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Accepted Report: 76561198118580236 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

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  1. Pater Majkel

    Pater Majkel New User

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    Steam:
    STEAM_0:1:51808671
    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Rep Fraud] Impersonation with intent to defraud
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198118580236

    Victim profile: 76561198063883071

    What happened? Description:
    The user was trying to impersonate a reliable trader with his nickname and linked to his backpack.tf profile on his steam profile and in the chat with me. He was trying to make me send my unusual hat to a "bitskins bot" to check whether or not it was marketable. At all times he was telling me that "his" reputation is at risk and he wouldn't dare to scam me.​

    Provide Evidence:
    Screenshots from 1 to 10 show the conversation between me and Spacehehe impostor. Screen 11 show his profile at the time of trading. Screens 12 and 13 show the trade offers that I have been sent throught the whole ordeal. At the bottom of 13th screen is what the real trade offer from bitskins looks like and at the top is his.

    The bot account info:
    steamID: STEAM_0:1:545719601
    steamID3: [U:1:1091439203]
    steamID64 (Dec): 76561199051704931
    steamID64 (Hex): 1100001410e0a63
    customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/BITSKINSBOT1704
    profile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199051704931
    profile state Public
    profile created April 26th, 2020
    name BitSkins #1704 [352]
    real name BitSkins, Inc.
    location Not set​

    [Yesterday, 11:57 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Hello there!

    [Yesterday, 1:09 PM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    Hello is your unusual still for sale,

    [Yesterday, 2:48 PM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Yes! Yes it is

    Monday, May 3, 2021

    [2:05 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    cool how much are you selling it for in pure?

    [2:13 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I am selling it for 21 keys. I don't really know what does selling in pure mean as I haven't really been trading for a past few years, so my vocabulary has started to deminish,

    [2:13 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah pure is another term for mann co keys my bad haha

    [2:14 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    oh. Good to know. A man learns something new every day!

    [2:14 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok cool I want to buy your unusual but I want to make sure that it's marketable in a trading site, do you know about bitskins?

    [2:15 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    not really, no

    [2:15 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    oh okay, bitskins is a big trading site for tf2 traders and I want to check if your unusual is marketable there first before we trade, is that fine with you?
    dont get me wrong though im not going to buy your unusual from the site or with real money, we will trade in steam and im paying 21 keys for it

    [2:17 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I am really sorry, but I don't know this site, and I don't know if I can trust it. There are numerous forum posts that it could be shady

    [2:19 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah i understand you're cautious about 3rd party sites and scams out there. but please do check my backpack so you'll know i have the keys for your unusual and im not trying to take you to some fake site or scam you here. im not going to risk my backpack just to do useless stuff like that plus i have a reputation to maintain here, so i hope you understand me
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO's TF2 Backpack
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO has about items in their TF2
    backpack, with an estimated value of 1,416,779.14 ref, 27,245.75 keys, $49587.27.
    View Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO's backpack on backpack.tf.

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198105071091

    [2:21 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I do understand but for the past few days the only offers I got were scam attempts, so BP really broke my trust. I've got an idea. We could make a trade - 21 keys for the hat, and if it is unlistable, we would just trade the things back.

    [2:21 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    I can't do that, if you can't trust me then I can

    [2:21 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I really don't know if there is a better way to do this, but then you would have to trust me

    [2:21 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    I can't as well, it's too risky
    I'm not here to scam i'm here to trade with you. if you check my backpack and check my bp trust there you'll see im not here to scam. i dont have time for scams

    [2:24 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Can you tell me how does this site work? Do I just log in and check wether the item is listable or do I have to actually list it?

    [2:24 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    well basically i just wanted to see your unusual listed on the site first so i will know its marketable because im planning to sell the unusual there after we trade in steam, is that ok with you?
    ok so can you go to bitskins .com or google it to make sure, then sign in your steam there. tell me when you're done so i can help you out ok
    also dont go to the other bitskins that dont have .com with it because those are fake sites and always double check the spelling of bitskins ok. just letting you know

    [2:31 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    It does give me an option to list the item but the next thing that it wants me to do is to send the item to them
    Do you know how long does it take to get them back from the site?
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....440/E42BF281254456ED92544E7628D4AE14E55CAAE0/

    [2:32 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah and wait i dont want you to list it for sale because im not buying your unusual from the site. i only want you to list it as marketable
    can i show you what i mean about listing it as markteable so we can continue with our trade?
    marketable*

    [2:33 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Yes please

    [2:33 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok according to your screenshot, you're at the Sell Items page correct?
    refresh the page first

    [2:33 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    done so

    [2:33 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok so now i'll show you how the site works when you'll list an item as marketable so you'll know it's safe and you can trust it later on ok
    so first click the CUSTOM button at the Pricing section
    and then choose a cheap item from your inventory to use for testing the site, any cheap item ok
    after that the site will ask you to change the price so put 999 or any high price for it
    tell me when that's all done because i need to explain something to you afterwards ok

    [2:35 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Ok, so I've added a mann co. crate for $999

    [2:35 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok after that you'll see the green "Send me trade offer" button at the right side of the page
    but i dont want you to click that button ok
    just ignore that button please, don't press that
    because if you will press that, i wont be able to check if your item is marketable there or not
    you get me?

    [2:36 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    good, I'am very good at ignoring things :D

    [2:36 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    lol xd
    yeah ok so what's the cheap item you've chosen so i can check it on the site as well
    you can see the name of the item there i think

    [2:37 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    it's Mann Co. Supply Crate Series #75

    [2:38 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok so now you just need to wait for your item to reach the Sales queue box under the green button that shows your item like this "Mann Co. Supply Crate Series #75 @ $999"
    so if you see your item at the Sales queue then you will wait for the site to send you an offer automatically for the item you're listing as marketable
    so if you see your item's name at the Sales queue then go check your steam trade offers, see if the site has sent any
    you get me?
    do you see the crate at the Sales queue?

    [2:39 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....422/573547183CD0E6A440BE59619F710EEB2B901F05/

    [2:39 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah ok go ahead and accept the offer from the site so you'll know how it works and how you'll get your item back from it
    go ahead bro
    so are you done trading with the site?

    [2:42 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I get constant errors in my steam app. Give me some more time
    I get this message while literally being in the steam app
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....472/BA8CF39920173EDA705C6544BFD6F502F6BA9796/

    [2:44 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah then click that 3 horizontal lines at the top left
    and then go to confirmations
    from there you have to confirm the trade

    [2:45 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yeah, finally got a nitification about trade to confirm
    notification*

    [2:45 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    alright, so you did the trade with the site?

    [2:45 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yes

    [2:45 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok so after trading with the site, the site will then send you an offer back with your item in the trade
    so you can get your item back whenever you want or need it back
    so like after trading with the site, keep checking your steam trade offers often ok
    you get me?

    [2:46 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yeah
    it's still not listed on the site, though
    oh

    [2:46 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah you're not going to check it at the For sales listings since you're not listing it as for sale, only as marketable
    so did you get an offer back from the site to retrieve it?

    [2:47 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yeah
    I have it back

    [2:47 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah ok go get your item back from the site then

    [2:47 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    so now I do understand what you meant

    [2:47 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    and after that go back to the site and remove your item from the Sales queue by pressing the X button next to it

    [2:47 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    all done now

    [2:48 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    alright removed from the Sales queue as well?

    [2:48 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yes

    [2:48 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ok cool
    ok so now can you do the same thing with your unusual so i can check that it's marketable here? then we'll head back to steam and trade afterwards
    just make sure to set the price to $999 or any high price for it ok
    and remember dont press the "Send me trade offer" button because i wont be able to check if it's marketable there or not
    are you fine with all that?

    [2:49 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yeah

    [2:49 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    alright i appreciate it, let me know when you're done listing it so i'll go and check it then ok

    [2:49 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I'am going to make it $150 so bots would make the trade

    [2:49 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah alright
    should i check it now or not yet?

    [2:51 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I am checking whether offer id is correct and if it indeed is the same bot as listed on site

    [2:51 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    offer id? are you listing it for sale? dont press the "Send me trade offer" button because i cant check if it's marketable there
    just do the same steps you did earlier with you cheap item so you're able to list it as marketable
    because bitskins uses different bots whether you're listing it as for sale or marketable. the site uses official bots when you're listing it officially for sale. and they use normal bots if you're only prechecking it or listing it as marketable thats why i showed you the difference on how it works
    did you list it for sale?
    hello?

    [2:55 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I think I've lost you there
    It is in the queue under send me a trade offer button

    [2:55 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah did you press the green "Send me trade offer" i told you not to press?
    dont press that because im not buying your unusual here on the site

    [2:56 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Earlier yes, now we are back to the square one

    [2:56 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    we will trade in steam not here
    right if you did decline the offer from the site or any offer they've sent you before relisting it
    or it might spam you offers

    [2:57 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    it just said that I've run out of time and they declined offer themselves

    [2:57 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    alright so you dont have any offers from the site anymore?

    [2:57 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    yes

    [2:57 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    okay do you remember the steps you did earlier to list it as marketable. just place it at the sales queue and wait for your unusual to show up there in this form
    "Unusual @ $999"
    because the Sales queue indicates that the site has detected your item to list it as marketable. that's the important part
    do you see your unusual at the Sales queue

    [2:59 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    I am gonna make myself sure if I am in the right place
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....134/434470EA0D8DDF2785C97776BFB2DE3BB1EFF265/

    [2:59 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah the Sales queue shows your unusual there "Unusual Virus Doctor @ $150.49"
    so that means it's been detected by the site to list it as marketable
    you remember the steps after it detects your item right?
    so if your item reaches the Sales queue so what you wanna do now is manually check your steam offers and check if the site has sent one to list it as marketable
    same thing you did earlier with your cheap item if you remember that

    [3:01 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....891/15C9106FFD34BFDE5584FD3963E62CF6C835C432/

    [3:01 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    yeah and you remember how it sends the item back to you once you've listed it as marketable right
    just keep a check on your steam offers often
    let me know when you're done listing it up on the site so i'll go and check it then alright

    [3:02 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    maybe I am somewhat drunk, but I am not that ✿✿✿✿✿✿ed to fall for it

    [3:02 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    ?

    [3:02 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    The bot doesn't have any signs that it is from their site
    doesn't even say

    [3:03 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    did you even read what i said about site using official bots and normal bots
    lmao
    because bitskins uses different bots whether you're listing it as for sale or marketable. the site uses official bots when you're listing it officially for sale. and they use normal bots if you're only prechecking it or listing it as marketable thats why i showed you the difference on how it works
    you think id put my whole trading career and my whole backpack at risk just to scam your 20 key unusual
    why the hell would i do that just to scam you
    ask first before you accuse, it aint cool
    if i even try to scam you here, you can record our whole conversation and file a report against me on steam. when that report gets resolved i'll lose all my s✿✿✿ and that aint worth scamming your unusual lmao

    [3:04 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    For you 20 key hat may be worth little to nothing but for me it is worth about half of my inventory
    I am not here to report anyone

    [3:05 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    i never said that

    [3:05 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Just need keys to buy myself some games on steam

    [3:05 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    what i was saying is i wouldnt risk my backpack just to scam your unusual. my trading career my investments i amde here
    yeah and im here to trade with you not scam. i make more money in doing honest trades than to scam
    why would i even scam
    you've checked my backpack havent you
    i have almost $50k backpack and that's from all my hard work on trading and investing money. why would i even throw all that away just to scam you here
    i showed you how the site works when you'll list something as marketable so you would understand the difference. i didnt make you list your unusual straight away
    if i wanted to scam you i wouldve taken you to a fake site and hijack your account instead but that's not what im here for, im here to trade with you lol

    [3:07 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    Okay mate, just checked and backpack link doesn't even link to your steamid
    good one lad

    [3:07 AM]
    Spacehehe Trading TF2/CSGO:
    go f✿✿✿ yourself with your s✿✿✿ unusual f✿✿✿✿✿ LMFAOOO

    [3:07 AM]
    Pater Majkel:
    xD
    :*

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  2. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    You do realize this user is already banned/tagged here right? Did you not see that prior to talking to them?
  3. Pater Majkel

    Pater Majkel New User

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    I really didn't. As I've written in the first screen, I haven't been trading in tf2 for a few years and it didn't occure to me to check his steamrep right away. Now it probably will be the first thing I do whenever someone adds me.
  4. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Full screenshot of that trade offer again - this time thru web browser, hover mouse pointer over users name(bots name) so I can see the steam URL at the bottom.
    FULL screen - do not edit/crop in any way.
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    Pater Majkel New User

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    Here they are:

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  6. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    STEAM_0:1:34690691
    | steamname: BitSkins #0815 [394]
    | steam3ID: [U:1:1091439203]
    | steamID32: STEAM_0:1:545719601
    | steamID64: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199051704931
    | customURL: https://steamcommunity.com/id/BITSKINSBOT0815
    | steamrep: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561199051704931

    Thanks will review again shortly - pay close attention to the SR profile block above - that is how you make one if you must do so again in the future but make sure you also check users out right before you accept a friend request or start talking to them to see any history..even a google search of their ID64 would have brought you here.
  7. Pater Majkel

    Pater Majkel New User

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    Steam:
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    Will do! Thank you for the help and for your service!
  8. Horse

    Horse Administrator SteamRep Admin

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    Your report was accepted and the accused was banned. Feel free to report a violation via their Steam profile.

    In order to do that, you have to:
    1. Visit the accuseds profile
    2. Click MORE drop-down located at the top right of the page
    3. Choose REPORT VIOLATION
    4. Select the violation, then describe it and provide the evidence
    5. Click SUBMIT REPORT

    Click here to view an animated gif that shows how to report a violation.
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