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Archived Report: 76561198153417214 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items)

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  1. timot195

    timot195 New User

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    Scam Report

    Report Type: [Other] Any other fraudulent behavior
    Virtual item type involved: [TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items

    Accused profile: 76561198153417214

    Victim profile: 76561198071208693

    What happened? Description:
    To make it simple, I basically offered him a job if he could broker for me. We were friends for like 6 days, he helped me alot, told me and guided me on how to sell Unusuals properly. What made me trust him was he was gonna give me free Scout cosmetics but I declined it because he needs it more than I do. We met on a trade vatican server and I was trying to sell my Unusual Vintage Merryweather (Bubbling) but sold it to someone and I kept him on my friendlist because he was offering me some keys for it but I declined. That's where we basically became friends.

    Anyways, I offered him a job where I could basically give him 10% of the profit of our sells on the Unusual. He usually returns the Unusual to me when he goes offline because our Terms of Service is that he NEEDS to give it back to me just incase whenever he goes offline. He followed this ToS but after I give it back to him so he could sell it for me, he blocked me afterwards I told him I was gonna go to the barber. I didn't even realize he blocked me because I though it was just a bug where friends appear online on their profile page but not on friendlist. I kept spamming him messages, no replies. I even called out 2 of my friends, KeemScarce and ultimate grandpa (you can chat with em for proofs of their chat conversation with the scammer) to infiltrate for me and chat with the dude to ask if he could unblock me, and he sent me this message:

    "He gave me his unusual, all I told him kn our last chat was a guy was interested in his unusual and I told him I could sell it which wasnt a lie, he sent an offer and I accepted it, there were no terms set, He knew what the trade would conclude, it is not a scam since I havent offerd anything in return and he knew it."

    I could give screenshot of this conversation but my friend, 'ultimate grandpa' closed the chat conversation on Steam client after I requested him if he could screenshot the chat conversation with him.

    You'll see the conversation on the proofs/evidences I'll be giving. The screenshot starts with Bigster saying 'hey btw could you drop me a +rep on bp.tf?'. Reason why he said this is because I was calling him to broker for me, he told me to give him +rep, and I did give him +rep. BUT after getting away with my unusual, I changed my positive rep to a negative rep or negative review on his bp.tf so yeah.

    Now the trade history, it'll show that I bought someone's Unusual Polar Bear for keys pure. On that screenshot alone, it'll also show when I gave him my unusual to broker for me. Next screenshot will be when he gives the Unusual back to me, showing he's not running away with my Unusual just yet, but afterwards he called out to me that someone's buying the Unusual so I gave him my Unusual and after waiting a few hours, I checked his inventory and he hasn't sold it yet then blocked me.

    (PS. I couldn't screenshot full chat log via computer because chat history is gone. The only chat history that isn't fully removed yet is on my phone. We had a long chat, and the other half where we first talked couldn't be seen anymore because of long chat)

    If the story is a mess, I could organize it if you couldn't understand it. I'm just so tired right now.

    By the way, if you checked fraud's profile you'll notice he made his profile private. This could be a sign that he is guilty. I'm not sure if this will be temporary but by the time I'm wring this, it's private as of now.

    https://puu.sh/zB3J4/3e55cc4475.png

    Provide Evidence:

    https://imgur.com/a/jwNk1

    The attachment only contains 15 screenshots in order, but I'm only limited to posting 15 attachments so I uploaded the whole conversation on imgur.

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  2. Bigster | trade.tf

    Bigster | trade.tf New User

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    Why is this here, you sent me a trade offer where you put in your unusual with me giving you nothing in return. I havent promised anything outside the trade, please provide proof for the statements you have made.
  3. a Gentleman

    a Gentleman Partner Community Donator - Tier V

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    Hello timot195,

    The evidence you've uploaded in Report: 76561198153417214 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items) is not conclusive enough for the report to proceed.
    Please review SteamRep's Submission Fundamentals.

    As of right now you are missing:
    - a screenshot of the initial agreement
    - a screenshot of your trade history (see below)

    In order to process this report. We will need your Steam trade history during the period that this incident occurred in.
    To proceed, please make sure that you have your Steam URL address bar available in the Steam Client.

    To enable the address bar, follow these instructions:
    1. Open the Steam Browser by double clicking the steam icon in the tray in lower right corner of your screen.
    2. On top left, open menu "Steam" and select "Settings".
    3. On the new Settings dialog box, select "Settings" and check the box that says "Display Steam URL address bar when available".

    Now, we require that you upload screenshots of your trade history as a reply to this thread.

    Follow these instructions to upload actionable evidence:
    1. Head to your Steam trade history.
    2. Find the page that the relevant trade is located on.
    3. Take a screenshot of your trade history following the requirements listed below.

    Requirements of the screenshot(s):
    - Exclude the Login name and steam wallet amount that is on the very top right.
    - Show the Steam URL in top left.
    - Show the Nickname in top middle.
    - Show the Steam window fully from left side to the right side of the window.
    - Show the bottom of the steam browser window.
    - You must use the default Steam skin.
    - You may not edit or alter the screenshot in any way.


    Please upload the required evidence. Thank you.

    Best,
    Gentleman
  4. timot195

    timot195 New User

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    Greetings!

    Apparently, I DID do the following before you replied. If you haven't seen it, it's on the "Provide Evidence" section of my post.

    If you can't still see it, here:
    https://imgur.com/a/jwNk1

    https://puu.sh/zB3wK/a6f79eedc0.png (PART 1 of TRADE HISTORY)
    https://puu.sh/zB3xy/0d6bbfa3dc.png (PART 2)

    SCAMMERS BP.TF Unusual HISTORY:

    https://backpack.tf/item/6481501383

    UNUSUAL LAST SEEN ON MY BP:
    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198071208693?time=1520035200


    Also, I have an objection for Bigster's latest post on this thread. He's declining that we had no terms of service when I asked him to broker for me. The terms of service of the job is that he MUST return the item he's brokering at all times he goes offline and that is the most important of our ToS. I mentioned that rule to him only ONCE on our conversation. And what is my evidence that he is declining that I had no Terms of Service settled?

    This is common sense, look at the Part 2 Trade History screenshot. Does anyone even get and return an unusual for no reason? He is clearly following the rules I settled, but after I gave the Unusual to him the 2nd time, it shows that that is the last trade I've ever done because he stole my Unusual with the declination of our agreement.

    As for the proofs of me settling a Terms of Service to him, I cannot provide a screenshot for it anymore because like what I said in the post, it was filled with ridiculous jokes of Bigster's appreciation that he does appreciate me when behind my back it's an image of a liar, and a thief.
  5. a Gentleman

    a Gentleman Partner Community Donator - Tier V

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    Hello timot195,

    Please upload all evidence related to Report: 76561198153417214 - ([TF2] Team Fortress 2 Items) directly to this thread.
    This is done so that we can ensure the longevity of the evidence presented.

    In the future, please do not link imgur/gyazo/prntscrn screenshots for your reports.

    Best,
    Gentleman
  6. a Gentleman

    a Gentleman Partner Community Donator - Tier V

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    You're going to somehow have to find a copy wherein the two of you agree to the brokering terms of service that you have purported the accused has broken.
  7. timot195

    timot195 New User

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    Sadly I can't because I already said on my posts multiple times that our brokering term's of service was settled just days ago, but we had a long chat making it impossible to retrieve the required, and when a chat is long it deletes the old chat history and makes a new one.

    If I have to do something to get this post to get accepted, I will try my best to see if I could fix my chat history that shows acceptance of the terms of service.
  8. timot195

    timot195 New User

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    I also said this on the other last post, do you think I would just give the Unusual to him and he returns it to me for no reason? This shows that WE did have a terms of service agreement.
  9. a Gentleman

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    My requests still stand. You have completed none of them.

    Hello timot195,

    You have seven days to produce the information requested.
    If no evidence is presented within this time frame, the report will be marked as invalid.

    Best,
    Gentleman
  10. timot195

    timot195 New User

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    I got no evidences of our terms of agreement. There's no chances of me getting it, so you might aswell close this report because the suspect gave me my 7 keys back and I had 10 keys back then. 7 keys is enough for me so I'm 100% sure I wanna request to close this report down.
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    Archiving.
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