :: Item Inventory
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Narcifiend/inventory/

so that we can negotaite
okay?

[22:01]
Asgar16926:
i seee
you're missing that one? it's great fun

[22:02]
An Ordinary Bartender:
did you seen my items?

[22:02]
Asgar16926:
yes

[22:03]
An Ordinary Bartender:
so what is your offer?

[22:03]
Asgar16926:
csgoitemswap won't sign me in

[22:03]
An Ordinary Bartender:
wait
let me try
just tell me your offer
okay?

[22:03]
Asgar16926:
oof... idk if i want to trade the high five, it's the best taunt there is imo
there's always the old "explode on contact" joke

[22:04]
An Ordinary Bartender:
oh.. mate i can't log-in too
maybe it's maintenance

[22:05]
Asgar16926:
well, that's clearly server side then

[22:05]
An Ordinary Bartender:
so what is you offer?

[22:06]
Asgar16926:
i'm sorry to have you wait so long for me to decline, but i want to keep the high five

[22:07]
An Ordinary Bartender:
how about this
Killstreak Spy-cicle

[22:07]
Asgar16926:
hm yeah maybe

[22:07]
An Ordinary Bartender:
okay
so what is your offer?
to me?
hello?

[22:11]
Asgar16926:
ok

[22:11]
An Ordinary Bartender:
you decide your offer?

[22:11]
Asgar16926:
you can have it for 7 ref if you want

[22:12]
An Ordinary Bartender:
you want purekys?

[22:12]
Asgar16926:
purekys?

[22:12]
An Ordinary Bartender:
purekeys

[22:13]
Asgar16926:
oh right

[22:13]
An Ordinary Bartender:
i will offer it 1 key?
deal?

[22:13]
Asgar16926:
well keys are worth way more than refined metal right now, the killstreak spycicle is only worth 7.5 ref

[22:14]
An Ordinary Bartender:
you want 1 keys?
1 key i mean

[22:15]
Asgar16926:
for the sake of fairness, just pay 7 refined metal, if i made you pay a key I would basically be scamming you
keys are supposed to be worth more than 40 ref right now

[22:15]
An Ordinary Bartender:
i will offer it 7 ref?
right?

[22:15]
Asgar16926:
yes

[22:15]
An Ordinary Bartender:
alright
send me your trade offer link
so that i will be the one can send you an offer
okay?

[22:16]
Asgar16926:
Trade Offer URL:
https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=90573139&token=R7WMXj1j

[22:16]
An Ordinary Bartender:
alright
before i will send you my offer
can i ask something?

[22:16]
Asgar16926:
sure

[22:16]
An Ordinary Bartender:
where and how did you get your tf2 items?

[22:17]
Asgar16926:
a few different places

[22:17]
An Ordinary Bartender:
because i just want to make sure that i am safe with you here since i have bad experience on trading
my last traded i was f✿✿✿ed up i lost my investment worth of $3,500 and get locked my account such a bad experience happend to me before

[22:18]
Asgar16926:
playing the game obviously, but also trade servers, scrap bots, that raffle site where people raffled off tf2 items, fun stuff

[22:18]
An Ordinary Bartender:
as you can see i have a lot of items

[22:18]
Asgar16926:
I did get scammed out of my fez once
that hurt

[22:18]
An Ordinary Bartender:
if you dont mind can we go both undergo items verification by steam support valve just to have our safety trade
im willing to cover the fees for out safety
is that okay to you?

[22:19]
Asgar16926:
i'm not sure what you are referring to

[22:19]
An Ordinary Bartender:
im so sorry mate
i hope you understand me here
since i have bad experience on trade
i hope you really appriciate me here

[22:20]
Asgar16926:
what exactly are you suggesting?

[22:21]
An Ordinary Bartender:
im going to invite steam official from steam support to check both of our items
is that okay to you?

[22:22]
Asgar16926:
i'll be frank, this sounds like a scam

[22:22]
An Ordinary Bartender:
what do you mean?
scam?
as you can see i have alot of items
no need to scam you here

[22:22]
Asgar16926:
there is no steam service for verifying trades

[22:22]
An Ordinary Bartender:
there is

[22:23]
Asgar16926:
there is the mobile app
but not some official who looks at our items to verify it's what we said we were trading
what would they even check? that i sent you the right spycicle? that you sent 7 refined metal?

[22:24]
An Ordinary Bartender:
depends
so mate?
im going to hire it now?

[22:26]
Asgar16926:
wait
what is the account of the person you're hiring

[22:27]
An Ordinary Bartender:
okay wait
here mate
Steam Community :: Joe Ludwig
About me! Programmer Hi, I'm Joe Ludwig, nice to meet you! Joe joined Valve as a programmer in 2009 and has spent his time working on item back ends, trading systems, virtual reality, and hats. These days he is helping out with the software side of Valve's hardware effort. Though he started his game industry career at Sierra in 1998, most
https://steamcommunity.com/id/-JoeLudwig-

and tell me when you added him alreadu
already
okay?

[22:33]
Asgar16926:
sigh...
what you are doing here is a middle man attack
you want me to give him the item and then it will be gone

[22:33]
An Ordinary Bartender:
no

[22:34]
Asgar16926:
idk why you're even bothering with something as small as a kill streak spycicle but i'm sure
the account you sent me is a fake
he doesn't have the steam employee badge, and steam employees don't provide this kind of service

[22:35]
An Ordinary Bartender:
so?

[22:35]
Asgar16926:
so you are obviously trying to scam me, for whatever reason

[22:36]
An Ordinary Bartender:
do you think i am scamming you here
your backpack is on $13
why shoud i scam you?

[22:37]
Asgar16926:
Yeah why exactly, good question
is this just fun to you?

[22:39]
An Ordinary Bartender:
if you dont trust me
you can go now

I did not go ahead with the trade as it seemed too fishy. They did not claim to be a valve employee, only that this other account they linked me was a valve employee.