Accepted Report: 76561198117208572 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Item Fraud] Quick-switch trade scam or attempt
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561198117208572

Victim profile: 76561198132213819

What happened? Description:

He claimed to be an Admin of Hellcase and wanted me to promote the website by adding the name Hellcase.com to my name. He would then upgrade my knife and gloves for doing this for 4 months. But before he can do that I would need to send him my knife and gloves, then I would have to wait 30-45 min until I would revise a tradeoffer with the items I wanted. Also he is the admin of the Hellcase steamgroup where some of the mods in there are banned.
The steamgroup:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/HellcaseHub​

Provide Evidence:

[14:22]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
hey, why did you add me ?

[15:07]
rosche:
Hey, how’s it going

[15:08]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok, I guess
so, why did you add me?

[15:22]
rosche:
Hey, would you be interested in promoting hellcase

[15:22]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
idk
what would I get from it
?

[15:25]
rosche:
Ok, well here’s the basis, all you got to do is add hellcase to your name and advertise us in game like a walking billboard, as a reward we’ll give you daily rewards on the site and you get the optional chance to upgrade for example what’s your favorite knife in the game

[15:28]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok, doesn´t sound bad. But first of all how can I trust you about this, because you are no mod or admin in the steam group

[15:31]
rosche:
Okay go to the steam group
Click members
You’ll see there’s two admins in the group and ones named rosche horne right?

[15:31]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
yeah, but not online for 379 days

[15:32]
rosche:
Add that account

[15:32]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok

[15:33]
rosche:
Check your friends list
Surprise xD

[15:33]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
xD
well
but can I ask you smt ?

[15:33]
rosche:
What’s up

[15:33]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
why are you not using your main acc ?

[15:34]
rosche:
Steam community banned all of our mains for having direct affiliation with a gambling site

[15:34]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok, understandable
about the offer you gave me, yeah I guess I would promote you

[15:35]
rosche:
What’s your favorite knife in the game

[15:35]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
talon vanilla
why ?
is that ok with the name and the profile ?

[15:37]
rosche:
If you kept hellcase in your name for 2 months we’d upgrade your knife to a talon vanilla, 3 months for a st vanilla talon, depending on the price correlates to how long you keep the name, could even do it today if you swore to keep the name
Name looks sexy btw just make the H capital

[15:38]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I can swore to keep the name for ever if you want

[15:39]
rosche:
Well which talon do you want
Stattrak or non stattrak

[15:39]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
non stattrak

[15:39]
rosche:
Just remember the price of an item you want is what determines the time period
Like what’s your favorite gloves idk

[15:40]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I´m fine with the gloves I have

[15:40]
rosche:
No I’m just trying to give an example that’s all
I think you got the idea tho

[15:40]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I also like the hand wraps leather
but with the time period of keeping the name, like I said I can keep it for ever

[15:41]
rosche:
If you kept hellcase in your name for 2 months we’d upgrade your gloves to hand wraps leather mw, 4 months for that and the non stattrak talon etc
So yeah that’s basically it
Whatever you want let me know but we have a limit of 6 months

[15:42]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok, sounds fair
I will keep the name
can you do me a favour and stay in my friendslist with bouth accounts
And you offer sounds very fair, i will promote the website in every game
your*

[15:44]
rosche:
Yeah for sure
I don’t care tbh
So which items you want
You want just the talon, just the gloves or both
And do you want the talon stattrak or non stattrak

[15:45]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I would like to have bouth items and the non stattrak

[15:46]
rosche:
Do you swear to keep hellcase in your name for 4 months

[15:46]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I do

[15:48]
rosche:
Okay first let’s set some ground rules, under no condition shall you harm or diss the name of our site, your job is to solely promote us, keep in mind this knife and gloves will replace yours and have no speci floats or patterns, if you lose the knife or gloves we give you, we are not liable for replacing them, you can change your name as long as hellcase stays in your name for the full 4 months
If you have any questions lmk also do you agree to the terms

[15:49]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok
I will accept the trade if you put the knife and glove from you and from me in it

[15:51]
rosche:
I didn’t understand that statement also do you agree to the terms I said

[15:51]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
yeah, I agree to the terms you said

[15:51]
rosche:
Ok, well let me know when you want to do this and if you have any questions make sure to ask

[15:53]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
yes, I want to promote you website and I will keep
{LINK ENTFERNT}
in my name for the 4 mounths
months*

[15:55]
rosche:
Okay keep in mind you would have to be comfortable with this as you would have to transfer your item, we’d upgrade it, takes 30-45 min max to do, if you’re not online when the gloves and knife are sent you’ll have 15 days to accept it, your 4 months starts when you receive the talon and hand wraps, if you have any questions make sure to ask
Also asking one more time, non stattrak talon vanilla and hand wraps leather minimal wear right?

[15:57]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
If we trade, put your items and mine in the same tradeoffer. And like I said, non stattrak talon and hand wraps leather, condition MW is fine.

[15:59]
rosche:
Only way we could do 1:1 is if we shut down the site temporarily which wouldn’t be fair to our users or is cheap, the problem is if I just took either of the items out of the site it would still be registered in our item database basically meaning someone could still win the item while it was out of the site
Overall tho it’ll take 30-45 min

[16:00]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
why would you need to shut down the website for a trade, that makes no sense to me

[16:00]
rosche:
Well see look here’s the problem
Let’s say I just took the talon out of the site, the main problem with that is it would still be registered in our item database, in order sense that means someone could still win that item on the site, although it’s unlikely but if it happened it would cause a s✿✿✿ show

[16:02]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
can´t you just put it in my hellcase inv so I can withdraw it ?

[16:02]
rosche:
We can’t as the only way we could do that is if you won the item in a case and we aren’t legally allowed to rig any case

[16:04]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I don´t know how to do it, but I´m not going to give you my items without a 1:1 trade

[16:05]
rosche:
Alrighty, well unfortunately we’re not gonna shut down our site for 1 person
Also no admin on our sites gonna betray a user who’s going to be advertising our site
I’d just lose my job and tarnish our sites reputation if I did
Also by giving you the talon and gloves, when people see those items and the name, their going to be naturally enticed in checking out the site

[16:07]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
mby you just take the 30-45 min to transfer me the items and after it I´m willing to trade over mine

[16:08]
rosche:
I just told you the only way we could do 1:1 is if we shut down the site temporarily
Which would cost a f✿✿✿ Ton to do for one person

[16:08]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
this is not a 1:1 what I was talking about

[16:08]
rosche:
Considering we’d be stopping our daily revenue from the users who use our site
For one person
M8 you do realize we have to set a transfer for your items, put you in our promotional database have your items checked and after that have the items you want transferred to you
That’s why it takes 30-45 min

[16:10]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok, what do I have to do now

[16:11]
rosche:
You’d have to transfer your item to either me or one of our staff members
Also will you be on in 45 min

[16:12]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I don´t have any trust in this

[16:12]
rosche:
Why would we scam you
You do realize you’d be promoting our site for 4 months

[16:12]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
idk, I already got scamed ofthen
often*

[16:12]
rosche:
By telling people you got these high tier items from hellcase which you did, you’d be attracting loads of users to our site
Look I’m sorry that you’ve gotten scammed before, that sucks honestly but you got to understand we don’t gain much by scamming you as I’d lose my job and destroy our sites reputation
And gambling sites are built on reputation
Considering csgolotto was bigger than us and one of their owners rigged the site for his videos and they got sued

[16:13]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
can you give me any prove that you are not going to scam me ?

[16:14]
rosche:
I mean you thought I was fake as I wasn’t even an admin in their steam group
Which I proved otherwise lol
On top of that I have no reason to as scamming you would just screw me over in the long run
Literally all I need is a little faith and 45 min

[16:20]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
the point is that I got scamed for 5000$, 3 years ago. That is why I have a lot of fear trusting this

[16:21]
rosche:
Damn I’m sorry to hear that
But why would I do that to you when in the long run our site would benefit more

[16:21]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
there would be a way where I would trust you
if you would add something to my hellcase acc
I mean on the website

[16:22]
rosche:
Only the owner does and we only add money for sponsorships
You’d need 30k subs and 5k views per vid

[16:22]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I mean even 0,01 $ would prove it to me

[16:22]
rosche:
Also if I wasn’t affiliated with hellcase why would I manage their steam group
On top of that if I was scamming why would I have over 4K trades and a clean reputation
Zenix that’s not under my jurisdiction as you need a sponsorship for that
Also how did you get scammed for 5 grand

[16:26]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
guy bought my inv I had with a bank transfer. Yeah, a day after it he bassicly called the bank and said that it was a wrong money transfer
long story short

[16:27]
rosche:
Damnnn
I’m sorry man
Look I’d never cause that pain to anyone, you guys the reason our site is successful
Are the*

[16:28]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I think now you get it why I´m not rly going for something like this :/

[16:29]
rosche:
I get it
I just want you to understand our perspective
Why would we scam you

[16:29]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
so, if there would be any other way to do this, I would be glad to hear

[16:34]
rosche:
I’ll see if there’s anything I can do and let you know
Sound good

[16:34]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
ok, thx

[16:35]
rosche:
No problem man
I’ll do the best I can as honestly I understand where you’re coming from

[16:35]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
thx, it´s nice to hear that you get me
I will still keep the name of the website in my profile

[17:33]
rosche:
Yeah no you set your profile up beautifully

[17:34]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
<3

[17:34]
rosche:
Also do you have discord

[17:34]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
no, not using it
I have an TS server

[17:42]
rosche:
Do you have a phone number xD

[17:43]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
yeah, but I´m not going to give it away

[17:58]
rosche:
Fair enough

[17:58]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
I downloaded Discord

[18:58]
rosche:
Why’d you take hellcase out of your name

[19:00]
ZΞNIX『戰士』:
need to check something, will put it back there later

[19:00]
rosche:
That’s fine
Look if you ever have a question feel free to ask
Also what’s your discord
Any question you have about the site I guarantee you I’d be able to answer
So feel free to ask anything