Under Investigation Report: 76561198119906369 - ([CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items)

Scam Report

Report Type: [Money] PayPal scam or scam attempt
Virtual item type involved: [CSGO] Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Items

Accused profile: 76561198119906369

Victim profile: 76561198080796147

What happened? Description:

The usually scam happened. Guy adds me with a great profile (expensive items, many screenshots, rep, friends, games and high steam level). We discuss a price for my butterfly knife then I tell him to go first. He proceeded to convince me to go first - he sounded quite mature and experienced. I was quite impressed and convinced.​

Provide Evidence:

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Entire chat: http://shrib.com/jxvGwVQc
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asshat: hey torg
torg: yo
asshat: i have a private profile?
torg: not anymore
torg: oh s✿✿✿ you got a studlike backpack
torg: nice
asshat: yea idk, i have been glitching all day
torg: ok
asshat: having trouble looking at ppls inv
torg: same
asshat: oh yea, good, not just me
torg: So what do you have in mind
asshat: i wanted to buy your bfk stat trak
torg: ok
asshat: ould i buy for like 630 usd?
asshat: could*
asshat: i think thats fair
torg: well I was just offered 670
asshat: but thats in items correct?
torg: no
asshat: or was that paypal too
torg: paypal
torg: and 290 keys which is 725$
torg: but Im not going to highball the s✿✿✿ out of you I want a fair deal
asshat: can u open up csgo today?
torg: if you are inspecting it, can you please tell me what the pattern is lol
asshat: i keep lagging out
torg: ya
asshat: u can?
asshat: im having trouble
torg: what do you mean
asshat: on and off
asshat: Failed to load the launcher (dlopen(bin/launcher.dylib, 2): image not found)
torg: oh
torg: ive seen that before
asshat: u have SS
asshat: of ur knife
torg: yeah
asshat: i can help
torg: 2 on my profile
asshat: next time
asshat: when u take SS
asshat: dont take in dark
torg: oh
torg: ok
asshat: just makes knife look less appealing
asshat: and harder to see
torg: So you want me to take SS right no
asshat: yea, it has an angel mirrored, not FULL tho
asshat: kinda looks like getrights knife
asshat: (old knife) idk what he has now
asshat: can i see ur bayo
asshat: ss
asshat: can u upload?
torg: yeah
asshat: huh?
asshat: did u upload, if so just link me!
torg: i will
asshat: yea im reading discussions
asshat: servers on csgo
asshat: going down rn
torg: what do you mean
asshat: valve working on servers probably
torg: oh
torg: if I just screenshot me inspecting it is that ok
asshat: thats fine
asshat: yo bro u still here?
torg: ya
asshat: aight so i full inspected your stat bfk mw, and im down to pay 660 usd
asshat: u want to sell for that price?
torg: 670
asshat: hmm alright i can do 670
asshat: only 10 dollars difference
torg: ok but you are going first
torg: and sending as friend/family
asshat: well i send as friends and family with any note u want
torg: ok
asshat: and will never refund
torg: the note must be something obnoxious and imature
asshat: but i wont go first for security issues
torg: like poopy peepee penis
torg: oh no
asshat: yo bro u kidding
asshat: u must not be familiar with paypal huh
torg: I am
asshat: note has to be saying u authorize transaction
asshat: and that u forfeit right to refund
asshat: or else a scammer can go first
asshat: and still refund
asshat: u know that right?
torg: yup
torg: I was just forgetting and being dumb
asshat: so whats up with the pee poo bs
asshat: im being serious
torg: lol
torg: Kk serious
asshat: and will not f✿✿✿ around
asshat: with 10 year olds
torg: this is a lot of money
asshat: yea
asshat: and u saying crap
asshat: like pee poo
asshat: wtf....
torg: What do you expect from a 10 year old
asshat: i am serious with all transactions
torg: Yeah, same with me.
asshat: and if u want to get scammed like f✿✿✿s
asshat: like frederrick
asshat: or what not
asshat: feel freee
torg: ?
asshat: they can go first
asshat: but will fck u over
torg: I am not going first
asshat: ive been in this community for paypal
asshat: for a while
asshat: i know scammers
asshat: like frederickk
asshat: who scam ppl
torg: Yeah I am not one
torg: I can do anything you want me to
torg: except go first
asshat: u are not even famous so yea
asshat: how do i know
asshat: u wont just take money
asshat: and run??
torg: Why are you famous?
asshat: im not famous
torg: we can use a middle man
asshat: but more well known
asshat: cus i buy and sell knives
asshat: for profit
asshat: look in my screenshots
asshat: and inventory
asshat: of all knives i bought
asshat: and sold
torg: I see that
torg: I trust you, and it doesn't seem like you trust me.
torg: How can I make you trust me
torg: I have a dinky rep thread with 2 reps. But I have been playing cs for 2 months now and am like 1 week new to paypal.
asshat: nah the question is, how can i make you trust me to go first
asshat: because why are u going first
asshat: to middleman?
asshat: doesnt make sense
torg: I do not understand.
asshat: if we trade with steamrep middleman, who sends first?
asshat: the item or the money?
asshat: u send the item first to the middleman right?
torg: you can go first as long as the middle man has it
torg: * I
asshat: so this is irrelevant to the trade, but i will tell u how middleman service is flawed
asshat: from personal experience
torg: I have never traded through middle man.
torg: I just know that it is safer
asshat: so i was buying a knife one time
asshat: guy seems reputable
asshat: sends knife to mm
asshat: i gave money to him
asshat: then he tells MM that he received no payment
asshat: and made fake pp acc
asshat: showing no payment
asshat: but luckily, i recorded everything and SS
asshat: and the MM took couple hours
asshat: to review evidence
asshat: middleman easy to impersonate
torg: Right
asshat: middleman not THAT hard to fool
asshat: so yea, thats what im saying
torg: well
asshat: i call ppl who get middleman scammed
torg: I could skype screenshare
asshat: "dumb"
torg: I ahve a mic
asshat: since a trade is between two people am i right?
torg: Correct
asshat: why get a 3rd party involved
asshat: who has control over item
torg: ok
asshat: i have dealt with pp for almost 2 years now
asshat: so know how system works
torg: I have had steam for 2 years
asshat: only go first to admins
asshat: yea but i can tell that either u are
asshat: 1. not serious about this deal
asshat: 2. want to scam for easy money
asshat: 3. new to paypal transactions
asshat: i have bought more expensive knives than yours and dealt with more expensive items and backpacks
asshat: so i havent scammed them, so why do i start with u
asshat: never have refunded them
asshat: so dont expect me to start
torg: ok. I am serious about trading away my knives for paypal. I am imature in general. I have done two paypal trades in my life, both under 30$
torg: and I have had my steam for 2 years and been trading tf2 since two months ago
torg: when I started playing cs and converted
torg: now I am looking to cash out a knife so I can be more productive irl
asshat: yea, i have played cs. for around 2 years now
torg: My rank is silver 2.
asshat: i am master guardian if u know what that means
torg: That should explain stuff
torg: lol
asshat: i work off paypal cus thats how the most profit i get is from
torg: So what does this come to. I understand you are very experienced and know every trick in the bick etf
asshat: so i can always upgrade and buy knives
torg: book*
torg: So what do we do now?
torg: I just go first
torg: ?
asshat: well my point, is that i dont find enough reason
asshat: for me to go first
asshat: like can u imagine my perspective?
torg: Yeah I can
asshat: would u pay money to a person who just said to send payment first
torg: why would you trade with some flaky 10 year old steam scrub
asshat: as friends and family
asshat: and write a note pee poo
asshat: to be honest
asshat: i dont care who im trading to
asshat: dont care who and where u are from
asshat: im looking for knives and im looking to turn profit
torg: I got that
asshat: its very easy to understand if u see from my perspective
asshat: i know that u were not serious in the beginning
torg: I understand from your perspective.
asshat: but believe u are serious
torg: I am serious now
asshat: and more sincere now
torg: Correct
asshat: so the way to build up a positive vibe thru a couple years
asshat: is not to be rude
asshat: and offend other traders
asshat: who have given u no reason to be rude to
torg: That was not the intention at all.
asshat: i have done that over the years to paypal traders, gotten respect, and they have gone first
asshat: with successful transactions
asshat: u can check me out on csgolounge
asshat: u may be proliferous in tf2
torg: 20 rep
asshat: but csgo is my field of interest
asshat: i do not know half a thing about tf2
asshat: but have experience in csgo
torg: Kind of the opposite for me
asshat: so if a person wants to sell 100 tf2 keys to u, and he is a complete beginner
asshat: would u pay him first
asshat: as friends and family
asshat: and no refunds
torg: nope
torg: I am just concerned because this is a large amount of money.
torg: however I trust you now
asshat: do u know how paypal works tho
asshat: there are various forms of payments
asshat: i can show u how it works
torg: I know the basics
asshat: i checked ur inv, and would buy only knives and that sawed off serenity
asshat: other skins arent that appealing
asshat: rbh
asshat: to be honest
asshat: or maybe keys
asshat: i buy keys
torg: Ok, what does that have to do with anything
asshat: for 1.8 usd
asshat: would u sell
torg: I cant sell my keys sorry
asshat: for that price?
torg: ^
asshat: or your awp
asshat: i can try buying that first
asshat: 12 dollars?
torg: I can sell most items however. Some of my items are being brokered for friends. I have been brokering for like a year
torg: uh
torg: sure
torg: that would be a good way to gain trust
torg: from you
torg: I can go first
asshat: ok,
asshat: email?
torg: [email protected]
asshat: [email protected]
asshat: 12 usd
asshat: agree?
torg: [email protected]
torg: yes
asshat has accepted your request to trade.
asshat: yes
asshat: for safety reasons
asshat: i need to do that
torg: As well as getting money I am learning
torg: thank you
asshat: ok, can u verify the trade
asshat: with your email please
torg: done
torg: and now you send
asshat: yes
asshat: the payment is instant
torg: and it has apeared
asshat: u should get an increase
asshat: of 12 usd
asshat: in your balance
asshat: am i correct?
torg: yes from richard. great.
asshat: i sent to u andrew
asshat: thats your name
asshat: correct?
torg: right
torg: yay. Now we have to take on the knife
asshat: ok
asshat: it was 670 usd
torg: God I am really scared
torg: correct
asshat: we can do bayo fade as well
asshat: but i dont see SS yet
torg: I'd like to keep one knife
asshat: ok
asshat: that is perfectly fine with me
asshat: i will send to same email
asshat: and please do the same process
asshat: with the trade window
torg: gosh
asshat has accepted your request to trade.
torg: I am quite nervous
torg: You better do this or it will be the end of the world for me.
asshat: note please
torg: I am givign this to asshat
torg: for 670 usd
asshat: ok
torg: 3rd party
torg: *taking screenshot*
torg: Ok, here we go.
torg: Error
You have accepted the trade request from asshat.
asshat: same process
torg: giving knife to asshat
torg: for 670 usd
torg: error
torg: send me a trade offer
asshat: alright thats fine
torg: Sorry!
An error was encountered while processing your request:

There was an error retrieving trade offers
Return to torg's profile
torg: steam is quite buggy currently
asshat: yea
torg: it doesnt work in browser also
asshat: just to let u know, i can not send the payment
asshat: until i get the knife
asshat: if u understand
asshat: i have payment ready for [email protected]
tho
torg: yeah
torg: everything ready
torg: ok
asshat: u cant send me item?
asshat: from steam offer?
torg: it is still error
asshat: where did u get the knife?
torg: I bought it for a bayonet doppler fn and a gut knife urban masked ft
asshat: trade or bought?
torg: I traded it to my friend for 3 weeks while I was on vacation
torg: and recieved it yesterd
torg: traed
torg: my offers work
asshat: sometimes if item is transacted in an illegal manner
asshat: it has problems with steam
torg: what does that mean?
asshat: i tell u later
asshat: but i send u a trade offer
asshat: if u see it
torg: Tell me now
asshat: well i was trading with russian one time
asshat: he had csgo gifts
asshat: items
asshat: keys
asshat: and all
asshat: i wanted to buy, but they couldnt be traded out of inventory, turned out he got with fake credit card
asshat: or stolen
torg: oh
asshat: so i was scared, knife was same
torg: I have only associated a credit card once with this account'
torg: 2 years ago, buying tf2
asshat: yes, did u happen to see my steam offer?
torg: yes
torg: email confirmation now
torg: you MUST send the money
asshat: yes, thank you,
asshat: i will
torg: promise?
asshat: yes
torg: ok
torg: I am selling this knife to asshat for 670 usd
asshat: deal
torg: you must send it
torg: going right now
torg: DONE
torg: send it now
torg: im recording
torg: I havent recieved
asshat: one moment
asshat: verifying and processing
torg: What do you mean
torg: 670 usd
asshat: yes
torg: Please send now
asshat: ok one moment
torg: you MUST send
asshat: please wait, i can not send
asshat: and type
asshat: that fast
torg: then send
torg: Why havent you sent the money
torg: have you scammed me?
torg: YOU SCAMMED ME
torg: YOU DONT HAVE MY KNIFE
asshat: no
asshat: i sent payment
torg: NO YOU DIDNT
torg: YOU SCAMMED ME
torg: YOU SENT AN INVOICE
torg: THATS A SCAM
asshat: check your paypal
torg: NO
torg: THATS AN INVOICE
torg: WHAT THE f✿✿✿ BRO
asshat: it says it will process
asshat: after a week
torg: THATS BULLSHIT
asshat: due to a large payment
torg: WHAT THE *bleep*
asshat has declined your trade request.
torg: ANSWER ME NOW
torg: You scammer
asshat: i think it is because u are unverified
torg: I am going to kill you
torg: im verified
torg: you dont know s✿✿✿ abuot paypa
asshat: do not be immature please
torg: tahts all bullshit
asshat did not respond to the trade request.
torg: Why did I trust you
asshat is now Offline.

Please disregard offensive/immature language.

ON TO THE LINKS I LUCKILY TOOK DURING THE TRADE
Proof of chat, trade and a glimpse of paypal history: http://i.imgur.com/tVSp12X.png
http://i.imgur.com/o8dNI2L.png

yahoo mail, trade confirmation proof: http://i.imgur.com/R1tkeRA.png?1
steam trade confirmation proof: http://i.imgur.com/i3Ol4OK.png?1

Chat proof, paypal history proof (before he sent invoice, after I traded knife)
http://i.imgur.com/Z1oXm7P.png

current paypal history (proof of invoice)
http://i.imgur.com/Hzd9aDw.png?2?1641

steam backpack history
http://i.imgur.com/XkMjgAe.png?1

☛☛☛☛☛DETAILED DESCRIPTION☚☚☚☚☚
Asshat adds me to trade paypal. I notice he has expensive items, good profile rep, high steam level, screenshots, games and friends. We negotiate a price then I tell him to go first and send a stupid message which you can't (my mistake) He begins to rant about how he is trustworthy and I am not. This all seemed quite legit and I was convinced after a small while to go first. He wanted to buy my Awp corticera additionally, so did that ahead so I could gain his trust. He sent me the money we agreed on and everything went fine. This explains the 12$ transaction with "richard davis" that occured before the invoice which he sent to me after I traded away my knife. Also, instantly he traded my knife and every other expensive item in is inventory away probably to an alt after I gave him my knife.

My knife was a stattrak butterfly knife slaughter minimal wear. Chat, email trade confirmation, paypal balance and trade history proof will be provided above.

If there is any unclear evidence please post below. I hope to get this user banned so he can not scam and trick others as he did to me. I have accepted the fact that it is unlikely I can receive my knife back. Thank you for all your help.


(My entire evidence column did not work out as planned - luckily I copied everything. Here is my evidence)

Please re-upload your trade history screenshot in full and uncropped with the URL bar included.

http://i.imgur.com/CZORyHk.png?1

(Noncropped trade history)

He just chargebacked the 12$ he sent for my awp before we traded. Maybe this deserves a separate report.... Also the invoice was canceled.

http://i.imgur.com/AQeRG0R.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/rS6XCQB.png?1
http://i.imgur.com/sklKPe1.jpg?2 (email)

Thanks for the uploads, evidence should be sufficient. Hopefully a staff member will review your report soon.

Hello Steamrep moderators and admins,

I have just recently stumbled upon this steamrep report of a suspected paypal scam attempt, and I can assure you that these are false accusations and provide evidence that the trade between the parties of asshat (me) and torgy did not happen what so ever. I will now provide a detailed account of the situation that happened on march 5th, 2014. So I found this guy on csgolounge.com with exactly 0 rep and around 660 messages, but I saw his profile and it seemed legit with lots of trades and market transactions. It seemed like he was reputable on his profile with good tf2 trades and a decent inventory with 2 knives. I proceeded in negotiating a deal for his stat trak slaughter minimal wear. It seemed like he was unsure about the worth of the knife and is pretty new to the csgo trading prices. It went from like 800 usd to 650 usd which is a huge discrepancy. We discussed the payment method which he wanted paypal as payment which was perfectly fine with me since I DID buy and sell over 20 knives using paypal. I refuse to go first unless it is the likes of steamrep admins and csgorep admins, but most of them do not buy items anymore or at least buy knives for like 60% which is too low for me. So this 10 year old decides to "troll" me very hard by telling me to put "pee poopoo penis" on the note for the paypal transaction. This is an assumption but with a lack of base, but I am predicting that this 10 year old kid scammed a knife from another member of the csgo community and wants to make money by selling it to me. Also, I want to point out a couple of "mistakes" he made in trying to report me and trying to give me a bad reputation. First, this kid did not include all of the chat. We chatted for around 2-3 hours. He made many more immature statements like a series of rude and uncalled for comments about me and just random statements immature 10 year olds make when they do not get what they want. So he had vintage cobra on his list which is a popular steam rep MM. He also deleted comments about how he wanted to use that MM. I called him out since I am experienced with those scams and questioned why there was a private profile vintage cobra profile on his friends list. He made up an excuse that it was a random add and deleted that profile immediately. Also this kid has some good fake evidence which is VERY impressive for his language standards. I am 100% confident this kid has multiple smurfs, and accounts on his control and is very good at trying to impersonate me. However, I want to point out a feel "fails" for his attempt. First off, I entered steam on December 26, 2014. I also have a level of steam level 23, not 20. (Lvl up your smurf more next time). I can prove somehow or you can ask my friends that I have been level 23 since January 2014. I have Hammy already as a friend, so if there are any questions about this transaction or non transactions between these two parties, feel free to contact me. He also added the trade SO many times and deleted right after so that he can screenshot which was VERY suspicious. He kept saying "lag" and said he is verifying with his email which should have only took one try. BUT it took him a bunch of failed efforts. So at that point, I just called him a scammer and accused him of faking a shipment of items. In addition to the hidden comments NOT provided by this torgy kid, was the threats made to me and my trading reputation as well as immature threats to my family with a LOT of immature and uncalled for offensive language which prompted an automatic block with NO trade. I can add him as well as talk to SR admins with it IF he agrees to not use such language. I am pending all my current paypal transaction until this issue is resolved, so please let me know. Unfortunately, I could not locate the account where that knife has been traded off to, so if you guys have an item tracker or something like that. Please do track where it is and I can assure you that it is on one of torgys smurf accounts. Any questions about the real account of the trade? I can testify any statement and accusations that this torgy kid makes. Thank you.

Best Regards.

I've gotten scammed by the accused person earlier, but I have not reported it since it was only about €10. Yes, do not believe what s3xmonsta is saying. He is a scammer and deserves to be banned. Thanks.

hey spoderman2,
Which item did i "scam" from you? Please let me know so I can recall, I have not traded anything since march 6th! Let me know and I can see what there is to do. Might have been an imposter since I only buy knives and high tier skins! and nothing it 10 euros that I buy Please add me and let me know. If torgy added you or is your friend or paid you to write a comment... I am disappointed in you, this is a rep based group and you should be honest. Why would you want these group of people to run the trading community, they already have so many alt accounts and such... How do YOU feel if u lose your item or get accused of scamming... Basically they MAKE you go first in cash trades or else they report the s✿✿✿ out of you. Can you please rethink your options and tell the truth, Thanks!

So..... I added and talked to this Jab guy aka Spoderman2 above who "reported" me for stealing his "10 euro" item. He says he DOESNT know who spoderman2 is. (LOL?) I did my research of who this spoderman 2 guy is. Turns out, he IS Jab, click his name and look at the steam id and where it leads to. You can not fake a steam id. So basically he is a level 2 guy, who gets paid to report people.... part of a scamming group or something that backs up scammers on steamrep. You can see all the steamrep posts he comments on just by clicking his profile and clicking on postings. Why cant we ban "trolls" or scammers like these on steamrep? Cobalt, you have actually been addressed by him, and also addressed him a few times by the alleged scam case. He is technically not scamming people by stealing their items, but making FALSE accusations in an attempt to help scammers get away and perform their motives.... Basically scammers nowadays are saying in paraphrase: "You go first, you send the item/money... they get what they want.... the scam..... and then they say, if you report me, i will tell my group of scammers to report the s✿✿✿ out of you and make sure you get a bad rep so you will not trade again.. so do NOT report and just deal with the loss" Steamrep admins and mods... i am sure you know how steamrep works and you can find that jab is directly related to spoderman2 and was paid by torgy to do the dirty work.. please dont let scammers and their "friends" run steamrep. Thanks.

There are a large amount of errors in your statement - I was firm on my price the entire time. I have never scammed and I am happy to defend any claim of me scamming. We chatted for about 1 hour on march 5th from 9:30-10:30 where I traded my knife at 10:38pm exactly. This is the entire chat, and I have proof - I didn't edit it at all. I read the entire chat also and there were no rude remarks toward you and your family (?). I have no Idea who vintage cobra is(?). I did ignore your friend request because your backpack showed up as friends only ("asshat has 0 items in his inventory"). Then you posted on my lounge trade, I checked your backpack - it worked and I accepted. Fake evidence? Language standards? Multiple smurfs/alts? Impersonation? Steam level? Who is hammy? Yes, each time we joined trade it lagged out and wouldn't work so I told you to send a trade offer, which worked. You called me a scammer? Shipping items? Threats toward your family? What?

Your comments have left me utterly confused. I can assure and prove everything is true that I have written. Also, who is s3xmonsta? Asshat is the one who scammed me. Also who is spoderman - if asshat scammed you also please create a seperate report and don't spam mine.
I am free to answer any questions and prove all of my information true. Thanks again, -confused torgy

Who the fck is spoderman2 and why is he commenting on this post... and why is he agreeing to everything torg says. I already confirmed spoderman=Jab but he is too scared to admit his steam account and name for some reason. If you make accusations, why are you scared to reveal who u are spoderman2. Link me your steam profile, I am happy to resolve any issue. To be honest, spoderman2 is probably another one of torgs accounts....Torg/spoderman2 did not technically scam me, they just shark and try to use the leverage of having a scam/report group to make you do what they want. I have been trading for couple years now, I know the general scammers, I will tell you in chat who they are since they have tried their "tricks" on me. I saw that Frederickk was torgs friend so they might be linked? Not confirmed yet. And i just dont get why you guys feel good about ruining peoples rep, you can see all of the reports spoderman2 makes. Those are just to troll people and fck them over. None of them has been accepted since they were probably NOT true. Like who would still use paypal if they were scammed 12 times.....10 year olds on steam trading. I have bought and sold 20ish knives more or less using paypal over a span of well over a year. Can confirm if needed. And also.... 10 euro items not even worth buying on paypal for me -___- I would have just bought it on the market. Who are you and who do you think you are? Added you on steam and you dont even know your name on steamrep. OR he is a poser with fake steam id linked. Admin can you investigate please?

Lol, neither I have any idea who Spoderman is and who is Fredrick??? Please stop accusing me of scamming. You obviously scammed me, you took my item (trade history proof) sent and invoice AND cashed back the money for my awp. All evidence points towards you scamming. You have already stole 700$ from me and now you are trying to save your account from being banned. Please stop spamming my thread with useless BS and let the steamrep admins deal with this case.

yea spoderman, can you leave please. If you were serious, it must have been an imposter who linked you my csgolounge profile and my steam profile. I 100% guarantee I have not talked to you before, I added you and there were no previous messages. If there are confusions, I have you added on my account if you are online again. And torg, stop faking evidence.. your friends helping you edit comments? Yes, we talked about the trade, yes i was the user you were talking to. But you have made edits. You can just copy and write whatever u want with the same format. I would have screenshotted the proof but we deleted each other too quickly and can not see the steam messages anymore. And also, I have no worries of getting banned from steam, did not receive item=no ban. Have been around doing paypal trades for a long time, all trades successful. I suspect torg of working with scammers since I report scammers and call them out for fake rep and fake middleman on friends list. I threatened to report a guy for attempted trade scam since I had solid evidence that he was using a fake middleman profile and gathered up all his alt accounts, this is probably revenge on getting me trade banned and losing credibility. And torg, you are a 10 year old, do not tell me what to do and YOU can leave this thread, very much my issue as it is yours, got it? If you are 10, how did you have the money to get a knife?? Probably scammer group friend loaned to him to scam people or something, highly certain not even his personal item. If you can find the item, that would be great.... I would prove to you he is torgs buddy. those knives do not sell on the market, so tracking shouldn't be as bad. And yea, steamrep admins, you can personally add me, and i will explain in FURTHER detail. These kids should not run the community. I am NOT accusing torg of scamming, i am only saying he is reporting with ill intent of a reputable trader for his personal motives. To be honest, If i were scammed that much money, I would be pleading my case to STEAM support and trying to get my knife back and yea... not being FAKE and trying to make stuff up on a reputation based website. You really have none. current csgolounge profile says -2 rep and steam lvl 20. profile says level 26, 170 hours on csgo with 100+ comments, lol? This is not that important, but i may be on to something... This guy is silver 2 on his account, saying something about his maturity?? I am master guardian 1 on mine currently, was a little higher but thats not important I guess. Im just saying, it takes a lot of character to be that low, and torg definitely shows it. You can try ruining my rep, but at the end of the day, just look at yourself and see if you are gaining anything really in reporting me. Not worried at all about getting banned, but reputation is more important to me. Also, on a side note, i saw that spoderman2 uses a repboost group.... wtf? why do u need fake reps if you can trade and get real ones.... so sketchy. Admins, the case is ready for review! Thank you for your time. I guess I apologize on behalf on me and torg... this case is a joke. Should not have even added and talked to fishy kid. Started by telling me to write immature comments like "poopy peepee penis" on a paypal note ......Thanks.

So "Spoderman 2" I have a bunch of answers I bet you cant answer
1. What is your steam profile, I know you are jab and have your steam id... unless you are too noob and dont know how steam id works, you can not really deny WHO u are..
Steam:76561198131199090
2. Why did you deny that you do not not who or what spoderman is when I added you. Too afraid to show who u are?
3. I added a kid who commented on why I emptied my valuables. Arent you that kid... I emptied it because I have been getting around 3-4 daily adds even when i dont have posts on csgolounge since ***** like spoderman2 and their bots and private profiles keep adding me and trying to scam..
4. Why are you boosting your rep in a rep boost group, get real ones.
5. I like how you are just here like a bit*h to just agree with torg, pays well huh? You don't answer questions about yourself what so ever
6. Name and screenshot ANY communication we have with the time stamp. Go to trade history and just screenshot. You know if you have another piece of evidence, that would be solid. You have NOTHING. We both know we have never talked or traded before...
7. 14 friends, not that hard to track down your alt account bro... https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198150832042 LOL trade banned man? sucks to hear. Gotta mess with people rep cus I reported you before or something?
*** FIRM evidence
http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/...ike-global-offensive-items.92425/#post-258024
So Rambo=you or your very good buddy. You have reported Fratzia, even says on Rambos profile that "Fratzia is a scammer" will provide screenshots later. So it is funny how fratzia not trade banned but Rambo is LOL. I LOVE how TORG, JUG (aka spoderman2), and RAMBO uses the same report format of having text logs which you can easily edit. I like how spoderman2 is always the one who is a "3rd party" trying to convince people of scamming...
Spoderman 2: Cobalt and all other staff members, please stop with that bullshit. This guy is a scammer and deserves a ban. And you can clearly see the chat. Whats the problem?
LOL so evidence, much pro. Report was denied due to lack of evidence by the way.
So steamrep admin, i am not sure if these guys are friends or the same person or what not, but this is ridiculous how we should not ban spoderman2 and company. Rambo already valve banned, why not steamrep ban him for life as well as his allies torg and spoderman. Again, they did not scam me and not 100% sure they scam for virtual items, but they definitely impersonate to ruin the rep of traders. spoderman 2 has yet presented a piece of evidence and i would like to see him post an unedited, unphotoshopped, no impersonation profile, evidence of me "scamming" him. Sorry for the lengthy reports I have been writing. I really want you guys to have all the information and good evidence and logic. I have solid reasoning and will screenshot everything I find. Due to the haste deletion of torg, I have not been able to recover too much evidence but I will try my best, Thanks.

more on "rambo" who might be these guy's alt, he is already trade banned, hopefully steamrep banned. is it possible to steamrep ban them and link their accounts like how I see for some users?
Funny how he is doing "middleman"services.
I like how torg is selling with paypal too and doesnt have much, can provide his csgolounge profile, they have the same terms and conditions. Sigh.. these kids scammed bayonet fade, bfk fade, huntsman cw. awp asiimov. Those are in rambos inventory. Spoderman 2 a very du*b kid, he will probably unfriend himself/his friend just because of this. I am calling this move right now. They will also change inventories to another alt account. For sure they have more than 3. Already got 3 accounts linked so yea! Got anything left to say spoderman? Please type more. I know it is hard for 10 year olds who scam before they know how to read to do this, but please try.

Also steamrep admins, can you please not impersonator of Penguin the fluffy: http://steamcommunity.com/id/biOnicGucci on torgs account? might be an aid or his alt to help these guy scam since torg was insistent on middleman. Also please not taxidriver on torgs list. Private profile but banned. Not sufficient evidence as of now. Will update. Shouldnt it be unacceptable just to copy and paste a steamreps admins info without consent and impersonating? Please do not try to alter evidence by just deleting him. You have already changed your name but steam id is same! Thank you We can see name edits too, jab has called himself spoderman LOL

additional evidence, will just keep finding more and more, 99% sure Rambo and Jab/spoderman2 same person. They have almost identical terms and conditions. Who even uses that similar of words. Do not think it is a coincidence! Check it out. You be the judge!

finally got him to admit who he is and that i have not scammed him.......spoderman2 aka JAB. conclusive evidence, cant get any more real than this.

First part is the description on Rambos profile. Just another chat screenshot!